I feel like I'm cheating on You guys, and My Max
12-12-2001, 10:11 AM
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I feel like I'm cheating on You guys, and My Max
EEEEK ... U guys gotta Help me 
... Talk some Sense into me and talk me out of this.
YES I do love my Max, and All ... BUT ...
Recently ... my mind has wandered off to the new "ACURA 3.2 TL-Type S" BUT ... ONLY in "Diamond Pearl White" with Factory "Body Kit"
I've seen a Few and they are Sooooooo Lovely!!!
I went to the dealer recently, and I don't like them in Any other color, or without the body kit.
I've been also pondering about how to trade my Max in for one!
HELP PEOPLE
... Talk some Sense into me and talk me out of this.YES I do love my Max, and All ... BUT ...
Recently ... my mind has wandered off to the new "ACURA 3.2 TL-Type S" BUT ... ONLY in "Diamond Pearl White" with Factory "Body Kit"
I've seen a Few and they are Sooooooo Lovely!!!
I went to the dealer recently, and I don't like them in Any other color, or without the body kit.
I've been also pondering about how to trade my Max in for one!
HELP PEOPLE
12-12-2001, 10:15 AM
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Yeah they are very nice, especially the electric blue/red metallics. Looks like they put alot of candy addtives in the color. Very cool.
But honestly? This car(however nice) is not worth taking the hit(resale) for. If you got a deal on let's say an used S4, then yes. The power/awd/turbos is worth trading up for.
The TL-S, is almost trading sideways.
But honestly? This car(however nice) is not worth taking the hit(resale) for. If you got a deal on let's say an used S4, then yes. The power/awd/turbos is worth trading up for.
The TL-S, is almost trading sideways.
12-12-2001, 10:36 AM
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I think that Acura is a very nice, well refined car. It's got some very nice features. The 4 wheel independent suspension setup is the way to go. My old Prelude had the 4 wheel double wishbone setup. Man that car was glued to the road. That is probably the MOST hated thing about the 4th gen Maxima - the mini van rear suspension setup.
I think that color looks great. Go treat yourself to a new car!
I'll keep my maxima for a while, but will probably revert back to Honda Motor Company cars again. They build excellent cars!
I think that color looks great. Go treat yourself to a new car!
I'll keep my maxima for a while, but will probably revert back to Honda Motor Company cars again. They build excellent cars!
12-12-2001, 10:49 AM
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Yeah ... but I Already have a NEW Car ... my Max is a 2001 AE/SE ... its only a Year new!
Originally posted by njmaxseltd
I think that Acura is a very nice, well refined car. It's got some very nice features. The 4 wheel independent suspension setup is the way to go. My old Prelude had the 4 wheel double wishbone setup. Man that car was glued to the road. That is probably the MOST hated thing about the 4th gen Maxima - the mini van rear suspension setup.
I think that color looks great. Go treat yourself to a new car!
I'll keep my maxima for a while, but will probably revert back to Honda Motor Company cars again. They build excellent cars!
I think that Acura is a very nice, well refined car. It's got some very nice features. The 4 wheel independent suspension setup is the way to go. My old Prelude had the 4 wheel double wishbone setup. Man that car was glued to the road. That is probably the MOST hated thing about the 4th gen Maxima - the mini van rear suspension setup.
I think that color looks great. Go treat yourself to a new car!
I'll keep my maxima for a while, but will probably revert back to Honda Motor Company cars again. They build excellent cars!
12-12-2001, 10:54 AM
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Re: I feel like I'm cheating on You guys, and My Max
yeah recently I started to like the TL-s as well...eventhough its a 5spd auto stick the styling is great and 260hp kicks ***! I've heard "rumors" of some tranny probs, but nothing concrete...still if I had money and was going to buy a newer car this year it would be between the TL-s and the IS300......and check this out, man this is sweet!-->
12-12-2001, 11:02 AM
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What ever you do don't lease the car. My father leased one, and at 12K miles it requires a front wheel alignement, as well as other things, cost almost $600. Up until my 90K service on my max, i had spent less than that on service. And if you don't do everything in the service, they can void your lease.
