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Old 01-13-2002 | 12:23 PM
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good try baggy

the more times you go to the the faster your times get even if you have not done anything to the car. thats why ben beat you - he has been to the track a dozen times. will get'em as soon as the 1/4 up in commerce opens.
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
only if you promise that we spend it on video editing tools or materials

DONE!!



I will be the man on this one $1000

can I donate $500 to the cause?



obviously you never weighed 18 inch Toxxins

No but I have picked them up and compared weight from picking them up so again

I AM IN
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:25 PM
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Re: good try baggy

Originally posted by nismo2020
the more times you go to the the faster your times get even if you have not done anything to the car. thats why ben beat you - he has been to the track a dozen times. will get'em as soon as the 1/4 up in commerce opens.

hey brotha man.. how's things in AZ? Yeah , oh well can't win them all right
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Vyrus
The Toxxins weigh 19.8
-Cyrus
do you know how much 17 inch SE rims weight?

so we betting or what? bags wants in also
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:27 PM
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Re: good try baggy

Originally posted by nismo2020
the more times you go to the the faster your times get even if you have not done anything to the car. thats why ben beat you - he has been to the track a dozen times. will get'em as soon as the 1/4 up in commerce opens.
no Ben beat him because he has the best trim level for the maxima
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
bags wants in also

YES HE DOES.. NEEDS MORE MEMORY & FASTER PROCESSOR FOR EDITING
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
do you know how much 17 inch SE rims weight?
[glup] Why do I have a bad feeling about this now? [/gulp]

Originally posted by SprintMax
so we betting or what? bags wants in also
Well, I said I would, so yes. Do you think I have $1000? And no, bags can't be in I don't have that much money.
-Cyrus
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:30 PM
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Hey there SMC Racing - VP & Founding Member #3 , at least I lost to a SMC member rigt


Hey, if anyone ever says anything, just say, SMC for life.
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by Synki




Which SMC member you lose to?

Hey, if anyone ever says anything, just say, SMC for life.

SMC member 808... MZMTG

yes that's what I thought
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by Vyrus

[glup] Why do I have a bad feeling about this now? [/gulp]
you shouldn't exactly:

a) bet on something you have no knowledge of
b) bet against the robot
c) argue with the robot
d) bet when you have no money
e) have pics of your car where i can get my $1000 from it


Originally posted by Vyrus
Do you think I have $1000? -Cyrus
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:33 PM
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YES HE DOES.. NEEDS MORE MEMORY & FASTER PROCESSOR FOR EDITING
Hmm, well if that's the case, maybe his CS server will be faster.

No lag!
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Synki


Hmm, well if that's the case, maybe his CS server will be faster.
No lag
he is talking about his own computer

and the CS server lags because of the bandwith

Linux Server running 1 gig CPU and 1 gig memory is fast enough bish
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:35 PM
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I still want proof...

Originally posted by SprintMax


you shouldn't exactly:

a) bet on something you have no knowledge of
b) bet against the robot
c) argue with the robot
d) bet when you have no money
e) have pics of your car where i can get my $1000 from it




That the 18"s are slower than the 17"s. The larger diameter will slow him down, reguardless of a couple of pounds ligher.
-Cyrus
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by Vyrus

And no, bags can't be in I don't have that much money.
-Cyrus
WHY??? WE can bet your rims
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:38 PM
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Re: I still want proof...

Originally posted by Vyrus

That the 18"s are slower than the 17"s. The larger diameter will slow him down, reguardless of a couple of pounds ligher.
-Cyrus



So we go back to the origin of this..

WANNA BET?????
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by bags533


WHY??? WE can bet your rims
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:40 PM
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Re: I still want proof...

Originally posted by Vyrus

That the 18"s are slower than the 17"s. The larger diameter will slow him down, reguardless of a couple of pounds ligher.
-Cyrus
so why is greg's best run on 17's and his other runs on 15's?

and why did Mattcalder run his best 14 second time on his 18 inch TE-37's?

Old 01-13-2002 | 12:41 PM
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Re: Re: I still want proof...

Originally posted by bags533

So we go back to the origin of this..

