I know, let's get woodear to race GTPGuy!!! Loser has to leave the maxima.org forum permanently...

 

That's weird, because my friends 99 Z28 6spd ran 12.8 at 110 with a few bolt ons! And another guy we knew ran 11.5 at 120-130mph with 80shot of NOS. But we are at SEA LEVEL.

 

I did race on track, with my '98 Max with bolt-ons, right before I sold it. I don't care for drag racing, but I do wish to know how fast my car is after I spent all the money before I sell it. I made two runs only, 15.50 and 15.51. And in my opinion, it doesn't take that much skill to race an auto, I can see why you improved your time so much since it's a 5sp, it's hard to get consistent time with that.

Now, you think GS400 is a 15's car right? ok, how much money are you gonna put where your mouth is???
Let me propose this, I go to E-town track, under the witness from this BBS, you can pick the people. Let's put $1000 on this, if I get a 14's slip, give me a grand, if I can't break into 14's, I give you a grand. Since you believe GS4 is a 15's car, you won't miss out on this easy money making oppotunity right???
Eager to hear from you.

 

I dunno
I mean Jim W had enuff of those stories about him beating GS400 with his NA auto

 

Well I guess all the BBS members here were lying when they said they saw GS400 running 14.4-14.8.
I admit SC'ed Max will most likely beat a GS400, ****, it's a 3100 lbs car with 260HP at the wheels vs. a 3800 lbs car with 240hp at wheels, the Max should ****ing win.
But what happens when a GS400 gets a supercharger?? Viper for lunch? Of course the ****ing Viper can get a SC too huh...

 

that bet wasn't a risk to make, but maybe the guy with the chip in his max will give them a good run.

 

Did you consider the track surface and elevation? Woodear's GS4 *might* not run 14s @ your track, but may run 14s on another track. And like you said, your track is slow...so most tracks aren't right? Then if your track is a special scenario, how can you assume the GS4 will run 15s?

 

this will be interesting, i seen a gs400 s/c w/ aftercooler run a 12 at 120 mph. but remmember it is a v8.more boost about 28.ye sthat is what the owner told me, sounds fishy thogh. how about a sentra with a turbo and a 100 shot,10.8 at 129.straight 4! hahaha i will be modding the max's engine bit soon, intake and head work along with some cams and the chip another 70 hp.this will be interesting.have a nice day!

 

IS ANYONE GOING TO RACE WOODEAR JUST FOR FUN?!?!?!?!!?!?!?
DAMN WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL?!?!?!?!

 

Sure for fun; if I ever race anyone it's for fun. Problem is that many people won't think it's just for fun and egos will be crushed and/or bloated...not fun.

 

Well no egos will be crushed if the person racing woodear wasn't the one talking ****.

 

I think WoodEar missed his DaveB's point completely... He didn't say your car wouldn't run in the 14's, he said that until you have some numbers to prove it, he's going to assume it's a low 15's car. I'm with him on this, the GS400 that goes out to our track ran low 15's his first time out. I'm not going to put any money that you can't run 15's, and I'm sure no one else is either. The point is, you can talk all you want about how fast a GS400 is, but you and your GS400 is a different story. For all we know you could be an awesome driver BSing us all. Go show us what you can do, step up to the plate. I could care less whether someone's maxima here would beat your GS400 (although I think some could), but I'd be interested to see what you and your GS would run.

 

i'll do it chris.. just lemme know when you wanna try this.. im usually up in the bronx on weekends, and most of the time i've been working for my uncle and staying in manhattan.. so anything is doable.. only trick is college is comming up real real soon.. so if we wanna keep it safe.. we can try it at etown.. i know they have a few more open tracks.. or just meet up some where and have at it

 

Sure, but they say you are SC'ed now, I admit you can win if you are, no need to waste time.
If you are NA, let's do it, we can do it on the streets or at E-town, if at E-town I am trying to get Jim W. to come, better yet Davidl's SC Max too, let's do it all in one shot, save some **** time

 

yep i've had boost since bout springtime or so.. but just keeping it on the low.. hehe much more fun this way.. yea.. i think david or even drew would be a much more interesting race for the gs400.. i got it lets have a maxima meet at etown.. hehe

 

We should, it will be fun.
I think all you SC Max guys will kick my ***, but I have to defend my honor against the NA ones, hey a man is gotta do what he is gotta do
Jim W. should definitely come too.
Hey Dan wanna prganize another meet?!?

 

Not really.
See, you can't be 100% sure on these things, but one can give a logical benefit of doubt. Afterall, factory claim some numbers, all magazines test all cars, there are formula to calculate speed based on car spec... One should be able to estimate how fast a stock car runs, otherwise we can't say Maxima are faster than Yugo since none of us saw a Yugo run on track?
It's really not an outrageous thing to believe if a GS400 can run 14's or not. I never saw a stock Max run, but I will never say it's a 17's car, I will never assume 911TT/F360 are 14's car either.

in my opinion it's stupid to talk the way Dave B. did, he wanted to talk $hit so ok I called him out to put money on it, now where is he???

