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Invitation to race a GTP

Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:17 PM
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Invitation to race a GTP

In light of recent posts, I would like to see how a moded maxima could do against my moded GTP.

I usually race at Savannah Dragway on Wednesdays for test and tune, but I will be at Commerce (near Atlanta) sometime within the next 4 weeks.

Rules are simple, run what you brung, and loser has to make a post on their respective forum giving brief explination of race and outcome. Will also consider side bets for beer.

Here's all my performance mods:

3.25" SC Pulley, Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator, Custom intake, Custom Exhaust, Reprogrammed PCM, 160 stat, NGK TR55IX Plugs, MSD Wires.

If you would be interested, just reply to this post. Not sure on exact date I will be going to commerce, but will give a week heads up and will pry be joined by a few members of the Georgia Grand Prix Club.

Adam
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:20 PM
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id race you for slips fool but im up in canada.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:21 PM
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Are you auto or manual
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:24 PM
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GTP's only come in auto!
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by pawn
GTP's only come in auto!


Only automagic huh?? I'd love to see a supercharged 5spd max rape one of them. I don't think they know what they are getting into. The only fair fight would be against an auto max. Actually I think it would be a waste of any SC'ed max's time.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by Craig Mack




Only automagic huh?? I'd love to see a supercharged 5spd max rape one of them. I don't think they know what they are getting into. The only fair fight would be against an auto max. Actually I think it would be a waste of any SC'ed max's time.

YUP!

they think there all bad trying to pick on a N/A max....haha...either they need to take their S/c's off......or race a S/c'd max.....

what would be the outcome of either situation????

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Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:33 PM
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hmmmm

My ranted in my first reaction because there is some dumbass claiming to own a GTP talking smack.. I overreacted and figured you're here to do the same since you guys posted at the same time out of no where... my bad. I don't see any stupid comments in your post.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:34 PM
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Craig, I see you're from FL. I'm a member of the North Florida Grand Prix Club which is based out of Jacksonville, and when I get down there the club usually goes to Jacksonville Dragway on Sat. for midnight drags (midnight to 4 am). If you or anyone else from North Florida are interested, I'll post when I'm heading down there to race next, but it pry won't be for a while.

Adam
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:37 PM
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I'm guessing he has a 13.5 car so we should send in Don so that its auto vs. auto competition :-)
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by SavannahGTP
Craig, I see you're from FL. I'm a member of the North Florida Grand Prix Club which is based out of Jacksonville, and when I get down there the club usually goes to Jacksonville Dragway on Sat. for midnight drags (midnight to 4 am). If you or anyone else from North Florida are interested, I'll post when I'm heading down there to race next, but it pry won't be for a while.

Adam
Yup, I live in central florida, about 2 hours away from Jax. Actually was born their. I'm goin' up in a while to meet someone for a transmission conversion, so maybe

Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by theblue
I'm guessing he has a 13.5 car so we should send in Don so that its auto vs. auto competition :-)
You know damn well Don would destroy him along with any other car their....12 seconds...

Don is amazing
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:42 PM
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to be fair for the GTP, I think the Max should play fair and not use blue bottle! Or if any, blast a 100shot???
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:43 PM
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Let's at least give credit to SavannahGTP. He seems a lot mroe mature than ydrsbtr97. He posted his mods and gave a friendly invitation, not a moronic challenge like ydrsbtr97.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by clee130
Let's at least give credit to SavannahGTP. He seems a lot mroe mature than ydrsbtr97. He posted his mods and gave a friendly invitation, not a moronic challenge like ydrsbtr97.
Yup
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:50 PM
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Like I have said before the GTP hides behind its S/C you take that away and what you have is a car that wont even beat a 91 civic dx...haha...But anyways I wish you were in Cali. I know a certain N/A*Clears throat* that would tear you to pieces. And I dont think we should let Don pound the hell out of that thing waste of time since he is in Texas besides didnt he just hit high 11's?
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 05:58 PM
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It has massive power, but 0-60 was 8 seconds.

