Tornado.... I know someone has bought one before :)
Originally posted by mzmtg
Ryan, I'm disappointed...
Ryan, I'm disappointed...
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Originally posted by medicsonic
I am too, this is the 79th (really) thread asking about it.
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I am too, this is the 79th (really) thread asking about it.
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the tornado does help on some cars depending on there intake manifold design my friend had one on his MX6 and he said it helped on topend power he gave it to me when he sold the car and it sucks. I notice no gain whatsoever. Im willing to sell it if theres any fools willing to buy it.
Originally posted by TILLEYS99
the tornado does help on some cars depending on there intake manifold design my friend had one on his MX6 and he said it helped on topend power he gave it to me when he sold the car and it sucks. I notice no gain whatsoever. Im willing to sell it if theres any fools willing to buy it.
the tornado does help on some cars depending on there intake manifold design my friend had one on his MX6 and he said it helped on topend power he gave it to me when he sold the car and it sucks. I notice no gain whatsoever. Im willing to sell it if theres any fools willing to buy it.
Originally posted by TILLEYS99
It cause a tornado effect, have you ever seen one.
It cause a tornado effect, have you ever seen one.
OK OK, I've seen the infomercial
In theory what happens is the air that is passing through the tube w/o the tornado is all discombobulated and is almost pushed threw by the air following it, which is not that much. The tornado is supposed to spin the air like the vortex of a tornado (hence the name) This causes the MORE air to travel FASTER into the cumbustion chanber because with the air spinning it is more concentrated and almost like its being sucked in. In theory. Hope this helps.
OK think of it like this when you drain the bath tub and the water starts empting out there is alot of gurgling and whatnot. Once it gets low enough then the funnel action starts and the water drains faster. Same principal
OK think of it like this when you drain the bath tub and the water starts empting out there is alot of gurgling and whatnot. Once it gets low enough then the funnel action starts and the water drains faster. Same principal
so basicly your saying that no matter what you do except F induction you wont increase your air flow. What if you can make the air flow through the intake manifold better that would definitly help, Im sure on some poor designed manifolds the tornado would work.
Originally posted by TILLEYS99
so basicly your saying that no matter what you do except F induction you wont increase your air flow. What if you can make the air flow through the intake manifold better that would definitly help, Im sure on some poor designed manifolds the tornado would work.
so basicly your saying that no matter what you do except F induction you wont increase your air flow. What if you can make the air flow through the intake manifold better that would definitly help, Im sure on some poor designed manifolds the tornado would work.
You will if the intake tubing is bigger. However what this is doing is taking the STOCK diameter air intake and is putting something in the way of it. That isn't going to work.
Maybe it was all in his head. Come on, he just spent $75 on something, of course he's going to believe it works. Butt dynos are meaningless. They've dynoed Tornado equipped cars and found that power remained the same, or dropped a little. They've also run Tornado equipped cars at the track and found the times to be the exact same. They've even tested the fuel economy claims and found that no extra mileage was gained from the Tornado. Don't you think that if something claimed to give 5-20 horsepower and a 20% increase in fuel economy it would be able to be measured by testing equipment?
Have you seen how Tornado gets their claims? They basically cheated on the dyno, which was an old unreliable Clayton and have absolutely no proof about the fuel economy claims. They just throw up some charts. I can type up some charts too and claim whatever I want.
Several magazines have tested it independently and found it to be junk.
Think about it. Even if the tornado spun the air like it's supposed to, which I don't think it does (I learned a lot about fluid dynamics in school) all the effects would be cancelled by the intake manifold. If the tornado was feeding air directly to the engine, then their claim would make more sense (not much). But even if the air was spinning, the intake manifold would basically change the flow of the air totally. 1 tube is split into 6 runners, you think the tornado somehow manages to keep air spinning through there?
All the tornado does is create turbulence in the air and mess up it's flow. Look at it, it has absolutely no scientific reason for being shaped like it is. They just angled some tin foil to make people think that it's twisting air. Put it in a wind tunnel, bet you the air isn't spinning like they claim. Put it on a flow bench, bet you it decreases the flow of air to the engine.
Have you seen how Tornado gets their claims? They basically cheated on the dyno, which was an old unreliable Clayton and have absolutely no proof about the fuel economy claims. They just throw up some charts. I can type up some charts too and claim whatever I want.
Several magazines have tested it independently and found it to be junk.
Think about it. Even if the tornado spun the air like it's supposed to, which I don't think it does (I learned a lot about fluid dynamics in school) all the effects would be cancelled by the intake manifold. If the tornado was feeding air directly to the engine, then their claim would make more sense (not much). But even if the air was spinning, the intake manifold would basically change the flow of the air totally. 1 tube is split into 6 runners, you think the tornado somehow manages to keep air spinning through there?
