4th Gen. vs. 5th Gen. vs. 2002 Build Quality...
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4th Gen. vs. 5th Gen. vs. 2002 Build Quality...
Well, it is a given that the build quality of the 3rd. Gen is superior to that of the 4th Gen. However, I'm curious to know if Nissan took further cost cutting measures in the 5th Gen. Is the 5th Gen. built better than the 4th Gen. Maxima is? Also, how does the build quality of the new 2002 Maximas compare to the 4th Gen. Maximas?
Later,
-Nick
Later,
-Nick
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Re: 4th Gen. vs. 5th Gen. vs. 2002 Build Quality...
Originally posted by Nick97SE
Well, it is a given that the build quality of the 3rd. Gen is superior to that of the 4th Gen. However, I'm curious to know if Nissan took further cost cutting measures in the 5th Gen. Is the 5th Gen. built better than the 4th Gen. Maxima is? Also, how does the build quality of the new 2002 Maximas compare to the 4th Gen. Maximas?
Later,
-Nick
Well, it is a given that the build quality of the 3rd. Gen is superior to that of the 4th Gen. However, I'm curious to know if Nissan took further cost cutting measures in the 5th Gen. Is the 5th Gen. built better than the 4th Gen. Maxima is? Also, how does the build quality of the new 2002 Maximas compare to the 4th Gen. Maximas?
Later,
-Nick
#3
Re: Re: 4th Gen. vs. 5th Gen. vs. 2002 Build Quality...
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
The 2002 is a 5th gen. Nothing changed from 2000-2002 in the build quality area. The 5th gen is better than the 4th on build quality, but I would have it tie with the 3rd gen. It's not better or worse, but its pretty much the same.
The 2002 is a 5th gen. Nothing changed from 2000-2002 in the build quality area. The 5th gen is better than the 4th on build quality, but I would have it tie with the 3rd gen. It's not better or worse, but its pretty much the same.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 4th Gen. vs. 5th Gen. vs. 2002 Build Quality...
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Not in all aspects and I am not biased either.
Not in all aspects and I am not biased either.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 4th Gen. vs. 5th Gen. vs. 2002 Build Quality...
Originally posted by AznWontonboy
did you mean 3rd?
did you mean 3rd?
#11
the early 4th gens were decent. the 95's were the best and then the 96's were a little worse. the 97-99 sucked. The 3rd gens have very good quality from what i've seen and my 2k2 is slightly better then my 95. it hasn't been long enough to see if anyone is gonna have any probs in the long run with a 5th gen. i'd say 3rd and 5th about equal. with 97-99 4th's at the bottom.
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
the early 4th gens were decent. the 95's were the best and then the 96's were a little worse. the 97-99 sucked. The 3rd gens have very good quality from what i've seen and my 2k2 is slightly better then my 95. it hasn't been long enough to see if anyone is gonna have any probs in the long run with a 5th gen. i'd say 3rd and 5th about equal. with 97-99 4th's at the bottom.
the early 4th gens were decent. the 95's were the best and then the 96's were a little worse. the 97-99 sucked. The 3rd gens have very good quality from what i've seen and my 2k2 is slightly better then my 95. it hasn't been long enough to see if anyone is gonna have any probs in the long run with a 5th gen. i'd say 3rd and 5th about equal. with 97-99 4th's at the bottom.
I hate to admit it but I think looks-wise the Maxima peaked in 1997 and went downhill from there. I remember people wanting to put 97+ lamps and grilles on their 95-96. imho the 3rd gen may have been nice in 1989 but it doesn't feel right inside, I rode in a coworker's car and it's small and awkward, at least in the back. Very narrow, even more so than the 4th gen.
#14
How can the looks go downhill from 97 when the 98s and 99 Maximas look exactly like the 97 Maxima?
DW
DW
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
. . . .I hate to admit it but I think looks-wise the Maxima peaked in 1997 and went downhill from there . ..
. . . .I hate to admit it but I think looks-wise the Maxima peaked in 1997 and went downhill from there . ..
#15
semantics
Originally posted by dwapenyi
How can the looks go downhill from 97 when the 98s and 99 Maximas look exactly like the 97 Maxima?
DW
How can the looks go downhill from 97 when the 98s and 99 Maximas look exactly like the 97 Maxima?
DW
Don't get offended, I own a '98. I too prefer the fuel gauge to pivot on the left, keeping it symmetrical to the temp., not like those ugly 97's.
