just Installed Stillen Oil Cooler
01-27-2002, 02:16 PM
#1
just Installed Stillen Oil Cooler
After trying to piece one together using parts from Permacool, Hayden ect, I finally broke down and bought the $tillen cooler.
I didn't really get it as a performance item but more for engine longevity. I don't know if cooler oil results in more peak horsepower but the car does feels stronger and torquier at all RPM's. I like it a lot and it's nice to know the engine is well protected.
I also got an oil thermostat from Permacool to shorten warm-up time.
I've gotta give $tillen credit - you always pay a lot, but you get very high quality stuff in return. The instructions were crappy as usual though.
Anybody else have similar experieces with an engine oil cooler?
I didn't really get it as a performance item but more for engine longevity. I don't know if cooler oil results in more peak horsepower but the car does feels stronger and torquier at all RPM's. I like it a lot and it's nice to know the engine is well protected.
I also got an oil thermostat from Permacool to shorten warm-up time.
I've gotta give $tillen credit - you always pay a lot, but you get very high quality stuff in return. The instructions were crappy as usual though.
Anybody else have similar experieces with an engine oil cooler?
01-27-2002, 03:40 PM
#2
Yup, $tealins cooler is a rip off! I bought a Permacool universal kit from Jegs.
771-10189 250 Horsepower Oil Cooler Kit $ 87.99
It works just fine and was a snap to install. As a bonus the kit is designed to use a bigger oil filer from a Ford Truck!!!
771-10189 250 Horsepower Oil Cooler Kit $ 87.99
It works just fine and was a snap to install. As a bonus the kit is designed to use a bigger oil filer from a Ford Truck!!!
01-27-2002, 04:41 PM
#5
Re: just Installed Stillen Oil Cooler
Originally posted by sleepermax
After trying to piece one together using parts from Permacool, Hayden ect, I finally broke down and bought the $tillen cooler.
I didn't really get it as a performance item but more for engine longevity. I don't know if cooler oil results in more peak horsepower but the car does feels stronger and torquier at all RPM's. I like it a lot and it's nice to know the engine is well protected.
I also got an oil thermostat from Permacool to shorten warm-up time.
I've gotta give $tillen credit - you always pay a lot, but you get very high quality stuff in return. The instructions were crappy as usual though.
Anybody else have similar experieces with an engine oil cooler?
After trying to piece one together using parts from Permacool, Hayden ect, I finally broke down and bought the $tillen cooler.
I didn't really get it as a performance item but more for engine longevity. I don't know if cooler oil results in more peak horsepower but the car does feels stronger and torquier at all RPM's. I like it a lot and it's nice to know the engine is well protected.
I also got an oil thermostat from Permacool to shorten warm-up time.
I've gotta give $tillen credit - you always pay a lot, but you get very high quality stuff in return. The instructions were crappy as usual though.
Anybody else have similar experieces with an engine oil cooler?
01-28-2002, 06:52 AM
#6
Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
Yup, $tealins cooler is a rip off! I bought a Permacool universal kit from Jegs.
771-10189 250 Horsepower Oil Cooler Kit $ 87.99
It works just fine and was a snap to install. As a bonus the kit is designed to use a bigger oil filer from a Ford Truck!!!
Yup, $tealins cooler is a rip off! I bought a Permacool universal kit from Jegs.
771-10189 250 Horsepower Oil Cooler Kit $ 87.99
It works just fine and was a snap to install. As a bonus the kit is designed to use a bigger oil filer from a Ford Truck!!!
01-28-2002, 06:56 AM
#7
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
The kit comes with everything needed for the installation? Can we use the stock oil filter on these bad boys? Thanks.
The kit comes with everything needed for the installation? Can we use the stock oil filter on these bad boys? Thanks.
01-28-2002, 07:06 AM
#8
Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
Will I needed a few zip ties to help with routing the lines, but other than that, it is 100% complete. No you cant use the stock filter. Using the larger filter is awesome for filtering. The Maxima OE filter size is tiny!
