Another Victim fallen to Don's VB Mod
Originally posted by 1/3There2/3ToGo
The install is very easy. I did mine in about 4 hours the first time, took about 2 the second time(I too swaped for stock as I am also selling mine) Just get the instructions off don's site and you are good to go. Follow them step by step. Do not be afraid to get messy and wear your old clothes cuz ATF doesnt come out to my knowledge. You just drop the tranny pan, clean it drop the VB with 13 bolts, put the new one in - keep an eye on the retaining clip and the spring, put the 13 bolts back in and put the pan back on. After that just add the ATF.
Kirk
The install is very easy. I did mine in about 4 hours the first time, took about 2 the second time(I too swaped for stock as I am also selling mine) Just get the instructions off don's site and you are good to go. Follow them step by step. Do not be afraid to get messy and wear your old clothes cuz ATF doesnt come out to my knowledge. You just drop the tranny pan, clean it drop the VB with 13 bolts, put the new one in - keep an eye on the retaining clip and the spring, put the 13 bolts back in and put the pan back on. After that just add the ATF.
Kirk
Re: Re: Re: driveability
Originally posted by CandiMan
Chirping isn't easy for a NA motor under WOT. I have all the usual intake/exhaust mods and my VB was installed in a fresh rebuild tranny and no chirping for me, even at WOT. But I do love the positive engagement of gears. If we were able to get back the 20-30hp we lose to our 5spd brothers with the same mods we would be whopping them at ever light
Chirping isn't easy for a NA motor under WOT. I have all the usual intake/exhaust mods and my VB was installed in a fresh rebuild tranny and no chirping for me, even at WOT. But I do love the positive engagement of gears. If we were able to get back the 20-30hp we lose to our 5spd brothers with the same mods we would be whopping them at ever light
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: driveability
you didnt "chirp" in 2nd there... like they are talking about.. you on the other hand floored it and the car shifted to first and your soft tires could not grab, therefore you hear the chirp.. they are referring to a full stop and then floor it.. when it shifts to second the tires chirp.. my mom's 330 5spd can chirp second and third... its fun.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: driveability
Originally posted by thebigsadler
you didnt "chirp" in 2nd there... like they are talking about.. you on the other hand floored it and the car shifted to first and your soft tires could not grab, therefore you hear the chirp.. they are referring to a full stop and then floor it.. when it shifts to second the tires chirp.. my mom's 330 5spd can chirp second and third... its fun.
you didnt "chirp" in 2nd there... like they are talking about.. you on the other hand floored it and the car shifted to first and your soft tires could not grab, therefore you hear the chirp.. they are referring to a full stop and then floor it.. when it shifts to second the tires chirp.. my mom's 330 5spd can chirp second and third... its fun.
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Originally posted by BenBlanco218
Man, that sounded really simple.
Man, that sounded really simple.
Chirping comes after a shift. You floor it, in an automagic, and after the 1-2 shift as it gets into 2nd gear the tires chirp. That is a true chirp. Otherwise its just cold tire/cold road/bald tires/slick road kind of situation.
Kirk
Originally posted by 97MaxGurl
It's definitely a process, but Mobiltek's/Don's write-up is pretty much right on the money. Making sure every bolt/ screw goes precisely on the right hole is critical. There's no margin for error so you need to take your time to follow's don's directions every step of the way. I was lucky enough to have Jeff and Jim who had prior experience in swapping out vbs to lend their time and expertise.
One of the best investment made on the max, right up there next to the intake and y-pipe [/B]
It's definitely a process, but Mobiltek's/Don's write-up is pretty much right on the money. Making sure every bolt/ screw goes precisely on the right hole is critical. There's no margin for error so you need to take your time to follow's don's directions every step of the way. I was lucky enough to have Jeff and Jim who had prior experience in swapping out vbs to lend their time and expertise.
One of the best investment made on the max, right up there next to the intake and y-pipe
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Thank you Mam.