12-12-2001, 12:14 PM
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Do it, do it...I did. You will be happy!!
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With better tires, and turn VSA off, the car is very fast! Much faster than my friends GTP! Headers only, the car will make 300HP at the crank, no joke!
http://www.mnbmotorsports.com/images...r-side-gfx.jpg
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With better tires, and turn VSA off, the car is very fast! Much faster than my friends GTP! Headers only, the car will make 300HP at the crank, no joke!
12-12-2001, 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by TexMaximum
Do it, do it...I did. You will be happy!!
http://www.mnbmotorsports.com/images...r-side-gfx.jpg
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With better tires, and turn VSA off, the car is very fast! Much faster than my friends GTP! Headers only, the car will make 300HP at the crank, no joke!
Do it, do it...I did. You will be happy!!
http://www.mnbmotorsports.com/images...r-side-gfx.jpg
http://www.mnbmotorsports.com/images...badge-tips.jpg
With better tires, and turn VSA off, the car is very fast! Much faster than my friends GTP! Headers only, the car will make 300HP at the crank, no joke!
The TL-S will cost more to begin with. The headers are 1K US plus install. Body kit is another 1KUS+. If you like to drive manual tranny the 6spd 2k2 max is the way to go! If you want a auto tranny even the new 2k2 Max is as fast as the TL-S. Bottomline the TL-S is going to cost you a lot more in the end! I personally like the look of a 5th gen max lowered with 18's and stillen body kit over the TL-s lower/kit/18's.
12-12-2001, 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by TexMaximum
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12-12-2001, 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by Autobahn Max
Yes, I am also am getting BMW bug, an E46 wagon. A stock wagon that handles better than the modded Maxima! (But not as quick)
Yes, I am also am getting BMW bug, an E46 wagon. A stock wagon that handles better than the modded Maxima! (But not as quick)
12-12-2001, 01:27 PM
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TL-S is a sweet ride. If I did not put a down payment on the M3, I would be looking at the TLS with body kit.
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Originally posted by SprintMax
if i was getting an AUTO .. i would buy a TL-S.. but i don't do auto's so maxima it is
if i was getting an AUTO .. i would buy a TL-S.. but i don't do auto's so maxima it is
12-12-2001, 01:36 PM
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Do you know what your talking about? The auto tranny 02 Maxima is NOT faster then a TL-S. Trust me, I assure you with real world attempts.
A stock 02 6spd is not "much" faster than a TL-S stock. Yes you can beat it, but you better be consistent and a motor trend great driver. Its faster, but not much. 6spd is not faster than one with headers (26fwhp added) I have tried it. Though then you have the stock Vrs moded argument.
Turn VSA off, get better tires then the all weather MMX4, headers, and a CAI, you will be shocked. The TL-S can brake into 14's stock, and can run to 60 in 6.6 stock, all with the comfort of a sport shift. There is also an RES intake manifold mod coming out of 15HP to the wheels and much more aftermarket support.
Here is the point, they are not night and day in terms of speed and performance. If you just want the fastest car for the money, neither of these should be your choice anyhow. The Maxima does not have IND rear, and less quality, yet the TL-S is more costly and a bit slower than the 6spd Maxima. However, the 02 is a one year makeshift model, what happens to your value and performance when the 03 Max is out?
I'm not a mMaxima hater or TL troll here, I have had 3, and the TL has several strengths that will appeal to some buyers more than other, and one was style that will age with grace, and doesn't upset anyone, unlike the Maxima, lovit or hate it. If and when they go RWD, use better interior materials, and keep the bargin price and high HP, the Maxima will be king!!! Nissan, please just don't make it even heavier!
A stock 02 6spd is not "much" faster than a TL-S stock. Yes you can beat it, but you better be consistent and a motor trend great driver. Its faster, but not much. 6spd is not faster than one with headers (26fwhp added) I have tried it. Though then you have the stock Vrs moded argument.