 

Everyone else pretty much got my point. Run it, then talk about how fast your GS400 is. As for the money, what is the point? I guess you're a bigger man than me because I don't have $1000 to wave around. I don't race for money.

A GS400 is a fast sedan and I don't doubt it one bit, but to say an NA modded 5 speed Max doesn't stand a chance against you is ignorant. Here's my point. The GS400 is a 5 speed auto which is good, but it's still an automagic. The Maxima is a 5 speed and has close gears. The GS400 has a power to weight ratio of 15.8:1 and the modded 5 speed Max (~185 fwhp) has a ratio of 16.4:1. The race will be close if the Max can get off the line effectively. Power to power, the cars are very closely matched. After 100mph, I think it's gonna be GS400 all the way. High revving, torque, V8, and more hp will dictate it's presence when pushed to the limit.

Dave

 

1) No I don't think too many got your point.
You simply called my GS400 is a 15sec car, that has nothing to do with whether a NA modded Max can beat it or not. Those are two different things. If I call your Max a 17's car when it was stock, I am sure you will be offended and want to bet with me too.
Also, don't lie outta your ***, cuz I never said any NA Max doesn't stand a chance, I said myself several times that Jeff is capable of beating me if he ran 14.6 on street tires(which I still don't whether it was slick or not). Just like Jim W's saying on the A6, in general a NA Max can't beat my GS400, of course there are exceptions. I really don't mind those exception, but it's pathetic to believe a normal Max can beat a GS400 so easily any day of the week.

2) Betting $1000 on what I believe does not make me a bigger man, it only proves who is talking for real and who is just talking $hit.
If I were poor and had no money, I will do anything to come up the money to bet on things I TRULY believed. I will borrow, I will sell my blood, cuz it's not about money I can win, it's about belief, Everyone can talk $hit when nothing matters, when the money is on the table 95% peopel shut the f&ck up.
Now, if I call your Max a 16's car, you gonna tell me you won't have a $1000 bet with me just cuz you don't have the money? You won't try to come up with the money to defend what you truly believe??

 

prove to us that YOUR car is not a 15sec, that means your car with you in the drivers seat pressing the pedal. That's all we're saying. Don't grab gnikcuf numbers from a damn magazine. If you READ (READ it one more time), he states until you prove otherwise he will assume it is a 15sec car and you haven't. I think that MOST people with an education beyond 6th grade can understand what Dave is saying.

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2) Betting $1000 on what I believe does not make me a bigger man, it only proves who is talking for real and who is just talking $hit.

If I were poor and had no money, I will do anything to come up the money to bet on things I TRULY believed.

I'm not too sure if any car is worthy giving blood over or selling your soul to the devil because you TRULY believe in it. A guy over the internet thinks that your car is 7% slower than it maybe. I say I'lll race you for $100million. We'll meet halfway between TX and NY. If you don't have the money i suggest you go rob some banks and then come back and defend the honor of your car and your family name!!!! sheesh.....

 

Hey, I put money on the table for woodear to go run his GS and he backed down, whattup? Come on, name your price, I'm sure a lot of people here will donate to the cause to shut you up. What will it take, $100? $200? $500?

 

I already said I will go if it's meaningful, for example I get to run Jim's A6 and etc.
This is not about backout, if I give you $20, will you go to a place(a place you don't like to be) 40 miles away and stay there for 3 hrs???
Well anyway, guess what? Since you call me out, so don't quit now. I will go anytime you want me to, even by myself, to bring you a 14's slip, if I receive $500, since you asked for it.
Ok? So you go orgazine a Paypal account, I am sure you are right lots of people will pay to see me shut up, so once $500 hits my paypal account, I will go. If I fail to get the 14's slip, I return every penny. If I do get 14's slip, I get the $500.
Fair right? It has to be since you suggested.

 

Are you stupid mother fuka? You don't have a Max yet and Phil has SC, Tetsuo said NA Max.

 

I lose/You lose........whats the BFD right. I've dragged a few people around here (stoplight that is) and i can drive my 5 speed.

Does it really matter? You like your car right.......fast enough for you. Like you said......how much speed can you get? Its not like its practical to drive a 500 hp car as a daily driver......waste......nowhere around here can you legally haul A$$......

 

Exactly.
I will go up and race M5/E55 knowing I will get my *** kicked, who cares like you said. But I don't talk $hit about being faster than them, see that's the difference.

 

what else will woodear do for $$$$$....maybe we can all pitch in so he will stop whining...