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Re: semantics
Ooooooh, I get it. the other years were the same, and then the change in 2000. Gotcha.
DW
DW
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
97-99's look alike? 97's were introduced in late '96, imho they were the last "positive" improvement in the looks dept. for Maximas. I was eagerly awaiting the 5th gen like everyone else and was crushed when I saw it.
Don't get offended, I own a '98. I too prefer the fuel gauge to pivot on the left, keeping it symmetrical to the temp., not like those ugly 97's.
97-99's look alike? 97's were introduced in late '96, imho they were the last "positive" improvement in the looks dept. for Maximas. I was eagerly awaiting the 5th gen like everyone else and was crushed when I saw it.
Don't get offended, I own a '98. I too prefer the fuel gauge to pivot on the left, keeping it symmetrical to the temp., not like those ugly 97's.
#17
Re: semantics
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
97-99's look alike? 97's were introduced in late '96, imho they were the last "positive" improvement in the looks dept. for Maximas. I was eagerly awaiting the 5th gen like everyone else and was crushed when I saw it.
Don't get offended, I own a '98. I too prefer the fuel gauge to pivot on the left, keeping it symmetrical to the temp., not like those ugly 97's.
97-99's look alike? 97's were introduced in late '96, imho they were the last "positive" improvement in the looks dept. for Maximas. I was eagerly awaiting the 5th gen like everyone else and was crushed when I saw it.
Don't get offended, I own a '98. I too prefer the fuel gauge to pivot on the left, keeping it symmetrical to the temp., not like those ugly 97's.
#18
Re: Re: semantics
Originally posted by deezo
5th Gens are the ugly one's dude.
5th Gens are the ugly one's dude.
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To the people who claim 5ths are better than 4ths: what are you basing your opinion on? When I went to test drive the altima, I also checked out a new max. The materials and build had an eerily similar feel to my 95. Right down to the way the doors felt when closed. Altima on the other hand felt far less solid and lightweight--a night and day difference. The styling is different and it would appear that the newest maximas have thoughtful details that my 95 didn't but I didn't find the '02 max to be much different quality wise. As for the creaks, squeeks and rattles that most 4th gens get, I think you just need to wait a couple more years to see if your '00 or '01 develops the same.
So specifically, what is better on the 5th gen in terms of build or quality?
So specifically, what is better on the 5th gen in terms of build or quality?
#21
3rd gen
I have a 3rd gen... I am going to say it... the build quality rocks and I love the design, but.... I just love the exterior of the 97-99 SE... just my opinion. as for build quality. 5th gen is pretty close to my 92 SE in my opinion... and the trade offs are okay considering the 32-65 hp gain over my car...
but I can still woop up on alot of 4th and fifth gens on the track... VLSD OWNZ!!!!
but I can still woop up on alot of 4th and fifth gens on the track... VLSD OWNZ!!!!
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Interior is over 100% better than the 4th gen. I have owned 4 Maximas now. 96,98,2000,2001.... 5ths were better.
Originally posted by Mishmosh
To the people who claim 5ths are better than 4ths: what are you basing your opinion on? When I went to test drive the altima, I also checked out a new max. The materials and build had an eerily similar feel to my 95. Right down to the way the doors felt when closed. Altima on the other hand felt far less solid and lightweight--a night and day difference. The styling is different and it would appear that the newest maximas have thoughtful details that my 95 didn't but I didn't find the '02 max to be much different quality wise. As for the creaks, squeeks and rattles that most 4th gens get, I think you just need to wait a couple more years to see if your '00 or '01 develops the same.
So specifically, what is better on the 5th gen in terms of build or quality?
To the people who claim 5ths are better than 4ths: what are you basing your opinion on? When I went to test drive the altima, I also checked out a new max. The materials and build had an eerily similar feel to my 95. Right down to the way the doors felt when closed. Altima on the other hand felt far less solid and lightweight--a night and day difference. The styling is different and it would appear that the newest maximas have thoughtful details that my 95 didn't but I didn't find the '02 max to be much different quality wise. As for the creaks, squeeks and rattles that most 4th gens get, I think you just need to wait a couple more years to see if your '00 or '01 develops the same.
So specifically, what is better on the 5th gen in terms of build or quality?