Will I needed a few zip ties to help with routing the lines, but other than that, it is 100% complete. No you cant use the stock filter. Using the larger filter is awesome for filtering. The Maxima OE filter size is tiny!
Ford truck filter? Hmmmmmmmm.....
Which truck filter? Sorry for the questions, Jane and I have always been interested in an oil cooler kit but couldn't fork out $400 for the kit.One for Q for this post. What shot are you using? 25 shot? I'm searching for a 25-30 shot kit. Thanks for any info.
01-28-2002, 08:28 AM
#11
Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
Will I needed a few zip ties to help with routing the lines, but other than that, it is 100% complete. No you cant use the stock filter. Using the larger filter is awesome for filtering. The Maxima OE filter size is tiny!
Will I needed a few zip ties to help with routing the lines, but other than that, it is 100% complete. No you cant use the stock filter. Using the larger filter is awesome for filtering. The Maxima OE filter size is tiny!
Dixit
01-28-2002, 08:53 AM
#12
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Wait wait wait, so the ford truck filter screws right into the engine like the normal maxima filter? If so, which one? I wanna do this for my next oil change also.
Dixit
Wait wait wait, so the ford truck filter screws right into the engine like the normal maxima filter? If so, which one? I wanna do this for my next oil change also.
Dixit
01-28-2002, 08:58 AM
#13
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
You need the cooler kit Matt listed.
You need the cooler kit Matt listed.
Kev, BTW, I am coming about within a month to buy a S/C. Just still contemplating a S/C or the Turbo MY4DSC puts out.
Dixit
01-28-2002, 09:01 AM
#14
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
So not only will I have the OEM filter, but also a Ford Truck size oil filter for the oil cooler also?
Kev, BTW, I am coming about within a month to buy a S/C. Just still contemplating a S/C or the Turbo MY4DSC puts out.
Dixit
So not only will I have the OEM filter, but also a Ford Truck size oil filter for the oil cooler also?
Kev, BTW, I am coming about within a month to buy a S/C. Just still contemplating a S/C or the Turbo MY4DSC puts out.
Dixit
Just 1 filter.
01-28-2002, 09:03 AM
#15
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
So not only will I have the OEM filter, but also a Ford Truck size oil filter for the oil cooler also?
Kev, BTW, I am coming about within a month to buy a S/C. Just still contemplating a S/C or the Turbo MY4DSC puts out.
Dixit
So not only will I have the OEM filter, but also a Ford Truck size oil filter for the oil cooler also?
Kev, BTW, I am coming about within a month to buy a S/C. Just still contemplating a S/C or the Turbo MY4DSC puts out.
Dixit
SC?
2.62" pulley too? 14 lbs sounds good doesn't it? 
01-28-2002, 09:04 AM
#16
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
I see, thanks for the info.
Ford truck filter? Hmmmmmmmm..... Which truck filter? Sorry for the questions, Jane and I have always been interested in an oil cooler kit but couldn't fork out $400 for the kit.
One for Q for this post. What shot are you using? 25 shot? I'm searching for a 25-30 shot kit. Thanks for any info.
I see, thanks for the info.
Ford truck filter? Hmmmmmmmm.....
Which truck filter? Sorry for the questions, Jane and I have always been interested in an oil cooler kit but couldn't fork out $400 for the kit.One for Q for this post. What shot are you using? 25 shot? I'm searching for a 25-30 shot kit. Thanks for any info.
01-28-2002, 09:11 AM
#17
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
There's an adapter that goes over the stock filter hole, I assume... so he only uses the Ford filter.
SC? 2.62" pulley too? 14 lbs sounds good doesn't it?
There's an adapter that goes over the stock filter hole, I assume... so he only uses the Ford filter.
SC?
2.62" pulley too? 14 lbs sounds good doesn't it?
Why have you not done a Level10 upgrade yet? Also do I have to get the Dons VB upgrade with a S/C? Cause the only problem I got with that is that I got only one car right now, and I cant be out for more than one day. Don will take at least a week, plus I dont even have a garage to let me car sit in while the VB is out. This is going to get complicated.
Dixit
01-28-2002, 09:38 AM
#19
Originally posted by DanNY
Fram HP1 ownz!
