General Maxima Discussion This a general area for Maxima discussions for all years. For more specific questions, visit one of the generation-specific forums.

Maxima, not a car for teen drivers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:13 AM
  #1  
ThurzNite's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,469
Maxima, not a car for teen drivers

Consumer Reports, April 2008

Cars for teen drivers
Find a suitable vehicle for your young motorists

When buying a vehicle, safety and reliability are important considerations, especially if it’s for a young driver, since they usually do not have a lot of driving experience or money. When shopping for a car for that young driver, look for ones with advanced safety features and good crash-test results. Generally speaking, bigger and heavier vehicles perform better in crash tests. But larger vehicles can have unwieldy handling and offer poor fuel economy.

Large pickups and SUVs are not recommended for young, inexperienced drivers because their high centers of gravity make them more prone to roll over than other vehicles. Sports cars are also a poor choice for young drivers. They beg to be driven too fast and have a higher rate of accidents than other cars.

Acura RSX
Acura TSX
Ford Focus sedan (2003 or later)
Ford Fusion
Honda Accord (4-cyl.)
Honda CR-V EX
Honda Civic EX
Honda Fit
Hyundai Sonata (4-cyl., 2006 or later)
Hyundai Tucson
Kia Optima (2006 or later)
Mazda 3 (with side airbags)
Mercury Milan
Pontiac Vibe (2006 or later)
Scion tC
Subaru Impreza (not WRX)
Subaru Forester
Toyota Camry (4-cyl.)
Toyota Corolla
Toyota Matrix (2006 or later)
Toyota Prius
Toyota RAV4 (2001 or later, non-3rd row)

The list is based on our test results, and government and insurance-industry crash-test results. These vehicles also showed average or better reliability.

We did not consider autos with 0-to-60-mph acceleration times faster than 8 seconds or slower than 11 seconds, those with braking distances longer than 145 ft. in dry conditions, or those with mediocre emergency-handling scores. Many vehicles that have been tested in the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) side-crash test without side air bags have been rated poor, the lowest rating. Therefore, we recommend that you look for a vehicle with head-protecting side air bags. Vehicles with electronic stability control may also provide benefits for less experienced drivers.

Newer models generally offer more safety features and provide better crash protection. Try to buy the most safety that your budget can afford, since no one needs these safety advantages more than a teenage driver.

CR'S RECOMMENDATIONS

The best bet is to buy the newest, most reliable model with the most safety equipment you can afford. If your budget can handle a newer car with multistage advanced front air bags, side and head-protection air bags, antilock brakes, and electronic stability control, so much the better. The assistance these systems can provide in an emergency situation can be especially beneficial to an inexperienced driver.

The older a car gets, the more its care and maintenance history will affect its overall performance and reliability.
Hmm... Why didn't Maxima make the list? Too fast?

Dr J

Last edited by ThurzNite; Nov 4, 2008 at 10:35 AM.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:17 AM
  #2  
MoncefA33's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,982
lol
We did not consider autos with 0-to-60-mph acceleration times faster than 8 seconds or slower than 11 seconds...
I am not a fan of Consumer Reports.

And yeah I think an 00-01 Maxima will do 0-60 in like 6.8?

And I'm 18 yet the my 20AE is a great car for me
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:25 AM
  #3  
njmaxseltd's Avatar
Member who somehow became The President of The SE-L Club
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 16,024
Originally Posted by ThurzNite

Hmm... Why didn't Maxima make the list?
By simply looking at that list, it's obvious why the Maxima isn't on it.

Seriously....
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:34 AM
  #4  
ThurzNite's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,469
Originally Posted by MoncefA33
And I'm 18 yet the my 20AE is a great car for me
Same here. I started with Maximas in 11th grade. And I used to look down on cars on that list (their equivalent for the era when I was a teen).

What's interesting is that list is making a comeback w/the rising gas prices.

Dr J
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:53 AM
  #5  
NisMoN00B's Avatar
+Cru OG
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 29,608
From: Island Hopper
Volvo 240DL ...
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 06:29 PM
  #6  
gnar07's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 63
From: oswego il.
aw man, i knew i shoulda gotten a prius!


im 17, and a new, VERY happy, maxima owner.

better than my old P.O.S. G20.