Turn VSA off, get better tires then the all weather MMX4, headers, and a CAI, you will be shocked. The TL-S can brake into 14's stock, and can run to 60 in 6.6 stock, all with the comfort of a sport shift. There is also an RES intake manifold mod coming out of 15HP to the wheels and much more aftermarket support.
Here is the point, they are not night and day in terms of speed and performance. If you just want the fastest car for the money, neither of these should be your choice anyhow. The Maxima does not have IND rear, and less quality, yet the TL-S is more costly and a bit slower than the 6spd Maxima. However, the 02 is a one year makeshift model, what happens to your value and performance when the 03 Max is out?
I'm not a mMaxima hater or TL troll here, I have had 3, and the TL has several strengths that will appeal to some buyers more than other, and one was style that will age with grace, and doesn't upset anyone, unlike the Maxima, lovit or hate it. If and when they go RWD, use better interior materials, and keep the bargin price and high HP, the Maxima will be king!!! Nissan, please just don't make it even heavier!
12-12-2001, 01:46 PM
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A 6spd Max is significatly faster than a TL-S. Actually the 6spd would destroy it off the line. 1/4 mile and especially on the highway. The 2K2 auto max is as fast as a TL-S stock for stock. Proven by a 14.7 by a .org member with a stock 2k2 auto max.
I have driven a modded 6spd Max (intake) and trust me it would smoke a lot of cars easy let alone a TL-S without a doubt!
I have driven a modded 6spd Max (intake) and trust me it would smoke a lot of cars easy let alone a TL-S without a doubt!
12-12-2001, 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
A 6spd Max is significatly faster than a TL-S. Actually the 6spd would destroy it off the line. 1/4 mile and especially on the highway. The 2K2 auto max is as fast as a TL-S stock for stock. Proven by a 14.7 by a .org member with a stock 2k2 auto max.
I have driven a modded 6spd Max (intake) and trust me it would smoke a lot of cars easy let alone a TL-S without a doubt!
A 6spd Max is significatly faster than a TL-S. Actually the 6spd would destroy it off the line. 1/4 mile and especially on the highway. The 2K2 auto max is as fast as a TL-S stock for stock. Proven by a 14.7 by a .org member with a stock 2k2 auto max.
I have driven a modded 6spd Max (intake) and trust me it would smoke a lot of cars easy let alone a TL-S without a doubt!
*cough*backed it up with a 14.6*cough*
12-12-2001, 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
There you go the 2k2 auto max did a 14.6 stock! I haven't heard of a TL-S in stock form doing 14.6 in the real world.
There you go the 2k2 auto max did a 14.6 stock! I haven't heard of a TL-S in stock form doing 14.6 in the real world.
yeah and a GLE at that.. imagine the GXE
oh TL-S will run low 14's
on g-tech maybe
12-12-2001, 01:55 PM
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Do it, if this is what you want go for it & u have th e$$$ $40k + tax man while yr maxima is probably worth like $30000~ now, but do you really want another automatic? if yes then this might be the car for you.
12-12-2001, 02:05 PM
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when do you get ET times in the real world, aka on the street? I didn't know local streets had ET meters?
TL is still a better car overall, and I figure you missed my point on if you just want the fastest? I have a car that cost less than your Maxima and will hand its a$$ to it on a platter? But you were ovisously not looking for the FASTEST for the best price.
I'm saying if your looking for a quick sedan, nice style and features at a leading price, the TL-S is a good buy. If you don't want to or can't afford the higher price, want something slightly faster, must have a 6spd, less quality, out date mini van rear, 1 year model, worse resell, quirky styling, huge Nissan badged car, ok then.
Here is another shot of the type-S and stainless steal tips.
http://www.mnbmotorsports.com/images.../badge&tip.jpg
BTW, factory backed comptech super charger should be nice. I was getting sick of Stealing, uh, I mean stillen
TL is still a better car overall, and I figure you missed my point on if you just want the fastest? I have a car that cost less than your Maxima and will hand its a$$ to it on a platter? But you were ovisously not looking for the FASTEST for the best price.
