So I was out runnin tonight, and see this guy getting off my exit. We went on down the road.. its a modded black eclipse, first thing i notice are the stupid taillights and greddy exhaust. We rolled for a minute then went from around 40-100. Dead even till top of 3rd gear, then from there into 4th I would pull a lot. After a couple more runs, showing that we were about even till top of 3rd, I pulled over with him following. We get out, and it is a nice kid... he has 18" white adr rims, verry low.. eibach pro limited something?, greddy exhaust, and 16G turbo upgrade! also, 3" downpipe (made it sound like an airplane when we would run, sooo loud over my intake...) He was SHOCKED. Ricey as it is, I have a GTR emblem, and he said he was so tired at first he thought it was a skyline haha(he didnt realize that he thought that b/c of my emblem.. he didnt notice it when we were parked haha).. he was blown away. He was running a little over 220hp at the time, and with his control 250hp. So we talked for a few (I'm getting a job the same place he works).. and we decided to line it up. It was BARELY raining enough to make a launch harder for me, but the roads still dry and safe. We were on a 4lane road at 2:30am, no one was out. Straight as ever, so dont everyone flame me.. it was also in a non-busy area.. We lined up, and ran.. he had MAAASIVE allwheel burnout, and I waited for him to stop spinning before I launched... once he finally locked up and I was moving, I pulled a car on him in first. 2nd was about even, 3rd was about even (we would both go back and forth) but he had to shift barely before me into 4th, and everytime, whenI would bewinding out 3rd, and once I got into 4th I would start walking him bad. I was SUPER impressed! !! ! and so was he, basically he was shocked !

It was some good runs for the night (I had a new alternator and starter put in today.. serious $ and i still have starter proplems. this made me remember why I keep this car.

 

he needs to tune his car BAD...a 16G turbo in a DSM with bolt-ons can run high 12s......good kill though.

 

that's what i was thinking. but high 12s is tough. maybe low 13's

 

they run low 13's BUT.. they have huge lag.. and if you keep catching them at the right RPM's you can smoke them easily.. especially the 2nd Gen DSM's...

when delio and i were visiting Austin, TX .. we hung out with some friends.. one of which had a 2nd Gen Eclipse with a 20G turbo.. and i had an 2000 AUTO GXE Maxima as a rental car (yes i am maxima obbessed) and due to the turbo lag.. i kept up with him on the highway real easily.. by the time the turbo spooled... we would hit traffic.. and it was too late..

 

a filter 16g downpipe and catback without boost conrtol on a GSX will get you mid 13s no doubt about it,i think this guys driving should be brought into questioning,and ive owed 2 diamond stars,an awd and a fwd,they do lag,but that 4000-7000 range is deadly,i been in a 12 sec camaro and a 12 sec eclipse,when the turbo spools up at full boost,it keeps you securely in your seat,unlike the camaro

 

What mods do you have? I know you used to be an auto, but now have a 5spd due to the swap. If that was tuned properly, you shouldn't be able to beat him. I'm not doubting your story, good kill nevertheless.

 

some of you are just retards when it comes to dsm's

a big 16g turbo. fully ported and clipped {like the one on my car} will push a gsx well into the 11's


the guy needs to tune that gsx.

 

calling me a retard squishy?

 

you should know enough about me now not to take me seriously.

 

 

:P

 

 

good match?
what?
that made no sense to me.

a 16g dsm should romp on the max IF tuned right.
if not, who knows what will happen

 

depends on what you want to do with the car

id say a big 16g would be fine for it.
about 6-8 psi would put it up there in the hp range

the big 16g can do over 400 hp if tuned right

 

he was running stock psi (9lbs) b/c he hadn't hooked up the boost control, and said there was some issue with the 3" downpipe. I didn't know they were that fast, but I will be seeing the kid again maybe tonight I can get pics or maaaaybe video if I can figure out how to hook it up to my computer. I was impressed when he could burn all 4 tires for a long time.... but I didn't realize that a 16g was so good, I wonder what times I run. I don't have very many mods, nothing big... but a friend of mine has a typeR that ran a 14.8 and i can hand it to him in the 1/4 (he can pull back on me over 100).. so I wonder what I am running.