Last edited by gnar07; Nov 4, 2008 at 06:31 PM.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 06:47 PM
  #7  
mastermechanic5's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 58
From: Fairfield, CT
Originally Posted by gnar07


im 17, and a new, VERY happy, maxima owner.
Me 2 i love my 4th gen pretty fast, good gas mileage, fun to drive, love driving stick and love the sound of my short ram intake
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 01:09 AM
  #8  
Maximus_95's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,535
yeah too fast.... and plus, it handles poorly =)
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 03:10 AM
  #9  
4MySwee's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,499
From: Greer, SC
Actually my teen driver is looking soley into getting a Maxima for her first car.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 03:53 AM
  #10  
JonBlz's Avatar
a.k.a. STuNtMAN
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,381
From: Br00kLyN N.Y.
hmmm lol i had my 99 max since i was 17 always been a nissan guy never a honda guy
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 05:59 AM
  #11  
tigersharkdude's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,006
From: middle TN
i have had a maxima since i was 16 and im fixing to be 20. I do believe my next car will be a 2003 Q45 though
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 06:12 AM
  #12  
dineth00i30's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 700
From: Staten Island,NY
lol shouldnt us be happy that maxima is not on that list?? some of those cars are really not cool and i got my i30/maxima when i was 17 and i didnt abuse it or drive it fast..
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 06:50 AM
  #13  
Bakermax's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 99
From: Chicago Burbs
I would not want my 16 yo driving either of my Max's for her first car. They are too fast for her, she will be driving my wife's 02 Sonata, that's plenty big and plenty slow, which is exactly what a teen driver needs. They don't need anything that will get them thinking they can pull and take corners at speed. Not to mention the fact that is would be a waste of a good max to let some teeny-weeny driver abuse what I consider to be the finest reasonably priced sports sedan on the road. Your first car should be big and slow, a max is neither.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 07:29 AM
  #14  
AM_BlackMax's Avatar
Fox Body FTW
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 12,957
From: DC/MD/VA
was 16 when i got my max will be 18 in a month!

Happy as can be with my max, cuz not many people expect it to have any "bawlz" if you will.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 07:35 AM
  #15  
internetautomar's Avatar
mod or sell?
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,760
From: Skokie (look it up)
it's a C/R list. it ignores many things that they can't/won't quantify.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 08:07 AM
  #16  
jspagna's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 393
From: Connecticut
Ok well I have my daughter who is going to get her license and I am probably going to wait to see how well she drives to begin with. At that point when I decide to give her a car I am considering either my 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 or my wifes 2003 Maxima. I have heard that SUV's are not good for teens, I also know that the Crash Test ratings for the Maxima are better. Then I saw this article and am not sure what to do?The 4Runner happens to be on this list? What do you guys suggest:

http://www.autoextra.com/firstride.php
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 08:33 AM
  #17  
AEMAXIMA01's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,328
From: KC
Well I got my 96 5spd in April of '03 when i was 16. The only reason my parents would let me get it was because we got it CHEAP. They were reluctant because they new it was a 'fast' car for a 16yr old (my dad previously had a '93 max se). I got my 01 AE 5spd in April '07 and I'm now 22, and loving every minute of it!
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 09:02 AM
  #18  
Feldman's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,062
From: Salt Lake City, UT
Originally Posted by jspagna
Ok well I have my daughter who is going to get her license and I am probably going to wait to see how well she drives to begin with. At that point when I decide to give her a car I am considering either my 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 or my wifes 2003 Maxima. I have heard that SUV's are not good for teens, I also know that the Crash Test ratings for the Maxima are better. Then I saw this article and am not sure what to do?The 4Runner happens to be on this list? What do you guys suggest:

http://www.autoextra.com/firstride.php
I say maxima, the speed thing isn't as much of a issues for girls as it is for boys. I would either let her have the max or pick up something else like a subaru... I wouldnt get an suv for any new driver based on their inexperience and the roll over risk
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 09:22 AM
  #19  
gnar07's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 63
From: oswego il.
Originally Posted by JonBlz
always been a nissan guy never a honda guy
you and me both
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 09:36 AM
  #20  
MaxiNone's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,893
From: San Antonio, TeXas
i've have my maxima for almost 2 weeks and it still hasnt grown on me. i feel like a damn soccer mom/grandma when i sit down on the drivers seat. the only thing that impressed me was the performance of the motor (even at 205K miles), but its not the same as my swapped integra

but this wont stop me from modifing the maxima to my taste

Originally Posted by ThurzNite
Hmm... Why didn't Maxima make the list? Too fast?

Dr J
^^^i doubt that, but good thing its not on the list cause then the insurance rate on it would be higher...

Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
By simply looking at that list, it's obvious why the Maxima isn't on it.