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Originally posted by black019
cost wasnt mentioned yet
cost wasnt mentioned yet
$25 for shipping (US Priority)
$20 for box of Mobil ATF/ few cans of brake cleaners
$20 for tranny gasket/filter kit
$30 for Hayden Transmission Cooler 403
$50 for tip
Total: $470 ...all to make my auto 'chirp'
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Originally posted by 97MaxGurl
$325 for core swap
$25 for shipping (US Priority)
$20 for box of Mobil ATF/ few cans of brake cleaners
$20 for tranny gasket/filter kit
$30 for Hayden Transmission Cooler 403
$50 for tip
Total: $470 ...all to make my auto 'chirp'
$325 for core swap
$25 for shipping (US Priority)
$20 for box of Mobil ATF/ few cans of brake cleaners
$20 for tranny gasket/filter kit
$30 for Hayden Transmission Cooler 403
$50 for tip
Total: $470 ...all to make my auto 'chirp'
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Few points about the VB:
1. In my experience the VB will decrease your 1/4 time by .2 seconds at the most if you are NA.. most likely it will give you no better times...
2. NOT everyone chirps 2nd with an auto. I for one have NEVER chirped 2nd.
3. The best mod for an auto is not a VB .. it's a 5-spd swap ..
i am done
Ant
1. In my experience the VB will decrease your 1/4 time by .2 seconds at the most if you are NA.. most likely it will give you no better times...
2. NOT everyone chirps 2nd with an auto. I for one have NEVER chirped 2nd.
3. The best mod for an auto is not a VB .. it's a 5-spd swap ..
i am done
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Originally posted by Ant95se
Few points about the VB:
1. In my experience the VB will decrease your 1/4 time by .2 seconds at the most if you are NA.. most likely it will give you no better times...
2. NOT everyone chirps 2nd with an auto. I for one have NEVER chirped 2nd.
3. The best mod for an auto is not a VB .. it's a 5-spd swap ..
i am done
Ant
Few points about the VB:
1. In my experience the VB will decrease your 1/4 time by .2 seconds at the most if you are NA.. most likely it will give you no better times...
2. NOT everyone chirps 2nd with an auto. I for one have NEVER chirped 2nd.
3. The best mod for an auto is not a VB .. it's a 5-spd swap ..
i am done
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Originally posted by 97MaxGurl
need some toilet tissue?
need some toilet tissue?
Wicked - Ask around. The guy on here that did the swap spend about $1500, but he did all the labor himslef with the help of another .org member. Add shop labor and you are easly at $2000-2500.
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The VB Mod actually slowes you down ?(decreased 1/4th) What the hell ? Why would anyone spend $450 to make their cars slower just so they can chirp. 
And about lengthening the tranny life, my sis has 170,000 miles on her stock automagic '95, and its still goin' strong. She's hard on it too.
BTW, I can get the 5spd conversion done for about $400, that's why I'm doin' it.
And about lengthening the tranny life, my sis has 170,000 miles on her stock automagic '95, and its still goin' strong. She's hard on it too. BTW, I can get the 5spd conversion done for about $400, that's why I'm doin' it.
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
The VB Mod actually slowes you down ?(decreased 1/4th) What the hell ? Why would anyone spend $450 to make their cars slower just so they can chirp. And about lengthening the tranny life, my sis has 170,000 miles on her stock automagic '95, and its still goin' strong. She's hard on it too.
BTW, I can get the 5spd conversion done for about $400, that's why I'm doin' it.
The VB Mod actually slowes you down ?(decreased 1/4th) What the hell ? Why would anyone spend $450 to make their cars slower just so they can chirp.
And about lengthening the tranny life, my sis has 170,000 miles on her stock automagic '95, and its still goin' strong. She's hard on it too. BTW, I can get the 5spd conversion done for about $400, that's why I'm doin' it.