 

well ive been a member on dsmtalk.com (dsmforum) for a while now,since i guess '99 and have more post there then here i was into them and owned them for 2 years prior to having a maxima,but realisticly you need a lot of mods inc. front mount intercooler and some type of good engine management to get 11's out of a 16g

 

BTW the first gen DSM runs @ 11psi stock and the 2nd gen is slightly higher

 

then I guess he was retarded b/c he quoted me 9psi for stock.

 

its like a lot of people with maximas,some people really just dont know what they got,dsms can easlily be beasts

 

uhhh very interesting thread

u sure he has 16g turbo? if he does then he probably cant drive.

those things runs mid 12's and maxima runs 14's. this does not make sense. sorry for not believeing u buddy, its just too much for me to handle.


but if this is true, good kill

 

A typical 16G does NOT run mid 12s. A big 16G tuned well and running lots of boost will, but typical 16G DSMs run 13s. I know 4 guys with 16Gs. One runs 12.8s at 113-114 mph in a FWD Laser. He has a 16G ported polished and clipped, running 19 psi. The rest of the guys I know with 16Gs are running mid 13s. A FWD running 13.7s (which ironically is a tenth slower than he ran with his 14B, he needs more fuel flow.) And two AWDs that run 13.2s and 13.3s respectively.

 

i dont know much about eclipse but one of friend is getting a level 2 turbo on his gsx AWD this summer, well see how he runs...


nealoc: well, even the 16G here runs 13's, its still alot faster and has more HP and torque than the maxima. unless this maxima has s/c or nos, he has no chance.

 

That's very true.

 

hehe that dude cant drive

 

hmm.. maybe on a first gen
pushin a 2nd gen with a big16G setup would take lots of tuning
and really good driving skills...

Ant

 

Thankyou Ant.. obviously his driving skill off the line was either pathetic or he was showing off(and it worked..) by spinning all 4 badly, but I waited till he locked up before I ran with him... It was a '99, and he hasnt had all the tuning and stuff he wants (he doesnt even have boost control like I stated in my first post... he is just gettin started with his crap..),
I'm not making this up, I guess now I REALLY need to get to the track to see what I can run .. If I can figure out how to do video on here, I will get some video of us running..

 

nice kill. BTW, what does DSM stand for? Sorry, newb question, but I don't know much about Mitsubishis.

 

DSM = Diamond Star motors

hlh : they guy with the DSM is either a having a very bad day with his car or he's an idiot..

a 2nd gen with a 14B turbo will run 12.8 if tuned properly and with all the corresponding mods.. and a kickass driver.. and guys on this BBS have seen it for the nonbeliever.. my cousin at Island ran 13.1 without a CAS mod to advance timing and he still could have leaned out his fuel on the AFC a litttle more..

that guy is pushin 9 psi of boost ?
and he doesn't have a Boost controller ?
it seems as though nothing on his car is working .. if thas the case yes you will be him .. otherwise i'm sorry man but you have no chance if that car is running properly and up to spec ..

a 99GSX with big16G should run 12.2 ish .. with a highly skilled driver ..

all these DSM disscussion with people who know next to nothing about DSM's .. Bryan H i know you know your stuff..

go to www.dsmtalk.com
spend a few days there reading then question the power of DSM's

thank you .. have a nice day

Ant

 

yes i love DSM with a good driver they are very fast. if only they were reliable i might have gotten one as a second car.

 

haha, sounds like my friend with a contour svt... he told me that he beat a WS6 a few days ago..then he went ahead to tell me they were racing to 60, and the ws6 had tirespin almost the whole time haha

 

Reminded me of Sprint's post on a Prelude board about him racing a Prelude. He totally killed that Prelude. Although, the Prelude was park in a lot at the time.

 

IF you know how to maintain the car, then they are reliabe...
I know of DSM's that get beat on day and night and never break ..

Ant

 

yeah they deleted it

 

Damn, i should sell out and get an ugly DSM soon.

