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Old 12-31-2001, 04:05 PM
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Test Drove 3.5SE and 2k2 Max

To all of the naysayers out there that believe that the Max and Alty have similiar HP and weight and should be equal in performance are wrong. There is a NOTCIEABLE difference between the two. My girlfriend and I test drove the Alty and the Max back to back and the difference is significant. They were both manuals and the Max pulls much stronger. The interior is much nicer but I don't need to add that. The sweet spot occurs at 4k and pulls to 6k and then tapers off. I now have my order in for a glacier white 2k2 Max 6 speed

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i cant wait to hear some mag times on the 2k2 max.
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I agree although I was actually a lot more impressed by the Maxima Auto,(6 speed was nice but for me not as impressive). felt like it put the 3.5 SE Alty Auto to shame.
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Re: Test Drove 3.5SE and 2k2 Max

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To all of the naysayers out there that believe that the Max and Alty have similiar HP and weight and should be equal in performance are wrong. There is a NOTCIEABLE difference between the two. My girlfriend and I test drove the Alty and the Max back to back and the difference is significant. They were both manuals and the Max pulls much stronger. The interior is much nicer but I don't need to add that. The sweet spot occurs at 4k and pulls to 6k and then tapers off. I now have my order in for a glacier white 2k2 Max 6 speed

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good.
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what kind of wheels are those? I like
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What else can be said......................................?
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I'll wait until the real results are out. Butt dynos are worthless. A 5 speed Altima already dynoed (Dynojet 248) and put down 200fwhp and 220fwtq which is 10fwhp and 10fwtq more than a 6 speed Max put down. The 6 speed Max was dynoed on a Mustang dyno which give ~4-5% lower readings than a Dynojet 248. When you multiply the 6 speed numbers by 5% you get the exact power numbers the Altima cranked out. I think that speaks strongly for what I've been saying all along. The Altima has been underrated by Nissan. I know the truth hurts many Maxima owners in the this forum and they will remain in denial.

The guy that ran a 14.6 in his stock GLE saw a stock Altima 5 speed clicking off 14.5s with lots of wheelspin. MT got a 14.7 out of the Altima and for some strange reason Nissan didn't allow preproduction testing of the 6 speed Max. The 6 speed has been for sale over over 2 months now and no mag has tested one yet. Hmmmm........


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Originally posted by Dave B
I'll wait until the real results are out. Butt dynos are worthless. A 5 speed Altima already dynoed (Dynojet 248) and put down 200fwhp and 220fwtq which is 10fwhp and 10fwtq more than a 6 speed Max put down. The 6 speed Max was dynoed on a Mustang dyno which give ~4-5% lower readings than a Dynojet 248. When you multiply the 6 speed numbers by 5% you get the exact power numbers the Altima cranked out. I think that speaks strongly for what I've been saying all along. The Altima has been underrated by Nissan. I know the truth hurts many Maxima owners in the this forum and they will remain in denial.

The guy that ran a 14.6 in his stock GLE saw a stock Altima 5 speed clicking off 14.5s with lots of wheelspin. MT got a 14.7 out of the Altima and for some strange reason Nissan didn't allow preproduction testing of the 6 speed Max. The 6 speed has been for sale over over 2 months now and no mag has tested one yet. Hmmmm........


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Just save it until Saturday when Steve Dyno's his frankincar. BTW the altima put down 199HP in 4th. Funny how you go with the 200 HP # after discrediting my 3rd gear dynoes.
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DAVE now why would a 240 horse Altima (underated for sure......) be able to out run a 255 horse Maxima (overrated for sure.....) have u ever driven either? I have a 2k2 SE and tested a 2k2 altima 3.5 with its plastic interior and all, and i truly believe the max is half sec quicker to 60 and 1/4. Why dont u just go ahead and up grade your 4rth gen.
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Originally posted by JAKE02
DAVE now why would a 240 horse Altima (underated for sure......) be able to out run a 255 horse Maxima (overrated for sure.....) have u ever driven either? I have a 2k2 SE and tested a 2k2 altima 3.5 with its plastic interior and all, and i truly believe the max is half sec quicker to 60 and 1/4. Why dont u just go ahead and up grade your 4rth gen.
You are fiesty for a newbie.
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Jake you are correct he MAX is a 1/2 sec. or more quicker than the 3.5 Altima. Just take a look at a recent C&D they tested both the 3.5 Alti and the Heavier than (MAX) I35 and it was 6.9 to 60mph for the I35 and 7.3 for the ALTI. My 02 Max auto I am running a 6.61 average to 60mph.
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Originally posted by Dave B
I'll wait until the real results are out. Butt dynos are worthless. A 5 speed Altima already dynoed (Dynojet 248) and put down 200fwhp and 220fwtq which is 10fwhp and 10fwtq more than a 6 speed Max put down. The 6 speed Max was dynoed on a Mustang dyno which give ~4-5% lower readings than a Dynojet 248. When you multiply the 6 speed numbers by 5% you get the exact power numbers the Altima cranked out. I think that speaks strongly for what I've been saying all along. The Altima has been underrated by Nissan. I know the truth hurts many Maxima owners in the this forum and they will remain in denial.