 

Woodear, you can say my car runs 16s and 17s, but the truth is I've got timeslips (on my site) and witnesses from this site watching my car running 14s at 94mph. What about your GS400? I still believe your car is running 15s until you prove otherwise. JeffK is a good driver and he gets 14.5-14.8@94-95mph on street tires and 14.3s on drag tires, but there are others that have run 14.7-14.9 with similar trap speeds and mods. I guarentee I'll be pulling off mid-14s later this year when the weather cools down and the humidity is lower. I don't powershift and I don't consider myself a great driver. Remember Bryan H? He had a modded 92 SE that ran 14.5s on street tires, 14.2s on drag radials, and 13.8s on NOS. Bryan is an awesome driver (I race with him) , but I'm trying to prove to you that modded NA 5 speed Maximas running well into 14s is not a fluke. You've got Jeff, Bryan, Don, me, and a few others I can't think of off the top of my head that are in the 14s with NA Maxs. Think about it, how many of us go to the track? Maybe 10-12 people and half of us are in the 14s. If we went every other weekend like Jeff and making money I might add, we might all be runnning deep into the 14s. Practice, practice and you don't have any. You call BS on people beating GS400s, I call BS on you running 14s. You're not gonna win this until you run it.

Again, I don't bet money on races. I'm not a betting man and I don't need to justify myself by putting money on the line.

Dave

 

I didn't say I'd give you $500 to run 14's, I said I'd give $25, maybe a bit more for you to run period. I asked what it would take to get you to go run, I didn't say I would pay it so don't act like I'm chicken if I don't give you $500 to go run. I'd personally be willing to donate $40, we might be able to get some other folks to chip in and get it up to $100ish. I could care less whether you run 14's or not, I just want to see you get your *** out to the track and show us what you can do.

BTW, I agree with Francis, I bet we could raise $500 to get WoodEar to shut up, I'd definately chip in on that. Or since Woody has the dough, maybe he'll send me $500 to shut up, I could use it right about now...

 

WOW! HEHE n/m

 

Yep, I'm enjoying it, and it's a great way to keep from doing work!

 

Why is Woodear so damn negative about everything? I don't think I've never read a positive post from the guy. He really gets off on calling BS and calling people out. Plus, he constantly ridicules Russ and Russ never replies back in the same insulting manner. I guess it shows who's the bigger man. Woodear must believe money and back accounts dictate what kind of person you are because he sure likes to put money on the line to justify his "knowledge". What a shame.

Dave

 

Some of his posts I enjoy, some I could live without. More than anything, Woodear forces you to think about what you say here...

And be prepared to back your thoughts/comments up....

 

So I can call Maxima a 18sec car? And those who never went to track should be quite and take my $hit unless they go to the track to prove they can do better than 18's???
If that's how you want it to be, guilty until proved innocent, that's fine with me. You have the rights to call my GS400 a 15's car, I will also have the rights to call all the Maxima here(who never ran on track) 18's car. ok?

 

No problem, read my reponse to Francis.
If you want to call my GS400 a 17sec car just because I didn't run it on track, I will just call all the Maximas which never been to track 20's car. Fair? Everyone is guilty until proved innocent.

 

I did not say I want $500 only from you, I said you can go organizing and rasie $500, that's the price to pay for me to do something I don't want to do. Or, I really want to run Jim's A6, if he will race me, I will go for free paying for my own gas/ticket. So I hope you can understand by now, it's not that I am afriad to go to track, or I am so money hungry, I will do things that interest me at any cost, but if you really want to force me to do things I am not interested in, compensate me to make it worthy for me.

Btw, you never answered my question. If I give you $20, will you drive to 40 miles one way to a place you don't like to be and stay there for hours??

 

send me the 20 and i think about it.. hahahaha no jk.. it'd be cool to meet up at the track.. now to get drew to show up.. lol.. keep up the posts this keeps me laughing thru work

 

Nope, it's not about using money to justify knowledge. I already said if I am poor I will still put money on what I truly believe.
It shows who talks real and who talks $hit.
I can tell you all day my stock Civic can beat your 14.9 Max, so f*cking what? I don't lose anything by talking $hit? But if you call me out and put money on the line, I will shut the f*ck up cuz I know I am talking $hit.

 

The big difference is, Dave and I have actually seen GS400's run 15's. Where is this 18 second maxima? Cuz I know you wouldn't just be pulling numbers out of your *** to **** people off, that's not like you at all.

And yes, send me $25 (paypal debtman@zdnetmail.com) and I'll do it. I'll head out to our drag strip (43 miles), and I'll even stay the whole day. And no, I don't enjoy it, I enjoy the 15 seconds I get to run on the track, but the other 6 hours where I stand around sweating surrounded by a bunch of rednecks in american iron laughing at my car are not enjoyable. I haven't been there since May, and I don't intend to except to take my CRX out and see if I can break into the 17's for the hell of it.

As to the question of why WoodEar is the way he is, I think it's because his mother never loved him. He just needs someone to give him a big bear hug every day until he cracks.

 

It's not nice to talk about other people's mommies...let's leave the family out of these fun debates.

That's all I gotta say.

 

It does not matter what you see because you guys are calling *my* car not that someone's car you saw.
Nope, I will send you $20 and you go to somewhere *I* pick, you don't get to pick.

Now, I have one understanding about this forum, that is no personal attack, you can argue and lay out facts about cars or whatever, but don't get personal, I certainly wish to leave people's mom out of this things. You have seen me in flame and the lauguage I used, I respect Jambo's effort to put up this forum, so I just let you know how I feel about what you say without making much noise, I hope you can treat me with the same courtsey.