i was looking at 09 maxima on demand where they do the test drive and crap.
and reliazed the vq30 and vq 35 has been on the wards? ten best engines for years.

why not the vg30?
it's pretty reliable. i have'nt read anyone here who blew out the bottom end.
yea you may get that occasional ticking on start-up.

so what the deal?

 

Ive wondered too, the VG30E engine is even hated on by VE owners, the VG30E was amazing on the 80's 300zx too. my 3rd gen Max with 413k has the original VG30E with no problems ever, amazing engine that has never let me down

Cool thing is the VG30E is mentioned on the arcade game Maximum Tune 2 (AKA Wangan Midnight). The guy with the white '85 300zx says "The VG engine is controlled by the latest computer". random fact. lol

 

yea ve owners do tend to hate.
me being a past ve owner.
when i had my ve i thought damn pretty nice and wat not.
but then once i raced john against his white vg30 with more miles than my ve. he beat me.

but the more i got to know the vg the more i realized these engines are pretty damn good.
just needs a lil help on the top end.

but someone has to have the answer why the vg did'nt make 10 best.

 

so you think they should go back about 15 years and change that?

It didn't get the award, ward's doesn't really mean crap any way (its all politics) get over it

 

damn i'm not *****ing about it i'm just wondering.
i'm not saying they should go back and change it either.

so please ****ing forgive me for trying to gain some knowledge on something i'm intrested in.

 

whats to understand, they picked other engines

 

FINALLY I GOT AN UNDERSTANDING!!!
colombianmax explained that wards came out in 95.
so instead of being a smartass and telling me to get over it.

 

 

:FAIL:

 

my VG broke a crankshaft sitting at a traffic light
not a fan

 

VG Fail

 

not enough volumetric efficiency due to too low of a CR for a n/a motor and only 2v/cyl, the fact that it's a belt-timed interference motor, and the fact that Ward's wasn't around back then. It was made to be boosted. Normally aspirated, it's nothing to get excited about. Considering the z32na motor (VG30DE) made 65hp MORE than the VG30E (and 20hp more than the VG30ET) with just VTCs and DOHC without the compactness compromises required by the VE...

the only reason my z is getting a VG30E is because i had one sitting around waiting to be used, and i don't currently have the fabrication skills needed to get a VQ35 setup to work without major problems.

/thread

 

number of valves doesnt mean a thing
its all the other problems

 

or the fact that the OP couldn't google Ward's engine list to find out that it only started in '95 and that he can't understand that its all about politics when it comes to those picks to beging with....and that he can't change history. (seems to be hard at grasping that one)

 

it matters on a small engine like a 3.0.... try making a 3.0L 12v pushrod v6 that makes as much torque through as broad of an RPM range as the VQ30 while still getting good fuel economy. Cams and higher CR might be able to satisfy some of those goals, but you can pull the same tricks on the VQ30 as well and be ahead of the game again.

besides if it didn't matter how do you explain the 65hp increase between VG30E and VG30DE? VTCs alone can't give you a 37%+ gain like that...

 

again VG fail

 

stfu you and your whiny-**** supercharger...

 

I pass many VGs and VQ30s and VQ35 6sps with this thing

 

Dude perhaps YOU should've googled before coming on here and babbling your bull**** too. So you're not a fan, ok that's fine. The fact that YOU asked if he wanted them to go back shows that YOU shouldn't even be in here aswering the damn question. You asking him if he wants them to go back 15 years show's you didn't know Ward's wasn't around back then.

 

sc whine >>>> lifter noise

 

That just means it delivers more power to the battery, it super charges it

 

why fret about the past...i don't care for wards....its all politics

This thread was completely pointless like your post

 

Then why even bother posting in it? This is the part where you Fail for even coming back in here and replying ONCE again. lol I'm out.

 

frankly if you didn't it would be utterly pathetic. more displacement AND forced induction?

not to mention i can "pass" any fast car on the street if they're going 45 and i'm going 46.

 

 

I see you keep coming back and responding as well...I figure I might as well make you happy

 

 

surprising what engineers can do with 7 years... some people may have overlooked the fact that the VG30E engine was introduced in the mid-80's with the introduction of the z31 and the U11 maxima(where things like SOHC engines were commonplace)? I would think that if it were around during those times(80's) it may have been on the list, or at least in the running. It was definitely a powerful enough engine for its time in the market niche that nissan was trying to get itself into(luxury sedan, against bmw, and other manufacturers)

 

Cast iron block=Auto fail

 

not if its a blown 408

 

yea but it was already 11 years old at that point. not bad for 1984, but nowhere near good enough for 1995. and yea i know about the z31 haha, i have an 85 that i'm putting an VG in soon... too bad i don't have a turbo to go on it.

 

Thats double fail cuz of the increase in poor gas mileage.
Now, had you said an Aluminum 502 that was blown, i might consider that less sucky.

 

Why does an iron block suck? Just because it's heavy?

 

thanks colombianmax and caped. i did search on wikipedia while colombian was telling me.

and yea i did grasp the situation. if i really did'nt grasp the situation i would've been *****in asking how come they did'nt give the nissan vh45de a wards 10 best.

i mean i dooged this car...and she still kept running like a champ from the 1st day i got her.

my pontiac grand am gt 3100V6...HA HA. car had less miles on her and she had problems up the ***!.
my beretta gtz 3.1 v6 same thing problems up the ***.
my pontiac grand prix se 3.1...(gasp) same problem.

oh and we cant forget the wrist pin knocking. headgasket blowing. camshaft breaking. that these lovely gm cars produced

 

stop buying the ****ty GMs

 

lol. thats one of the reasons why i went to nissan.
my dad always owned nissan and they gave him HARDLY any problems.

 

i had plenty of problems with all the cars i've owned

 

man i can can give you a list of all the car's i've owned.lol.

 

so can i

 

or an RB25/26.