That thing is just as large as the LS430.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 06:06 PM
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Yeah 8 seconds isnt too impressive.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 06:07 PM
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gtp's are dope. this guy is just asking if someone wants to race. whats wrong with that?
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 06:13 PM
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GTP's do not run 0-60 in 8 seconds. They run 6.7-7.0. I have seen a stock GTP run 14.5 (but he never matched it again). They usually run low 15's to high 14's stock.

Their auto tranny is a weak point as is their top end. When you compare a GTP only going to 12x (limited) vs a Max doing 145-150, its over.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 07:31 PM
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I'll just give my opinions on the GTP vs maxima match-up. A lot of people dwell on the fact that I have a S/C and that a S/C maxima would destory me. There is pry a lot of truth in that because to be honest the Eaton supercharger on our cars aren't nearly as impressive as available aftermarket SC kits. This is mainly due to the inefficiency of our root style superchargers and the inability for us to cool down the charged air with an aftercooler like many aftermarket kits. Many aftermarket SC kits will give gains of well over 120 hp, but the Eaton supercharger on my car only produces an extra 40 hp (assuming stock pulley size) over an otherwise naturally aspirated Grandprix. There are many NA grandprix owners that are running as fast as stock GTP's because a 40 hp deficit really isn't that much to overcome if you have the money and desire. Putting on the smaller pulley is the best bang for the buck mod for our car. I'm running a pulley that gives me about 30 extra hp (crank hp), but without the ability to cool that charge air, I have to rely on my exhaust work and cooling methods to maximize the power. The Grandprix has 3 main things against it. First it's heavy, second it's an automatic, and third it's FWD and with these cars being so high in Torque, it makes launching them extremely difficult.

I have beaten some fast cars, and would like to see what some other moded "daily drivers" can do. I enjoy racing and consider myself a car enthusiest. Many replies in this post and others are weak because the people that write then have pry beat a stock GTP with a moded Maxima. Not too tough when the cars are so close to performance stock. I know there are many Maxima owners out there that don't hide behind their computers, road and track stats or stickers, and those are the people that I would like to race.

I think the Maxima and Grandprix are both nice cars. I would pry give the interior advantage to the Maxima, but I think both are pretty equal in the performance and exterior appearence department. There are a number of people that have their Grandprixs running in the 12's with the fastest being in the 12.2X range. Honestly if I really wanted to go fast, I'd buy a Grand National and mod it into the 9's but for now my grandprix is the fastest car I can afford, and I'm saving my money to buy a house right now.

Adam
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 08:08 PM
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Whoa...

Talk about straight up honesty and maturity...i think he's pulling out chain! Just kidding...i love the GTP's...would be a fun car to have.
lol-after reading your post i'm almost left wtih a warm feeling inside...maybe someday a bond will form between GTP and Maxima... hahaha

Just outta curiousity...hows your stock suspension?!?! Talk about a "con" to the maxima..i know others will back me up on that one!!
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 08:14 PM
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Not that I can race you (IN NY) but there's a whole bunch of GTP guys that reguarly go to the track that theblue and I go to. Most of them are stock to lightly modified and run high 14's, and one guy with a GT runs like low 16's.

There is one guy however, that has a ton. I don't know what he has, but he's run a 13.9, and constantly runs a 14.1.

I've run 14.59, and typically run 14.6 - 14.8. That puts me just ahead a of a slightly modified GTP, but far behind the heavily modified one.

BTW - My mods are in my sig.

Oh, NYCe MaXiMa, this guy is far from a troll. He's not talking $hit, and asking good questions. Chill out!
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by LoveSick
to be fair for the GTP, I think the Max should play fair and not use blue bottle! Or if any, blast a 100shot???
Don runs mid 14s with no bottle
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 08:29 PM
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well....as far as suspension is concerned, lets just say that wider isn't always better. Lighter is better.