I'm saying if your looking for a quick sedan, nice style and features at a leading price, the TL-S is a good buy. If you don't want to or can't afford the higher price, want something slightly faster, must have a 6spd, less quality, out date mini van rear, 1 year model, worse resell, quirky styling, huge Nissan badged car, ok then.
Here is another shot of the type-S and stainless steal tips.
http://www.mnbmotorsports.com/images.../badge&tip.jpg
BTW, factory backed comptech super charger should be nice. I was getting sick of Stealing, uh, I mean stillen
12-12-2001, 02:10 PM
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Question is, is it $xxxx better than his 1 year old Maxima now? If it just a car purchase TL-S vs Maxima, it might be different. But he will lose thousands on the maxima and have to pay full retail for the TL-S. So the cost is whatever price the TL-S is + the depreciation hit on the Maxima on the resale.
Originally posted by TexMaximum
when do you get ET times in the real world, aka on the street? I didn't know local streets had ET meters?
TL is still a better car overall, and I figure you missed my point on if you just want the fastest? I have a car that cost less than your Maxima and will hand its a$$ to it on a platter? But you were ovisously not looking for the FASTEST for the best price.
I'm saying if your looking for a quick sedan, nice style and features at a leading price, the TL-S is a good buy. If you don't want to or can't afford the higher price, want something slightly faster, must have a 6spd, less quality, out date mini van rear, 1 year model, worse resell, quirky styling, huge Nissan badged car, ok then.
Here is another shot of the type-S and stainless steal tips.
http://www.mnbmotorsports.com/images.../badge&tip.jpg
BTW, factory backed comptech super charger should be nice. I was getting sick of Stealing, uh, I mean stillen
when do you get ET times in the real world, aka on the street? I didn't know local streets had ET meters?
TL is still a better car overall, and I figure you missed my point on if you just want the fastest? I have a car that cost less than your Maxima and will hand its a$$ to it on a platter? But you were ovisously not looking for the FASTEST for the best price.
I'm saying if your looking for a quick sedan, nice style and features at a leading price, the TL-S is a good buy. If you don't want to or can't afford the higher price, want something slightly faster, must have a 6spd, less quality, out date mini van rear, 1 year model, worse resell, quirky styling, huge Nissan badged car, ok then.
Here is another shot of the type-S and stainless steal tips.
http://www.mnbmotorsports.com/images.../badge&tip.jpg
BTW, factory backed comptech super charger should be nice. I was getting sick of Stealing, uh, I mean stillen
12-12-2001, 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by TexMaximum
ALso, you can get one fully loaded for $33K Not 40K plus tax. If you don't want the navi, as low as 30 to 31K If you want a good price, get your best offer from your dealer, then tell me.
ALso, you can get one fully loaded for $33K Not 40K plus tax. If you don't want the navi, as low as 30 to 31K If you want a good price, get your best offer from your dealer, then tell me.
http://english.acuracanada.ca/models...et.asp?Trim=21
12-12-2001, 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
Empz, Costco and myself all live in Canada (damn we need a Canadian Forum on the .org!!).
Empz, Costco and myself all live in Canada (damn we need a Canadian Forum on the .org!!).
you mention that everytime you post , maybe jambo can rename yr status like sprint max to "I AM CANADIAN & WE NEED A CANADIAN FORUM!"
12-12-2001, 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by AndyXXL
I was going to get a CL-S next spring until I got another better idea
I was going to get a CL-S next spring until I got another better idea
12-13-2001, 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by costcowholesale
you mention that everytime you post , maybe jambo can rename yr status like sprint max to "I AM CANADIAN & WE NEED A CANADIAN FORUM!"
you mention that everytime you post , maybe jambo can rename yr status like sprint max to "I AM CANADIAN & WE NEED A CANADIAN FORUM!"
12-13-2001, 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by nodoubt711
i do believe well i heard a rumor on the cl type s forum that it will have a manuel version next year and i think the tl type s will have it too
just something to think about
i do believe well i heard a rumor on the cl type s forum that it will have a manuel version next year and i think the tl type s will have it too
just something to think about
12-13-2001, 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by AndyXXL
I used to post there for a while, and no one actually knows when CL-S will get a 6-speed...it's just a rumor.