Fram HP1 ownz!
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
What you mean 2.625" pulley "too"? You actually gonna get a 2.62"? I want to have at least 10psi boost. I am very mechanical, I have done engine rebuilding and tranny rebuilding, and was considering doing the Level10 tranny upgrade myself with the kit they send me. But dont know how complicated these new trannys are. I used to work alot on my 1980 Benz.
Why have you not done a Level10 upgrade yet? Also do I have to get the Dons VB upgrade with a S/C? Cause the only problem I got with that is that I got only one car right now, and I cant be out for more than one day. Don will take at least a week, plus I dont even have a garage to let me car sit in while the VB is out. This is going to get complicated.
Dixit
What you mean 2.625" pulley "too"? You actually gonna get a 2.62"? I want to have at least 10psi boost. I am very mechanical, I have done engine rebuilding and tranny rebuilding, and was considering doing the Level10 tranny upgrade myself with the kit they send me. But dont know how complicated these new trannys are. I used to work alot on my 1980 Benz.
Why have you not done a Level10 upgrade yet? Also do I have to get the Dons VB upgrade with a S/C? Cause the only problem I got with that is that I got only one car right now, and I cant be out for more than one day. Don will take at least a week, plus I dont even have a garage to let me car sit in while the VB is out. This is going to get complicated.
Dixit
01-28-2002, 10:16 AM
#20
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Originally posted by BigDogJonx
...I got only one car right now, and I cant be out for more than one day. Don will take at least a week, plus I dont even have a garage to let me car sit in while the VB is out...
Dixit
...I got only one car right now, and I cant be out for more than one day. Don will take at least a week, plus I dont even have a garage to let me car sit in while the VB is out...
Dixit
On another note, the jegs kit was 100% complete except for "tube issues", so I am "assuming" that the kit adaptor for the oil filter is universal too? How does it work in the winter time? Does the oil still go through the cooler or it there some kind of thermostate controlled switch? Also do you need to increase the amound of oil in the motor?
01-28-2002, 10:23 AM
#21
Originally posted by Colonel
Dixit! That is why you have your bike! And dont give me that 3 piece suit crap. Reason: I ride to work as often as I can in the fall and spring to unload miles on the car (summer can get to hot with a sweaty helmet). Plus, its just fun tearing up the highway on a bike....can you say dotted line pass...? he he he.
Dixit! That is why you have your bike! And dont give me that 3 piece suit crap. Reason: I ride to work as often as I can in the fall and spring to unload miles on the car (summer can get to hot with a sweaty helmet). Plus, its just fun tearing up the highway on a bike....can you say dotted line pass...? he he he.
Hhahaha, I knew someone was going to respond of that nature. Funny thing is I am not planning on modding a damn thing on the bike, it is pointless. It is already too freagin fast for me.
Dixit
01-28-2002, 10:33 AM
#22
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 2,712
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
True, I do have my bike that can rip damn near any car on the .org. But still, it is fun no doubt, but like you said, can get very very hot on a 90F day. Plus I still want more power on my car, It feel sluggish after riding my bike, need to make it so it dont feel Too sluggish after coming off the bike
Hhahaha, I knew someone was going to respond of that nature. Funny thing is I am not planning on modding a damn thing on the bike, it is pointless. It is already too freagin fast for me.
Dixit
True, I do have my bike that can rip damn near any car on the .org. But still, it is fun no doubt, but like you said, can get very very hot on a 90F day. Plus I still want more power on my car, It feel sluggish after riding my bike, need to make it so it dont feel Too sluggish after coming off the bike
Hhahaha, I knew someone was going to respond of that nature. Funny thing is I am not planning on modding a damn thing on the bike, it is pointless. It is already too freagin fast for me.
Dixit
And a 1000 Gixxer....better beat EVERYTHING on this board...if not you gots a problem...
01-28-2002, 10:44 AM
#23
Originally posted by Colonel
No, no, no....use your bike while the car is outta commish'. And I do know the feeling of speed then get in the car its like. Hello you can accelerate at any time now!
