96sleeper

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Well, not this time but I can gurantee the next time I go to the track with better tires I will be. We went to Steele, Alabama last night and it was my first time at a 1/4 track. The track surface was so cold there was no traction. My car literally spun all the way through first on must runs and spun on the 1-2 shift and it has never done that on the street. My car's best time actually came with Veetec driving, but my best was not far behind. Here is my best time:
R/t: .782
60' 2.425
330 6.503
1/8 9.783
MPH 75.72
1/4 15.042
MPH 92.62

As you can see by the crappy 60ft time, my car will definately in the 14's with some better traction. I ran one 2.3xx 60 ft time all night and that was with a huge smoky burnout. That time was backed up by: 15.071, 15.060, 15.086, 15.072, 15.075. My best MPH of the night was 93 MPH.

I had a good time there. Veetec's SHO is very fast, he couldn't get traction either but he was running 97 MPH. Another guy with a prelude with I/H/E ran his best of 14.45 which is very fast, he said most people with those mods run mid 15's because they can't drive.

Supermachoman

Impressive times! I really want to see an automatic hit 14's, so keep it up.

gtr_rider

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Did you try dumping the brake, that should help for traction, am I right?

UMD_MaxSE

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yikes.... great times

Vyrus

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Wowsers! Great job man, now I'm gonna buy exactly the mods you have.
-Cyrus

Synki

You now that you are now the second fastest NA 4th gen auto right right? Congrats!

He beat Jim W's 15.1

Sprint

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get a JWT ECU instead and you will have no problems getting to 14's

Sprint

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so what did Officer Veetec run?

Cumalot

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Woohoo! Automagic rules!

Great times, now I know it's possible hit high 14s in a NA automagic.

Vyrus

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I'll need that and all his mods .
-Cyrus

VeeTec

No records in the Maxima, not enough traction with the cold surface!

Event the burnout box had frozen!!!

My best was a 14.939@92.48 with a traction limited 2.287, which is so so. Match the 2.1 60' times and I would have matched my best e.t.'s

The SHO's clutch was slipping bad with every up shift, and I couldn't launch it without bogging off of the line, then gradually adding power to get a little traction. My best 60's were 2.4-2.5's.

It should have been in the low 14's with that m.p.h.

I am getting a clutch for the SHO, from F.P.S, and a Y-Pipe for the Maxima before going back in a couple of weeks.

A new clutch should add another 1-2 m.p.h. to the SHO, and make it easier and more consistent to launch, and so will a warmer surface since I will be running during the afternoon.

My best SHO times with terrible launches and a slipping clutch were 14.6's @ 97+ m.p.h.

I am hoping the Maxima will drop down into the low to mid 14's with a Y-Pipe.

BTW, Matts Automatic SE was very surprising! I have never driven an Auto 4th Gen that was so fast! I love that bark going into second.

His car should run high 14's easy with an afternoon run and better traction.

Maximus1000

Hey man, you did awesome!!! Oh, by the way, I'm the Prelude guy. Just get some super grippy tires and you'll be in the 14s w'o breaking a sweat. I wont underestimate an automagic Max again! Your car sounds awesome too! I miss the torque of my old 94 SE 5spd. Warren posted about this over at prelueonline.com in the 'off-topic' area under "results of the SHO-down". Check it out. Again, great results!

VeeTec

Ed, I don't think your Prelude has a torque problem.

BTW, so this is your old nic.

Man....over 97 m.p.h, with only a few mods!!!! I think you have a factory freak. The same robot that built mine back in 93 must have built your 5th Gen.

Sprint

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ahh.. looking forward to those numbers with the new clutch

Maximus1000

Yeah, I guess I lucked out. Yeah, I have the torquiest Honda 4cylinder out there. My friends Civic Si is just so.....torqueless. I'm glad I made the choice I did.

96sleeper, when do you plan on going back to the track. Warren mentioned something about another afternoon track day in a couple of weeks. I hope you can make it (with new tires ).

96sleeper

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Warren said when he gets a new y-pipe for the max he is going back. Hopefully in a few weeks. You guys will have to give me some notice ahead of time so I can make the trip. But I am definately up for it.

max'n out

Damn your R/t time sucks.

Nealoc187

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No, his 60' time sucks With a decent 60' you are way into the 14s.

Victim64

Great times!!! Now we really have to line them up when we have that meet...

I really need to find out how far that track is from me... hmmm, maybe if I get some warning I might try and come down.

deezo

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If you drop that 60' a couple of tenths, you should be around 14.8.