Seriously....
^^^IDK if i wasnt in the situation i was in right now, i would of picked an rsx or tsx over a maxima

i'm suprised the altima coupe wasnt on there...
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 09:55 AM
  #21  
silverbeast2004's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 121
From: Torrance, CA
I got my 04 maxima wen i was 16 (paying monthly ofcourse) and im still alive! im 18 now but i will admit that i did do some stupid things with it wen i first had it. really depends on the maturity level of the person.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 11:03 AM
  #22  
Pearl93VE's Avatar
I can has?
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,860
From: St. Augustine, FL
Originally Posted by Bakermax
I would not want my 16 yo driving either of my Max's for her first car. They are too fast for her, she will be driving my wife's 02 Sonata, that's plenty big and plenty slow, which is exactly what a teen driver needs. They don't need anything that will get them thinking they can pull and take corners at speed. Not to mention the fact that is would be a waste of a good max to let some teeny-weeny driver abuse what I consider to be the finest reasonably priced sports sedan on the road. Your first car should be big and slow, a max is neither.
I got my first Max when I was 16, it was a 94' GXE VG30E, granted it's slower than the rest of the newer maximas, I think it was a perfect first car for a 16 year old. It's a sedan so you can cart around friends without being all cramped, got decent gas mileage, easy to work on, dependable, reasonably quick (I need to get out into traffic easily and merge on interstates without having the motor strain to do it) and it was cheap. I instantly fell in love with third gen's so I had to get the 92-94 SE Maxima w/ VE30DE when I turned 17, I knew if I wanted those other same appealing traits, plus a little more power, refinement, and performance options, I would have to upgrade to a VE. So I did, the second car I got was a Maxima.


This was how the car was when I got it, see sig for progress after a year of ownership.

Since then, I've taken care of it like I've never taken care of anything. Modified it, and have done religious routine maintenance to it with obsessive compulsive tendencies.

Point being, Just because someone is young doesn't mean the maxima won't be a good car for them...

Last edited by Pearl93VE; Nov 5, 2008 at 11:05 AM.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 11:16 AM
  #23  
Bakermax's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 99
From: Chicago Burbs
^^Very true, but you obviously appreciat a nice Max, I'm just generalizing, and I'm also thinking of my daughter, she appreciates nothing and will abuse whatever car she has, she is a knucklehead, and so are most of her friends that I know. I would not allow them to have a nice car.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 01:12 PM
  #24  
Bjs470's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,733
From: Chicago, IL
I'd say get the kids a scion tc
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 01:22 PM
  #25  
ThurzNite's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,469
Originally Posted by MaxiNone
^^^i doubt that, but good thing its not on the list cause then the insurance rate on it would be higher...
Isn't it high already on the east coast? I remember seeing Maxima on a top 20 list of stolen cars.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 01:27 PM
  #26  
ChrisMan287's Avatar
Got Retrofit?
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,761
From: NY
I just turned 17 on October 22th. Got 2 Maximas FTW!

Last edited by ChrisMan287; Nov 5, 2008 at 01:46 PM.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 01:37 PM
  #27  
J RO 9's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 435
From: NYC / PA
i got my maxima 2 days before my 17th birthday. my mom thinks its too fast for me. she even saw in my gps that my max speed was 127
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 11:14 PM
  #28  
mymaxi41691's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 281
Originally Posted by J RO 9
i got my maxima 2 days before my 17th birthday. my mom thinks its too fast for me. she even saw in my gps that my max speed was 127

hahahha NICE! was she pissed?

maximas are a mans car. im 17 and i have a 2000 5speed. i love it <3
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 11:50 PM
  #29  
MaximaBuilt4Life7's Avatar
Newbie - Just Registered
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8
So... Why is the Mazda 3 up there? I'm sure it can do 0-60 in under 8 seconds and is a fairly zippy car.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 12:41 AM
  #30  
Niccos89's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 319
From: Perth, Australia
All I have to say to that list is:
hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, thats GOLD.

Rather than spend $20'000 on one of those cars, why not spend a few hundred bucks on an Advanced Driver Training course (whatever everyone calls them), you know the courses that teach you how to control your car in emergency enviroments, loss of traction, quick braking, etc.
I havent done any of those, but driving like an idiot, killing my first car, seing my mates kill their cars and in some cases kill themSELVES has shown me how to drive and how NOT to drive, and that has literally saved my life more than once. not face/chest/groin/legs/feet airbags, ESP, traction control, speed restrictions, etc.

I think the only thing that can protect young drivers, or ANY driver on the roads, is experience and sensibility, not money.

Last edited by Niccos89; Nov 6, 2008 at 12:47 AM.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 06:03 AM
  #31  
baylormax02's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 189
From: houston tx
Originally Posted by ThurzNite
Same here. I started with Maximas in 11th grade. And I used to look down on cars on that list (their equivalent for the era when I was a teen).

What's interesting is that list is making a comeback w/the rising gas prices.