Kirk
P.S. How the hell are you getting the swap for $400?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: driveability
Originally posted by thebigsadler
you didnt "chirp" in 2nd there... like they are talking about.. you on the other hand floored it and the car shifted to first and your soft tires could not grab, therefore you hear the chirp.. they are referring to a full stop and then floor it.. when it shifts to second the tires chirp.. my mom's 330 5spd can chirp second and third... its fun.
you didnt "chirp" in 2nd there... like they are talking about.. you on the other hand floored it and the car shifted to first and your soft tires could not grab, therefore you hear the chirp.. they are referring to a full stop and then floor it.. when it shifts to second the tires chirp.. my mom's 330 5spd can chirp second and third... its fun.
that is not the best course of action my friend, these auto owners are obviously desperate for the joys of a 5spd, if you do not yield, you will find your car stripped and burned in the morning.
Originally posted by carnal_c30
that is not the best course of action my friend, these auto owners are obviously desperate for the joys of a 5spd, if you do not yield, you will find your car stripped and burned in the morning.
that is not the best course of action my friend, these auto owners are obviously desperate for the joys of a 5spd, if you do not yield, you will find your car stripped and burned in the morning.
all i want is to know how you can get a 400 swap.
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Originally posted by carnal_c30
that is not the best course of action my friend, these auto owners are obviously desperate for the joys of a 5spd, if you do not yield, you will find your car stripped and burned in the morning.
that is not the best course of action my friend, these auto owners are obviously desperate for the joys of a 5spd, if you do not yield, you will find your car stripped and burned in the morning.
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Originally posted by carnal_c30
that is not the best course of action my friend, these auto owners are obviously desperate for the joys of a 5spd, if you do not yield, you will find your car stripped and burned in the morning.
that is not the best course of action my friend, these auto owners are obviously desperate for the joys of a 5spd, if you do not yield, you will find your car stripped and burned in the morning.
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Ok, I'll feed you guys a little more. I know $400 seems waaay too good to be true. What I mean is after I sell off my auto tranny after the entire 5spd swap, I will only be out about $400 with a fresh 5spd. How I do this is magic.
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
Ok, I'll feed you guys a little more. I know $400 seems waaay too good to be true. What I mean is after I sell off my auto tranny after the entire 5spd swap, I will only be out about $400 with a fresh 5spd. How I do this is magic.
Ok, I'll feed you guys a little more. I know $400 seems waaay too good to be true. What I mean is after I sell off my auto tranny after the entire 5spd swap, I will only be out about $400 with a fresh 5spd. How I do this is magic.
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Originally posted by black019
sounds like a 5 finger discount or you gettin it from a junk yard
sounds like a 5 finger discount or you gettin it from a junk yard
Re: driveability
Originally posted by theMax
how does the VB affect drivability? are the shifts rough now? How is it during normal driving? So many mods, so little $$
how does the VB affect drivability? are the shifts rough now? How is it during normal driving? So many mods, so little $$
I have heard stories of medics automagic chirping 2nd gear? So i'd say it's pretty
anyways, if I was to get the VB it would be for reliability reasons, supposedly it's a MUST HAVE mod for Boosted automagic Maximas or you can kiss your tranny good bye.
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Originally posted by thebigsadler
yeah i talked to chaz too.. but you need to find a buyer for all your auto parts... this wont be easy.. trust me.. or i would have done the swap 2 weekends ago when he called me.
yeah i talked to chaz too.. but you need to find a buyer for all your auto parts... this wont be easy.. trust me.. or i would have done the swap 2 weekends ago when he called me.
Are you ever gonna convert ??
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Originally posted by carnal_c30
that is not the best course of action my friend, these auto owners are obviously desperate for the joys of a 5spd, if you do not yield, you will find your car stripped and burned in the morning.
that is not the best course of action my friend, these auto owners are obviously desperate for the joys of a 5spd, if you do not yield, you will find your car stripped and burned in the morning.
there is no doubt that i want to have a 5speed.. but there is no guarrantee that i can sell the auto tranny and parts.. plus i just got airbag suspension, 18s, and my stereo redone, so without a definite buyer i cant afford 1400 for a few months.