96sleeper

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Everyone always says that every tenth in the 60 ft is two tenths in the quarter. That would mean if I could cut a 2.2 60ft time which is not entirely impossible, I could theoretically run a 14.6. I know it won't happen, but I will be shooting for a 14.8 when I go back. This kind of makes it easy to explain how Don ran a 14.2 in his auto. He has transmission mods: Limited-slip, high stall torque converter, and slicks, which give him serious traction off the line. His mods are similar to mine (probably a few secret ones), which means he probably cuts a 2.0 (or better) 60 ft time to run a 14.2. His run at 12.2 is only at 106mph which shows that he has serious traction off the line. I need to find a way to lower my 60 ft time bad. What is the conclusion about 205/50-15 drag radials? It would lower my mph, but could I get off the line better?

Nealoc187

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You need to work on launching it first, then worry about tires. I've seen auto 4th gens cut 2.25 60's on street tires.

Nismo87SE

The 205/50-15s won't lower your trapspeed, actually it could increase it. Judging by your trapspeed your hitting the traps around 4600-4700rpm. With the smaller tires your final gear would be the same as a 4.0 diff vs the 3.62 stock and your rpm would be around 5000-5100rpm. As far as the 60ft, a 2.0 would definitly put you in the 14.6x-14.8 range. Last year I seen Don do a NA run at 14.8 @ 91 with a 2.3 60ft.

Maximus1000

I dont think he really needs slicks, but good street tires. His are getting pretty thin up front and it caused him to spin all the way through first. Also, he had his stock wheels on front and larger rims on the rear, so maybe that had to do something with as well. Not to mention how frigid the track surface was. I was grabbing major rubber in the 1-2 shift in my Prelude even on my 14.43 run.

A-Ron Max

Just get a high stall torque converter. This spring I'm planning on getting one of those along w/don's vb mod. That should easily give us auto max's the launch we need to get into the 14's.

Sprint

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don't run slicks.. you will break some major drive axles with slicks

kit99bar

man I wish ther were some tracks open here

running in this cold temps == good times

deezo

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My lowest 60' is 2.25. You can do it. Just torque brake at 2000rpm and let it rip.

Sonic

2.23 here.

Synki

Hey Greg, wasnt that 60ft on 17's too?

I have ran 2.28 60fts.

Sonic

Remember, my 17's are slightly smaller than stock (225/45-17 instead of 225/50-17), so that may account for my slightly better than average times.

Cumalot

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So, how do you go about to get better 60ft times? I suck, my best 60ft was a 2.3 IIRC. I launched at 2k rpms too. However, I had the stock tires on, which didn't give me any grip whatsoever. Do stickier tires make that big of a difference?

deezo

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Yup and tire pressure. The tire needs to flex in order to grap the track. Look at the tires the Hot Rodders use for draggin, high sidewalls and soft compounds.

Sonic

Sticker tires do make a difference. I have Pirelli P7000's which are pretty damn sticky. For the launch, I really can't pass about 1500, or else I end up peeling out instead of chirping, then grabbing.

Cumalot

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Hm...I have Dunlop SP9000s on my 17s, they are pretty sticky. I would want to drag with the 17s, but they are a bit heavy, so not sure if that's a wise thing to do. Either that or get me some drag radials for the factory 15s.


Yup, crappy stock tires and leaving the tire pressure at 35psi all around were a big mistake for me. Oh well, it was the first time I dragged, so I had no idea. Plus, running with almost a full tank of gas didn't help either. I'm not trying to make excuses, but for those of you who drag often, you know it does play a part in whether I get good or bad times.


Medic and Deezo, you guys going to drag again any time soon? I'm very impressed with your 1/4 times. Too bad I don't live up there, if not maybe I could learn a few things for you two.

deezo

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Aww, thanks. I know Medic has something in store for this Spring so I won't be able to hang soon. I'm making little adjustments too though. I really want to get to that track that Ben and some of the other Alabama racers go to.

96sleeper

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Mine and Veetec's maximas were lined up a few times at the track. It all depends on the 5-speed launch. When Warren (or Shannon) had a good launch his car got out front and I never caught up, though I wasn't far behind. If they didn't get a good launch, I never looked back. Warren's best in the car that night was a 14.9, and Shannon's was a 15.1 . But then again, He has the fastest stock 5-speed on the board. So who knows the results. The gap was never that big against any car, I was surprised. Even against Ed's prelude that ran a 14.4@97mph. He never ran that against me, mainly high 14's. We would launch pretty evenly, and he couldn't pull me in first gear, but after that the prelude's top end was unreal. I drove his car for one pass, and he drove mine. I ran a 15.5 in his, he ran a 15.4 in mine with a passenger. He has the kind of car that has to be driven hard to get good times, and I couldn't do it.

VeeTec

Yeah, I couldn't get traction well Friday night. The ground was too cold. 2.1 60' ft runs would have put me right back in the 14.7's again, maybe even 14.6 with the cold air. But traction is the key, and it wasn't happening that night.

Washington DC Maxima

They don't blow torche the starting line at your track during the cold months??

VeeTec

The only time I have seen them use a blow torch was when there was a fluid spill, but they never used it last Friday night.