Dr J
gas is $1.86 for reg in several parts of houston. it's shocking. should go up soon again, but it's hardly an issue any more


Electricity on the other hand....
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 06:13 AM
  #32  
pbn85's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,061
From: Bayside, NY
Originally Posted by Craig-O
im gonna be 18 and my old car was a 1992 pontiac grand prix. it was a piece of crap. i love my maxima it is super fast and i love going down to the races in hartford. it rapes everyone except for turbo 350z's dont let your friends be ****s and line up races to make you look like a fool. haha.
Originally Posted by Maximus_95
yeah too fast.... and plus, it handles poorly =)
Originally Posted by Bakermax
I would not want my 16 yo driving either of my Max's for her first car. They are too fast for her, she will be driving my wife's 02 Sonata, that's plenty big and plenty slow, which is exactly what a teen driver needs. They don't need anything that will get them thinking they can pull and take corners at speed. Not to mention the fact that is would be a waste of a good max to let some teeny-weeny driver abuse what I consider to be the finest reasonably priced sports sedan on the road. Your first car should be big and slow, a max is neither.
do you guys seriously think the maxima is a fast car? From a beginner's point of view, maybe. But it seems like you guys are talking about the car being fast in general. I def. do not think so. Quick? Yes. Fast? Eh...

It's also not the smallest car...atleast my 03 is a pretty big car. I always liked smaller cars though...thats why I'm selling.

Not that it matters but my first car was an 01 Honda Prelude 5 speed. I loved that car. It was "fast" when you wanted it to be but otherwise it had just the right amount of power. God I miss that car
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 07:54 AM
  #33  
ThurzNite's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,469
Originally Posted by pbn85
do you guys seriously think the maxima is a fast car? From a beginner's point of view, maybe. But it seems like you guys are talking about the car being fast in general. I def. do not think so. Quick? Yes. Fast? Eh...

It's also not the smallest car...atleast my 03 is a pretty big car. I always liked smaller cars though...thats why I'm selling.

Not that it matters but my first car was an 01 Honda Prelude 5 speed. I loved that car. It was "fast" when you wanted it to be but otherwise it had just the right amount of power. God I miss that car
When I was teaching people how to drive 5sp in my car, each of them said "Whoa, this car is strong!" I dunno about fast, but it's got torque down low, and without LSD, and with torque steer, and a sensitive right pedal, it could get hairy.

But as the poster above said, proper training goes a long way. Those people I taught w/my car walked away wanting to trade their accords and camrys and 3series for a Maxima.

Dr J
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 07:50 AM
  #34  
zero2sixtyZ's Avatar
You embarrass me.
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5,308
From: Malden, MA
I bought my Maxima when I was 18. I had experience from my first car, which was a 03 SE-R, but it really depends on your maturity level and driving experience. The Maxima is a quick car, but it all depends what you compare it to. Compared to higher end cars, not so much, but compared to the majority of what is on the road, it is a quick car.
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 08:12 AM
  #35  
PulsarGTS's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,400
From: Cininnati, OH
glad its not on the list. But Im kinda surprised my old car a Celica GTS isn't on the list too.
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 01:37 PM
  #36  
ThurzNite's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,469
Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ
Compared to higher end cars, not so much, but compared to the majority of what is on the road, it is a quick car.
compared to what a teen is 'supposed' to drive, which's an entry level car. Maxima is 100% not entry level. Sentra is tho.
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 01:40 PM
  #37  
ThurzNite's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,469
Originally Posted by PulsarGTS
But Im kinda surprised my old car a Celica GTS isn't on the list too.
Noooooo. I've seen so many Celica's just past their warranty with peeling paint. No wait would Consumer reports recommend that! LOL.

Ok but really, Celica's transmissions, from what I've seen in forums, have issues. I would not want my kid stranded. That manuals seem to fare better, but there's prob more autos out there.

Dr J

Last edited by ThurzNite; Nov 7, 2008 at 01:44 PM.
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 01:53 PM
  #38  
NmexMAX's Avatar
dot dot dot ...
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 34,576
From: Santa Fe, NM
Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
By simply looking at that list, it's obvious why the Maxima isn't on it.

Seriously....
e^10

QFT,

I mean come'on....Look at the list again...
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 04:08 PM
  #39  
ThurzNite's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,469
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
e^10

QFT,

I mean come'on....Look at the list again...
I'mma take the list down... then what's your argument about Maxima not for teens?
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 06:04 PM
  #40  
2002AltimateV6's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 547
From: Tacoma, WA
I'm surprised the Altima isn't on that list. Sure the 3.5 would be in the same boat as the Maxima, but the 2.5 would be a good option.



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:29 PM.