The guy that ran a 14.6 in his stock GLE saw a stock Altima 5 speed clicking off 14.5s with lots of wheelspin. MT got a 14.7 out of the Altima and for some strange reason Nissan didn't allow preproduction testing of the 6 speed Max. The 6 speed has been for sale over over 2 months now and no mag has tested one yet. Hmmmm........


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You say that you'll wait until the real results come out, yet you say things like "I think that speaks strongly for what I've been saying all along. The Altima has been underrated by Nissan. I know the truth hurts many Maxima owners in the this forum and they will remain in denial."
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Old 01-01-2002, 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by emax95


Just save it until Saturday when Steve Dyno's his frankincar. BTW the altima put down 199HP in 4th. Funny how you go with the 200 HP # after discrediting my 3rd gear dynoes.
Well, Steve's "Frankincar" is modified isn't it? Is that going to prove much when we're talking about stock vs stock? If Steve's only mod is an intake, I'm guessing he'll put down 205-210fwhp.

I'm confused by your 3rd gear dyno statement. What's it suppose to mean? When you dyno manual you typically want to run in 4th gear. The 6 speed Max was dynoed in 4th and so was the Altima. There seems to be nothing wrong there.


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Re: RE:JAKE 02

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Jake you are correct he MAX is a 1/2 sec. or more quicker than the 3.5 Altima. Just take a look at a recent C&D they tested both the 3.5 Alti and the Heavier than (MAX) I35 and it was 6.9 to 60mph for the I35 and 7.3 for the ALTI. My 02 Max auto I am running a 6.61 average to 60mph.
Yeah, and look at the trap speeds of the Altima vs the I35. The difference is 1mph. Trap speed is a far better indicator of the potential of the car. It looks to me that they had a bit of traction problems with the Altima. I believe the I35 hit 92mph and the Altima hit 91mph. Hmmmmm......

BTW, is your 6.61 0-60 done via the "rice-tech"? Yep, those a accurate. I've hit 5.9-6.0 0-60s on the 1/4 mile track. I don't trust them. The gearthe mags use is far more accurate than the G-tech.


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Originally posted by JAKE02
DAVE now why would a 240 horse Altima (underated for sure......) be able to out run a 255 horse Maxima (overrated for sure.....) have u ever driven either? I have a 2k2 SE and tested a 2k2 altima 3.5 with its plastic interior and all, and i truly believe the max is half sec quicker to 60 and 1/4. Why dont u just go ahead and up grade your 4rth gen.
Have you ever been to the track? Believe me, you can't feel the difference between a 15.3 second run or a 14.7 second run. It's that close.

I'll be upgrading my Max sometime next year, but if the Altima is just as quick then why would I get another beam axle Maxima with a newly finished ugly butt



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Have you ever been to the track? Believe me, you can't feel the difference between a 15.3 second run or a 14.7 second run. It's that close.

I'll be upgrading my Max sometime next year, but if the Altima is just as quick then why would I get another beam axle Maxima with a newly finished ugly butt



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I'll be upgrading my Max sometime next year, but if the Altima is just as quick then why would I get another beam axle Maxima with a newly finished ugly butt



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The Maxima is faster! And there is no proof of a new stock Altima running 14.3 or faster!

Lets not forget about the welfare interior of the Altima.
 
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The Maxima is faster! And there is no proof of a new stock Altima running 14.3 or faster!

Lets not forget about the welfare interior of the Altima.
It might be faster but im guessing they put down the same HP..
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After driving both back to back before I bought my 02 MAX, the Max makes better use of the power and the auto trans in the MAX made quicker shifts.
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