The grandprix isn't the best in the twisties because it's just too heavy (I think my car is close to 3,700 pounds), there's just too much inertia. Fortunatly, there are some cheap suspension mods that help out. I put in the front and rear strut tower braces from the regal and they made a big difference. They good thing is that they only cost $12 each from the GM dealer, the bad news is that I had to drill into my front strut tower braces to install it, the rear brace just slides over the stock bolts in the strut tower so that isn't bad. Then I put in some poly-u bushings and endlinks for $29 and they made a nice difference. I also put in the next level rear sway bar which helped a ton. There are some guys that actually take their cars to autocrosses who have the eibachs and Konis but I still think the Grandprix is just to heavy to be competitive in an autocross. I took my Grandprix to an autocross before I did any suspension upgrades and lets just say it was pretty ugly. I think I'll just stay in a straight line and leave the curves to the Miatas.

Adam
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by ejj5875
Not that I can race you (IN NY) but there's a whole bunch of GTP guys that reguarly go to the track that theblue and I go to. Most of them are stock to lightly modified and run high 14's, and one guy with a GT runs like low 16's.

There is one guy however, that has a ton. I don't know what he has, but he's run a 13.9, and constantly runs a 14.1.

I've run 14.59, and typically run 14.6 - 14.8. That puts me just ahead a of a slightly modified GTP, but far behind the heavily modified one.

BTW - My mods are in my sig.

Oh, NYCe MaXiMa, this guy is far from a troll. He's not talking $hit, and asking good questions. Chill out!

yeh, i overreacted, my fault... just edited my previous response..
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 09:17 PM
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what about Kev? that'll be fair.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 09:47 PM
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I respect this SavannahGTP's post. I don't know what some people in here are getting worked up about. Those of you that are, are giving all Maxima owners a very bad name. Calm down. Friendly competition is fun, just chill out and race and leave the *****ing and moaning to the children.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 09:48 PM
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Hey Savannahgtp,

Adam,

first off, I like to welcome you to our board. Like to see other car owners give some input. For what ever reason, there are some folks on this board that just talks smack when another car/board member posts here. It is like an automatic defense like response. Just ignor them, they mean no harm.

When you come to ATL, try to post on the southeast forum. This way us local guys will find out easier.

I'm a total novice when it comes to drag racing. Only been twice; had a lot of fun. Never been to commerce, but a few of us locals have been talking about going. I'll lose, but I'll race you for beer any day

There are only two SC maxes in the ATL vicinity, both are autos. One max has been having a bit of trouble, but he runs at commerce frequently, so there's a good chance he'll take you on. the other SC max is brand new, and I'm sure he'll be eager to give you a run.

By the way, I have lots of buddies that live in effingham, so may be I'll look you up next time I'm over in savannah.

later.
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Old Oct 7, 2001 | 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Synki
GTP's do not run 0-60 in 8 seconds. They run 6.7-7.0. I have seen a stock GTP run 14.5 (but he never matched it again). They usually run low 15's to high 14's stock.

Their auto tranny is a weak point as is their top end. When you compare a GTP only going to 12x (limited) vs a Max doing 145-150, its over.
hey synki...i should sneak the GTP up to etown some night eh?
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by dmontzmax
Like I have said before the GTP hides behind its S/C you take that away and what you have is a car that wont even beat a 91 civic dx...haha...But anyways I wish you were in Cali. I know a certain N/A*Clears throat* that would tear you to pieces. And I dont think we should let Don pound the hell out of that thing waste of time since he is in Texas besides didnt he just hit high 11's?
Thats one of the most rediculous things I have ever heard!

Civic DX huh, well the n/a Grand Prix GT makes 200 h.p. It would make light work of every Civic except the Si, which would be a close run.

I have been wanting to take a trip to the strip, but Commerce usually stinks. I would rather go to the Silver Dollar Raceway.

