well, after seeing those tight videos of the drifting cars from http://www.sandiegostreetracing.com/media/videos.asp , curious on knowing how to induce a drift on a fwd.

i kno it's possible because there's several "drift" clubs that have hondas and other FWD drifters... there was an old issue of Super Street that actually explained it, but i dont have that issue anymore.. just wundering if anyone's tried it for real..

 

I think FWD autocrossers utilize their e-brakes to invoke a drift. One well-timed YANK = drift...............

 

We're talking drift here as in fishtailing and swinging the rear out, right? In that case, you want to lock up the back wheels so that they lose the usual rolling traction that keeps them from going sideways. Once they're skidding instead of rolling, they have almost no "sense" of direction and will slide sideways with just a slight sideways nudge.

Of course, most cars are designed to prevent this, but you can mess with the weight distribution, suspension ,and tire pressure to induce it, or just lock up the rear with the emergency brake. You could also try adjusting the rear brake pressure so it'll lock up quicker, though I wouldn't recommend doing <i>any</i> of this.

 

BIG BIG rear sway bars and ebrake.

-Shing

 

hatchback. Just induced with some ebrake and a little wheel control.

 

uh... it's easier in the rain =)
(not that i'm telling you to try it though)

 

On snowy road with e-brake action =) It's hard to it pull off on dry pavement unless you get some speed going.

 

ive done it in wet empty parking lots but it always seems to do a 180

 

dry pavement solution-----> make sure you have bald tires on the rear + e-brake + speed + skills = drift

 

so i take it you have only two of those components, eh steve? ahhahaha. :P



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woah, you guys got Emergency brakes?? my Max doesnt have one! neither did any of my old cars. The Parking brake??? its a PARKING BRAKE, not an Emergency BRAKE. When your in an emergency situation, do you use the "emergency brake" to stop you?

You can drift 2 ways,
One is using the parking brake,
other is If your car is balanced well and has netural steer, you can induce drift by simply letting off the gas or braking, gassing it will gain traction again.
Both these methods is for an experinced and skilled driver. I wouldnt recommend doing it unless you know wut your doing....

 

A bit of wet pavement will do the trick... this is from personal experience, and I wasn't even driving fast.

 

Doesn't this hurt your car? I didn't think you were just supposed to yank the **** out of it unless in a tite situation. Just my thought then again i am only 17.

 

the parking brake used to be called the "emergency brake" until some person sued some car company because the e-brake cable snapped and wasn't much of an emergency brake when his primaries went out.. but neways a crew?? yeah i'm a member of Drift Tek.. hahah ok flame on about it but they are my brothers. visit the site it's cool, i look lowely upon the "second phaze" tho.. hahah (they not really drift tek) neways. another way is, get up to speed, let off the gas throwing it off balancing while down shifting (engine brake) then you're rear will slide out due to inertia. oh yeah and prior to all this, jerk the wheel to towards the direction u wanna go. after you feel the car to begin "drifting" floor the gas, it'll break the fronts free. and u'll go side ways even more. and let it off a lil (not all the way), steer the wheel into the direction of the drift. then use the gas to balance the car out then u shuld shoot straight out.
other method. e-brake blah blah balh.. someone else has covered it already

**disclaimer** the above is strongly not suggested on public roads. i am strongly against neglegent driving. but if ya wanna learn how to drift, do it in a open lot with no cars no people, and nothign to hit. however if you do damage your car, get injured or killed, or do any harm to others, it is your responsiblity. drifting should not be performed on public streets where there are others life at risk.. i've slammed two cars goign sideways. only damage to my cars have been made. no injuries and i'm greatful for it. (jeep- blown tire, CRX- bent rim, busted CV joint, bent lower control arm)

 

You need, a good stiff balanced suspension (like mine ) and the right tire pressure (like 48 up front, 38 in the rear), and a good sharp corner that you can go into and brake way late going to fast while yanking the wheel around at the same time to keep from going of course. At least that's how I get my rear end around, it's kinda cool, even on a good turn my car drifts neutral and the rear end will kick out a little if I overshoot it.

For more fun, remove you front sway bar (if it's removable...) and add on a big honking rear sway bar...

 

I've drifted in wet parking lots, using my handbrake.

I also found a dirt road(sorta like the one in Pioneer's new sig pic!) that was really bumpy. Since the tires are hardly in contact with the ground(especially the rear), all I had to do was flick the wheel a bit and get the back end out big time! This was my favorite, becuase I didn't have to wait for it to rain.

 

well i kno how to get the rear out,
what i'm asking is actually driving around course / hills while drifiting..

 

Me too in my Altimas, but they've both been leases that I knew/know I'll turn in at the end since I autox them and generally drive the s**t out of them. Our Maximas were both bought, so I don't do much more than go fast in a straight line with them.

Those drifting video show how capable Nissan cars are, even compared to the Suby and Mazdas in the last clip. Makes ya wonder why they don't get as much respect in the U.S. There are hardly any Nissans in all those street racing clips. (Except for that old 510 Datsun that kicks everyone else's ***! )

 

I dunno what the track you frequent is like, but is there really enough room to drift all that much? With your low chin spoiler, you might end up turning your Max into an bulldozer. Be careful, dude.

 

I can do power-on oversteer in my rear-sway-bar-LESS Saturn. Not that hard.... although I can't use it very well-- times didn't improve auto-'xing when I was trying to drift around some of the corners.

 

.....Nissan is airing a TV commercial at the moment with a drifting SENTRA. It's drifting and the front wheels are spinning like crazy. I forget if it's on a wet or dry surface though..I think WET. Funny thing drifting the car in an ad, without a rider stating that it's a hazardous activity that shouldnt be tried..oh well..I guess I wouldnt be taking a Pathfinder uphill on a slalom skiing course to the starting gate either!

 

Like <a href="http://members.nbci.com/mikey63/mikeydrift.mpg">this.</a> I'm sure you recognize Mike-Y and his white/black hybrid Civic from Buttonwillow. Ask him

 

i'm 16 and i bet i can drift better than you all i can do a 90 degree parrallel parking thing but its gott be cones or i'll freak out or sumthing i uually drift to show off and usually in someone elses car its fun once you get it down to an art



90 degree drift seems to be the easiest way to go with me go about 40 make sure you have room for mistakes and swing wide turn into the turn then yank the brake for 1 second then let go and streer your way out of it


not to good on the tires but its fun be safe i wear a helmet when i do it but i do it hard core and not in parking lots(can't wait to mess up and insurece goes up 10X over) think im stopping next month ... maybee