WANNA BET?????
Originally posted by Vyrus

Well, I said I would, so yes. Do you think I have $1000? And no, bags can't be in I don't have that much money.
-Cyrus
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:42 PM
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Re: Re: I still want proof...

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so why is greg's best run on 17's and his other runs on 15's?

and why did Mattcalder run his best 14 second time on his 18 inch TE-37's?

They were both significantly lighter. Not 3 or so lbs. More mods?
-Cyrus
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Vyrus

They were both significantly lighter. Not 3 or so lbs.
-Cyrus
According to your theory.. larger diameter will slow them down
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:45 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I still want proof...

Originally posted by SprintMax
According to your theory.. larger diameter will slow them down
UNLESS there is a notable difference in weight. But like I said show me the proof of somebody running 2 identical runs except with 17" wheels and a little lighter 18" wheels, and that the 18" owz, and joO will own me. Then we'll see.
-Cyrus
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:48 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I still want proof...

Originally posted by Vyrus

UNLESS there is a notable difference in weight. But like I said show me the proof of somebody running 2 identical runs except with 17" wheels and a little lighter 18" wheels, and that the 18" owz, and joO will own me. Then we'll see.
-Cyrus
1 inch difference in distance travelled from the center of the turning force vs same circumfrence doesn't make any difference..

if you think your 1/4 mile time is going to be more than .1 of a second diffence with the same wheel weight.. then arguing with you is pointless... what you need to also understand is.. most 18 inch wheels are wider than 17's thus providing more contact to the ground and giving more traction off the line..
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
he is talking about his own computer

and the CS server lags because of the bandwith

Linux Server running 1 gig CPU and 1 gig memory is fast enough bish :Police

The bot knows it all!
Old 01-13-2002 | 12:52 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I still want proof...

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1 inch difference in distance travelled from the center of the turning force vs same circumfrence doesn't make any difference..

if you think your 1/4 mile time is going to be more than .1 of a second diffence with the same wheel weight.. then arguing with you is pointless... what you need to also understand is.. most 18 inch wheels are wider than 17's thus providing more contact to the ground and giving more traction off the line..
I understand your viewpoint. But you understand that 1 inch, that .5 on either side, makes the whole depth of the wheel lower, and that is the majority of the wheel's weight. Its not as if only .1 lb is transferred lower, it is a good portion of the wheel's weight. However I think .1 is a good size difference, especially if people round up (which they do). Just show me proof and like I said joO will own me. And can you stop using the police thingy, its making me dizzy.
-Cyrus
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Originally posted by Vyrus

I understand your viewpoint. But you understand that 1 inch, that .5 on either side, makes the whole depth of the wheel lower, and that is the majority of the wheel's weight. Its not as if only .1 lb is transferred lower, it is a good portion of the wheel's weight. However I think .1 is a good size difference, especially if people round up (which they do). Just show me proof and like I said joO will own me. And can you stop using the police thingy, its making me dizzy.
-Cyrus
I can't show you proof of what i don't have.. the only diffences i know of is 16's vs 18's or 15's vs 18's.. and i can show you proof of the 18's winning the situation.. so by your theory thats not possible.. so again you are wrong..
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I still want proof...

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I can't show you proof of what i don't have.. the only diffences i know of is 16's vs 18's or 15's vs 18's.. and i can show you proof of the 18's winning the situation.. so by your theory thats not possible.. so again you are wrong..
Sorry Master Bot, but didn't you see my exception? If the wheels are a notable difference in weight (i.e. more than 6 lbs) this rule can be overridden. The reason being that 6lbs a wheel = about 98 lbs in your car. If you added a person in your car don't you think you would run the 1/4 atleast a .1 sec slower? Oh and BTW master bot, I could have sworn the fastest cars in the world use smaller wheels...
-Cyrus
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Sorry Master Bot, but didn't you see my exception? If the wheels are a notable difference in weight (i.e. more than 6 lbs) this rule can be overridden. The reason being that 6lbs a wheel = about 98 lbs in your car. If you added a person in your car don't you think you would run the 1/4 atleast a .1 sec slower? Oh and BTW master bot, I could have sworn the fastest cars in the world use smaller wheels...
-Cyrus

so you are saying that if 18 inch Toxxin's are 19 lbs.. and 00 SE wheels are 25 lbs.. then the Toxxin's would be faster 1/4 mile right? but since you don't know what the 00 SE wheels are .. you are in no position to argue right?

the fastest cars in the world use smaller wheels? is that so? care to provide some facts or proof to back up your claim?
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Originally posted by SprintMax
[B
you need a GXE my friend [/B]
You and your GXE comments.