#23
3-gens/4-gens have had some time to simmer. Let a few things fall off the 5-gens and then comment. hehe I mean, people are basicly agreeing the 3-gens are built pretty good. This is from a 1989-1994 production run. You gotta put some miles and years on the 5th gen to really feel them out, ya know. Bring this topic back up when a few more of the 5-gens get about 100k on the odo.
#24
Originally posted by Jeff92se
3-gens/4-gens have had some time to simmer. Let a few things fall off the 5-gens and then comment. hehe I mean, people are basicly agreeing the 3-gens are built pretty good. This is from a 1989-1994 production run. You gotta put some miles and years on the 5th gen to really feel them out, ya know. Bring this topic back up when a few more of the 5-gens get about 100k on the odo.
3-gens/4-gens have had some time to simmer. Let a few things fall off the 5-gens and then comment. hehe I mean, people are basicly agreeing the 3-gens are built pretty good. This is from a 1989-1994 production run. You gotta put some miles and years on the 5th gen to really feel them out, ya know. Bring this topic back up when a few more of the 5-gens get about 100k on the odo.
#25
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Interior is over 100% better than the 4th gen. I have owned 4 Maximas now. 96,98,2000,2001.... 5ths were better.
Interior is over 100% better than the 4th gen. I have owned 4 Maximas now. 96,98,2000,2001.... 5ths were better.
I still like the 4th gen, can't understand the 5th's looks and who is responsible for it. Kinda like a PA license plate--there's no way you want to take credit for designing it.
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Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
R&T, C&D, Motor Trend, Automobile, Consumer Reports, and the New York Times combined don't have as much behind-the-wheel experience with the Maxima as you do!
I still like the 4th gen, can't understand the 5th's looks and who is responsible for it. Kinda like a PA license plate--there's no way you want to take credit for designing it.
R&T, C&D, Motor Trend, Automobile, Consumer Reports, and the New York Times combined don't have as much behind-the-wheel experience with the Maxima as you do!
I still like the 4th gen, can't understand the 5th's looks and who is responsible for it. Kinda like a PA license plate--there's no way you want to take credit for designing it.
#28
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
R&T, C&D, Motor Trend, Automobile, Consumer Reports, and the New York Times combined don't have as much behind-the-wheel experience with the Maxima as you do!
I still like the 4th gen, can't understand the 5th's looks and who is responsible for it. Kinda like a PA license plate--there's no way you want to take credit for designing it.
R&T, C&D, Motor Trend, Automobile, Consumer Reports, and the New York Times combined don't have as much behind-the-wheel experience with the Maxima as you do!
I still like the 4th gen, can't understand the 5th's looks and who is responsible for it. Kinda like a PA license plate--there's no way you want to take credit for designing it.
#29
What I meant was like the little stuff. For example, in my old '92 GXE, you could adjust the headrests forward and back, but in my '97 you can't do that. I just want to know if Nissan fixed any of the "cost-cutting" corners in the 2002 that they cut a few years back when designing the 4th gen.
-Nick
-Nick
#30
I've had my 3rd gen for over 3 years and my 97 SE for 9 weeks. My 94 is Rock Solid, 155K miles with original tranny, alternator and starter. Paint still looks brand new, bumpers withstand a lot of abuse as opposed to 4th and 5th gen bumpers and still look very nice. Not one rattle or any kind of noise that shouldnt be there. Comparing the two, my 94 is a GXE that came with no options except for the standard stuff such as 15' rims and heated mirrors meanwhile the 97 SE is fully loaded with luxury options and probably about 20X faster than my 3rd gen, yet the 3rd gen clearly prevails in my eyes.
As far as the 2K-2K1 goes, I hate the leather design and prefer the 97-99 leather, I also dont like the adjustable hand rest. Most importantly, I drove a 2K SE that had 17K miles at the time and was less than a year old and the thing felt like a complete dog, downright embarassing performance. Comparing the 2K SE Auto I drove to the 2K2 SE Auto's I drove is about the same as a mentally challenged person who all of a sudden gets a brain transplant and becomes a rocket scientist.
As far as the 2K-2K1 goes, I hate the leather design and prefer the 97-99 leather, I also dont like the adjustable hand rest. Most importantly, I drove a 2K SE that had 17K miles at the time and was less than a year old and the thing felt like a complete dog, downright embarassing performance. Comparing the 2K SE Auto I drove to the 2K2 SE Auto's I drove is about the same as a mentally challenged person who all of a sudden gets a brain transplant and becomes a rocket scientist.
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