 

ya you have to be very meticulous and have a little luck to drive a 12/13 sec DSM without breaking stuff.

 

wut do you have on your car?? NOS?? or N/A?
man, i just got a DSM, i am running about 17.4lb of boost rite now, with a Small 14g turbo, and stock everything, not even a K&N, but that car pulls! i have enough cofidence that i can pull on a N/A maxima. there must be something wrong with the eclips. like wut dmbmaxima88 said "that should be a low 13second car~"

 

dude can't drive!!!!! my boy's 2g Eclipse GST is on the stock turbo w/ a "few" mods and so far its runing a 13.8-13.9 I ran a 13.99 in it a few weeks back after we added some mods and did some DIY mods as well...they included....Braushur downpipe, Catco cat, RRE upper pipes, Greddy BOV, BCS restriction removal...he previously had the Turbo XS BC turned up to 13psi(since we removed the BCS restruction too high might lead to detonation so 13 is good enough) and also had a cheapo APC cone filter, but that was good enough for me to run a 13.99 and him a 13.8--.....I swear if those POS Mitsus were reliable I'd be driving one RIGHT now!!!!!!! HOT DAMN THAT CAR IS THE ****!!!!!!!

BOOST OWNZ ALL!!!!!!!

heres my slip, man thats the fastest I've ever driven at the track!!!!-->
http://a7.cpimg.com/image/55/B8/7029...-01C30200-.jpg

 

DSMtalk is ok for minor things
the talon digest is much better

a 2g gsx with the supporting mods. FMIC is not a supporting mod for 11's

you can run 11's on the stock sidemount

i have a engine management system.

i do know quite a bit about dsm's in general.

i do know what im talking about
for some people not believeing me on the 11's i suggest calling SSTracing in omaha and talk to mike first...

id list my mods but i don't feel the need to take up an entire page
if you want mods. PM me.

11.83@118
stock ic
big 16g fully ported and clipped
26 psi
112 octane
race map
1.53 60ft on street tires
full interior and system

 

Is no one hearing me? He has just started modding, and he doesnt even have boost control. It is tuned exactly right yet or any of that would be my guess, .. and he isn't a pro-circuit car&driver driver who can pull the best possible time. Are you trying to compare your 11.83sec eclipse to the one I raced to prove a point? sorry but if you are that is retarded, if you arent dont take it personally. you said yourself your mods would take up a whole page, the guy I raced had just had a 16g, 3" downpipe and greddy exhaust, with no tuning or anything.... a little difference from "big 16g fully ported and clipped" etc etc etc, .. oh well,

I didnt say he was a 11second car, he is obviously somewhere in the 14's.. oh well, if I figure out how to do video I'll post. later -

(if you werent trying to compare your car to his to show me up, dont sweat this haha, not trying to start a flame war.. just seems like every person on here quotes 11,12,or 13sec eclipses that have been pimped out and are in magazines and stuff "once, I read in a magazine about this 16g eclipse that ran 13s!!", this isnt a magazine guys, this is real life the guy wasnt done modding or tuning hehe... I dont think it is THAT crazy to think I could beat him, but whatever, carry on

 

i am ante95se's cousin. i drive and mod a 95 gsx. it is very possible for a maxima to take out a 16G dsm. especially at only 9lbs. but when he turns it up to 17-20lbs, he make make easy work out of just about every freakin maxima on this site. not bashin the maxima, i lovem. but just dont get in over your head.

btw, bryan h, if you saw him do an "almighty 4wd burnout", it must have been too late in the night for you. even 10sec dsm's with ****ty tires can blaze 1st gear and still be moving ahead fast enough to hit a 1.7 60ft. i did this myself. i have ****ty tires right now and i had all 4 wheels spinning in all of 1st, and still hit 1.7 60 footer. with good tires i'll be hit 1.6's. and the mere fact that you "let him finish his almighty 4wd burnout, and then you launced your fwd maxima, is pure BULL****". even if he did spin 1st gear, he would be bus lengths ahead of you. then because of his low boost level and lack of tuning, and downpipe probs, would you catch him. not bashing your car, just telling you how it is.