The fact that I have a SE didn't seem to hurt my times.
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You and your GXE comments.

The fact that I have a SE didn't seem to hurt my times.
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Originally posted by SprintMax

so you are saying that if 18 inch Toxxin's are 19 lbs.. and 00 SE wheels are 25 lbs.. then the Toxxin's would be faster 1/4 mile right? but since you don't know what the 00 SE wheels are .. you are in no position to argue right?
You are right. Will you stop using the DAMN police thingy!

Originally posted by SprintMax
the fastest cars in the world use smaller wheels? is that so? care to provide some facts or proof to back up your claim?
Sure. The fastest FWD drive car in the world: Stephen Papdakis' Civic. It uses 13" wheels (I think) up front and larger in the back.
-Cyrus
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You are right. Will you stop using the DAMN police thingy!


Originally posted by Vyrus

Sure. The fastest FWD drive car in the world: Stephen Papdakis' Civic. It uses 13" wheels (I think) up front and larger in the back.
-Cyrus
SP Supra runs 8's on 18 inch wheels.. they are faster than Steph
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SP Supra runs 8's on 18 inch wheels.. they are faster than Steph
Not FWD, not the same game. BTW there's a 7-sec Focus so that Supra wasn't the best example.
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Originally posted by Synki



The bot knows it all!

YES he does.. He is correct
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Not FWD, not the same game. BTW there's a 7-sec Focus so that Supra wasn't the best example.
-Cyrus
do you know what size wheels top fuel dragsters use? its not smaller wheels

oh anyway.. SW Z06 on 18 inch wheels..

enjoy the video

http://cad.mdsog.net/movies/supra/SW...44%5b1%5d.mpeg
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You and your GXE comments.

The fact that I have a SE didn't seem to hurt my times.

So what you trying to say???
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I still want proof...

Originally posted by Vyrus

Not FWD, not the same game. BTW there's a 7-sec Focus so that Supra wasn't the best example.
-Cyrus


I would take 17 inch Mickey Thompsons ANY DAY..

sorry did not see your post sprint
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tell SW that his 19's are slowing him down

http://cad.mdsog.net/movies/supra/SW-Supra-757RWHP.mpg

tell this Huyabusa owner that Walsers 18 inch wheels are slowing him down..

http://cad.mdsog.net/movies/supra/Walser-vs-busa.mpa

tell this viper owner that Walsers 18 inch wheels are slowing him down also..

http://cad.mdsog.net/movies/supra/Wa...s-ViperGTS.mpa

tell this 900rr owner that Walsers 18's are slowing him down..

http://cad.mdsog.net/movies/supra/Walser-vs-900rr.mpa

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do you know what size wheels top fuel dragsters use? its not smaller wheels
No I don't, but are they FWD?
Originally posted by SprintMax
oh anyway.. SW Z06 on 18 inch wheels..

enjoy the video
I did.
Originally posted by SprintMax
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I still want proof...

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No I don't, but are they FWD?
so are you brining another argument that the wheel size factor and weight factor only apply to FWD cars?

Originally posted by Vyrus
I did.
enjoy the others above..

Originally posted by Vyrus
STOP USING THAT!!! [Excuse the harshness Master bot]
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Originally posted by SprintMax
tell SW that his 19's are slowing him down

http://cad.mdsog.net/movies/supra/SW-Supra-757RWHP.mpg

tell this Huyabusa owner that Walsers 18 inch wheels are slowing him down..

http://cad.mdsog.net/movies/supra/Walser-vs-busa.mpa

tell this viper owner that Walsers 18 inch wheels are slowing him down also..

http://cad.mdsog.net/movies/supra/Wa...s-ViperGTS.mpa

tell this 900rr owner that Walsers 18's are slowing him down..

http://cad.mdsog.net/movies/supra/Walser-vs-900rr.mpa

They are, but those cars/bikes need every bit of handling they can get or they'll fly off the road.
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