I used to post there for a while, and no one actually knows when CL-S will get a 6-speed...it's just a rumor.
Acura is now accepting orders for the 6 speed manual CL-S.
A guy over just ordered one, and he scanned in his order form.
It's supposedly going to be a limited production run that will
be released in March or April of 2002. The HP will also be
bumped up from 260 to 280.
I need a car within the next two months or so, so I can't wait
for the 6spd CL-S (the IRS was the deciding factor), BUT I've
ordered my 6spd HLSD Max and I'm really happy with it! Looking
forward to the early February delivery date!
The top four cars on my list are:
(1) M5
(2) 540i, 6spd
(3) M3, 6spd
(4) S4, 6spd
12-13-2001, 01:38 PM
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Re: I feel like I'm cheating on You guys, and My Max
I know what you mean. I have one just like it except it's metallic
blue and have a rear spoiler on it as well as side skirts, front
airdam, and rear valiance. But, I still drive my 87 Max as a daily
driver while I drive my TL Type-S on weekends.
Go ahead and get it man!!!! It won't change you at all. I don't
subscribe to the TL forum as I think those guys are idiots and
don't know what the hell they're talking about. I still like the
max forum and probably would never leave even if I sell my max down
the road "IF".
mike
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Empz
[B]EEEEK ... U guys gotta Help me... Talk some Sense into me and talk me out of this.
YES I do love my Max, and All ... BUT ...
Recently ... my mind has wandered off to the new "ACURA 3.2 TL-Type S" BUT ... ONLY in "Diamond Pearl White" with Factory "Body Kit"
blue and have a rear spoiler on it as well as side skirts, front
airdam, and rear valiance. But, I still drive my 87 Max as a daily
driver while I drive my TL Type-S on weekends.
Go ahead and get it man!!!! It won't change you at all. I don't
subscribe to the TL forum as I think those guys are idiots and
don't know what the hell they're talking about. I still like the
max forum and probably would never leave even if I sell my max down
the road "IF".
mike
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Empz
[B]EEEEK ... U guys gotta Help me
... Talk some Sense into me and talk me out of this.YES I do love my Max, and All ... BUT ...
Recently ... my mind has wandered off to the new "ACURA 3.2 TL-Type S" BUT ... ONLY in "Diamond Pearl White" with Factory "Body Kit"
12-13-2001, 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by vmax8
Check their forums again!
Acura is now accepting orders for the 6 speed manual CL-S.
A guy over just ordered one, and he scanned in his order form.
It's supposedly going to be a limited production run that will
be released in March or April of 2002. The HP will also be
bumped up from 260 to 280.
I need a car within the next two months or so, so I can't wait
for the 6spd CL-S (the IRS was the deciding factor), BUT I've
ordered my 6spd HLSD Max and I'm really happy with it! Looking
forward to the early February delivery date!
The top four cars on my list are:
(1) M5
(2) 540i, 6spd
(3) M3, 6spd
(4) S4, 6spd
Check their forums again!
Acura is now accepting orders for the 6 speed manual CL-S.
A guy over just ordered one, and he scanned in his order form.
It's supposedly going to be a limited production run that will
be released in March or April of 2002. The HP will also be
bumped up from 260 to 280.
I need a car within the next two months or so, so I can't wait
for the 6spd CL-S (the IRS was the deciding factor), BUT I've
ordered my 6spd HLSD Max and I'm really happy with it! Looking
forward to the early February delivery date!
The top four cars on my list are:
(1) M5
(2) 540i, 6spd
(3) M3, 6spd
(4) S4, 6spd
12-13-2001, 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by vmax8
The top four cars on my list are:
(1) M5
(2) 540i, 6spd
(3) M3, 6spd
(4) S4, 6spd
The top four cars on my list are:
(1) M5
(2) 540i, 6spd
(3) M3, 6spd
(4) S4, 6spd
The new maxima is a little to big for my liking, and I don't care if it doesn't sit 4 comfortably, then people won't want to drive with me... oh wait, that's already the case