All the tornado does is create turbulence in the air and mess up it's flow. Look at it, it has absolutely no scientific reason for being shaped like it is. They just angled some tin foil to make people think that it's twisting air. Put it in a wind tunnel, bet you the air isn't spinning like they claim. Put it on a flow bench, bet you it decreases the flow of air to the engine.
Originally posted by TILLEYS99
evidently it helps on some cars cause my friend who had it liked it alot. Im not saying it will work on a max cause i know it doesnt but some cars it might help. Thats all Im saying.
evidently it helps on some cars cause my friend who had it liked it alot. Im not saying it will work on a max cause i know it doesnt but some cars it might help. Thats all Im saying.
yup
those things aren't much, there was another product out there called the spiralmax too. i called the, they told me i needed 3 spiralmaxes. i said why i only want one. and they said we know about the new maximas you need one for the intake, and 2 for the exhaust pipings. i was like WTF, you gotta be kidding, each one was like $70, and for all 3 i would be paying $210 for 3 pieces of tin. i was like no thanks and they told me that i would gain at least 20 hp, for $210 i would save a bit more and get a Y-pipe. those tornado things are BS, they work mostly for american cars if you have seen their tests.
Originally posted by Shadow
Maybe it was all in his head. Come on, he just spent $75 on something, of course he's going to believe it works. Butt dynos are meaningless. They've dynoed Tornado equipped cars and found that power remained the same, or dropped a little. They've also run Tornado equipped cars at the track and found the times to be the exact same. They've even tested the fuel economy claims and found that no extra mileage was gained from the Tornado. Don't you think that if something claimed to give 5-20 horsepower and a 20% increase in fuel economy it would be able to be measured by testing equipment?
Have you seen how Tornado gets their claims? They basically cheated on the dyno, which was an old unreliable Clayton and have absolutely no proof about the fuel economy claims. They just throw up some charts. I can type up some charts too and claim whatever I want.
Several magazines have tested it independently and found it to be junk.
Funny, I said that 3 times above. BTW, Sig not MS approved.
Think about it. Even if the tornado spun the air like it's supposed to, which I don't think it does (I learned a lot about fluid dynamics in school) all the effects would be cancelled by the intake manifold. If the tornado was feeding air directly to the engine, then their claim would make more sense (not much). But even if the air was spinning, the intake manifold would basically change the flow of the air totally. 1 tube is split into 6 runners, you think the tornado somehow manages to keep air spinning through there?
All the tornado does is create turbulence in the air and mess up it's flow. Look at it, it has absolutely no scientific reason for being shaped like it is. They just angled some tin foil to make people think that it's twisting air. Put it in a wind tunnel, bet you the air isn't spinning like they claim. Put it on a flow bench, bet you it decreases the flow of air to the engine.
Maybe it was all in his head. Come on, he just spent $75 on something, of course he's going to believe it works. Butt dynos are meaningless. They've dynoed Tornado equipped cars and found that power remained the same, or dropped a little. They've also run Tornado equipped cars at the track and found the times to be the exact same. They've even tested the fuel economy claims and found that no extra mileage was gained from the Tornado. Don't you think that if something claimed to give 5-20 horsepower and a 20% increase in fuel economy it would be able to be measured by testing equipment?
Have you seen how Tornado gets their claims? They basically cheated on the dyno, which was an old unreliable Clayton and have absolutely no proof about the fuel economy claims. They just throw up some charts. I can type up some charts too and claim whatever I want.
Several magazines have tested it independently and found it to be junk.
Funny, I said that 3 times above. BTW, Sig not MS approved.
Think about it. Even if the tornado spun the air like it's supposed to, which I don't think it does (I learned a lot about fluid dynamics in school) all the effects would be cancelled by the intake manifold. If the tornado was feeding air directly to the engine, then their claim would make more sense (not much). But even if the air was spinning, the intake manifold would basically change the flow of the air totally. 1 tube is split into 6 runners, you think the tornado somehow manages to keep air spinning through there?
All the tornado does is create turbulence in the air and mess up it's flow. Look at it, it has absolutely no scientific reason for being shaped like it is. They just angled some tin foil to make people think that it's twisting air. Put it in a wind tunnel, bet you the air isn't spinning like they claim. Put it on a flow bench, bet you it decreases the flow of air to the engine.
So i guess no one wants to buy my new improved tornado air thingy. What I did was take all the insides out the twisted fins etc and placed it in the intake hose, this thus pressurizes the air and makes it move faster into the manifold thus causing a boost effect. Similar to a pressure washer tip just make the opening a little smaller and viola rush.
This is model thisdontwork234 if anyone wants one let me know.
This is model thisdontwork234 if anyone wants one let me know.
Originally posted by DanNY
FYI..it doesn't spin.
FYI..it doesn't spin.
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