I don't expect to top high 14's though so I wouldn't be much of a run. I watched a GTP with a smaller pulley turn a 13.9 there, quite impressive! It looked stock, but there was that whistle noise coming from under the hood.

I plan on getting the V2, intake, exhaust and suspension, then I will give you a hard time!

If you must go to Commerce let me know when and I will try to change my schedule at work to be there, I really need to get an idea what this car runs stock. Commerce is generally 2-3/10's, and up to 2 m.p.h, slower than SDR. Bad traction and somewhat higher elevation.
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 10:31 PM
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Thats one of the most rediculous things I have ever heard!

Civic DX huh, well the n/a Grand Prix GT makes 200 h.p. It would make light work of every Civic except the Si, which would be a close run.

I have been wanting to take a trip to the strip, but Commerce usually stinks. I would rather go to the Silver Dollar Raceway.

I don't expect to top high 14's though so I wouldn't be much of a run. I watched a GTP with a smaller pulley turn a 13.9 there, quite impressive! It looked stock, but there was that whistle noise coming from under the hood.

I plan on getting the V2, intake, exhaust and suspension, then I will give you a hard time!

If you must go to Commerce let me know when and I will try to change my schedule at work to be there, I really need to get an idea what this car runs stock. Commerce is generally 2-3/10's, and up to 2 m.p.h, slower than SDR. Bad traction and somewhat higher elevation.
race him in yr prelude
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 10:41 PM
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race him in yr prelude
Can't, sold it.

Had to give up the toy, we have two little ones now. I had spent over $14K building it and the aftermarket clutches were lasting about 3K miles, not too mention various other high maintenance issues. Too much money being spent on it every month.

At least with the Maxima I can justify a few mods since it carries the whole family with ease!
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Can't, sold it.

Had to give up the toy, we have two little ones now. I had spent over $14K building it and the aftermarket clutches were lasting about 3K miles, not too mention various other high maintenance issues. Too much money being spent on it every month.

At least with the Maxima I can justify a few mods since it carries the whole family with ease!
oops, didn't read the "(sold)" part hehe.
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no you can't mod your maxima.. I had a certain bet with a certain member here.. said that he SE would be a great value if you didn't start modding yours so if you do.. i win
Originally posted by VeeTec


Can't, sold it.

Had to give up the toy, we have two little ones now. I had spent over $14K building it and the aftermarket clutches were lasting about 3K miles, not too mention various other high maintenance issues. Too much money being spent on it every month.

At least with the Maxima I can justify a few mods since it carries the whole family with ease!
Old Oct 7, 2001 | 11:11 PM
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no you can't mod your maxima.. I had a certain bet with a certain member here.. said that he SE would be a great value if you didn't start modding yours so if you do.. i win
Did you note the mods I am talking about, the wheels will stay stock. I like to surprise ppl.

I may do the suspension though.

Old Oct 7, 2001 | 11:45 PM
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i am in jacksonville and i could meet you sometime at the tracks.. i dont give a flying crap whether i have to post a loss or buy you a 12-pack, i know i would probly run low 15's with an amazing launch and if i took out all my stereo stuff and all that extra weight.. but let us know when you are coming up here.. ive gone up against grand prix's and pulled on em, but it wasnt a huge win.. would like to see how i stand up against a modded GTP..
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hey synki...i should sneak the GTP up to etown some night eh?


Sure!
Old Oct 8, 2001 | 07:59 AM
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Sure!
i might just have to. it's going to be sold very shortly though. i have been wanting to mod it for about 4 years now to no avail.
Old Oct 8, 2001 | 09:38 AM
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i might just have to. it's going to be sold very shortly though. i have been wanting to mod it for about 4 years now to no avail.
Maybe i should whip out the Supra TT.

You know.. the one that took out the F360 Spyder.
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When GTP beats a Maxima, we rip on it for its quality. So what happens when we beat BMWs?

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