And a 1000 Gixxer....better beat EVERYTHING on this board...if not you gots a problem...
No, no, no....use your bike while the car is outta commish'. And I do know the feeling of speed then get in the car its like. Hello you can accelerate at any time now!
And a 1000 Gixxer....better beat EVERYTHING on this board...if not you gots a problem...
Dixit
01-28-2002, 10:52 AM
#24
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Join Date: Feb 2001
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Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Now I follow you, Hey, you got a Gixxer 1000? shiettttttttttttttttt
Dixit
Now I follow you, Hey, you got a Gixxer 1000? shiettttttttttttttttt
Dixit
I myself run a 98 Honda VFR with carbon High pipe and full TwoBros headers. One you unload all of the heavy crap, remove the 19 million cat/precats/aftercats (Its "was" Cali-Spec), its amazing what she'll do. Plus its awesome opening her up on the highway, tap dance on the shifter and make ricers look stupid.
01-28-2002, 10:55 AM
#25
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BEWARE
99DustMagnet (Alex) had a combo cooler from Summit Racing (the engine/tranny oil cooler) and it was fine for the first year. He was driving up the 405 and heard a LOUD grinding noise from the engine. He pulled over in neutral, the engine was gone. The return line of the oil cooler had broken, subsequently his engine. Luckily he had that stupid warranty on his car and got a new motor. He had to pay up $700 for labor.
I've been thinking of adding a cooler since 97, but I just never got around to it. Just make sure to check the condition of the hoses from time to time.
I've been thinking of adding a cooler since 97, but I just never got around to it. Just make sure to check the condition of the hoses from time to time.
01-28-2002, 11:03 AM
#26
Originally posted by Colonel
Nah, I wish though! But I have a fairly long commute to work and I don't need a back doctor bill! I though yours was until I actually opened my eyes and read it was a 600. Thats no slow machine by any stretch.
I myself run a 98 Honda VFR with carbon High pipe and full TwoBros headers. One you unload all of the heavy crap, remove the 19 million cat/precats/aftercats (Its "was" Cali-Spec), its amazing what she'll do. Plus its awesome opening her up on the highway, tap dance on the shifter and make ricers look stupid.
Nah, I wish though! But I have a fairly long commute to work and I don't need a back doctor bill! I though yours was until I actually opened my eyes and read it was a 600. Thats no slow machine by any stretch.
I myself run a 98 Honda VFR with carbon High pipe and full TwoBros headers. One you unload all of the heavy crap, remove the 19 million cat/precats/aftercats (Its "was" Cali-Spec), its amazing what she'll do. Plus its awesome opening her up on the highway, tap dance on the shifter and make ricers look stupid.
Yeah my Gixxer600 aint a slow machine at all, just that those 1000 are way too much, i mean so much that the bike has more power than it can handle, that is why you notice alot of Gixxer1000 totalled. Cause the rider pushes the bike past it limits, that is the biggest problem i have with the Gixxer1000. If I get rid of my bike this spring, it will be to replace it with the all new Yamaha R1. That is awesome, but my friends tell me no point since i cant even handle the power coming off this gixxer600. They are right, but i am retarded like half of us on the board and just want more power.
Dixit
Dixit
01-28-2002, 11:05 AM
#27
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Re: BEWARE
Originally posted by Kevin Wong
99DustMagnet (Alex) had a combo cooler from Summit Racing (the engine/tranny oil cooler) and it was fine for the first year. He was driving up the 405 and heard a LOUD grinding noise from the engine. He pulled over in neutral, the engine was gone. The return line of the oil cooler had broken, subsequently his engine. Luckily he had that stupid warranty on his car and got a new motor. He had to pay up $700 for labor.
I've been thinking of adding a cooler since 97, but I just never got around to it. Just make sure to check the condition of the hoses from time to time.
99DustMagnet (Alex) had a combo cooler from Summit Racing (the engine/tranny oil cooler) and it was fine for the first year. He was driving up the 405 and heard a LOUD grinding noise from the engine. He pulled over in neutral, the engine was gone. The return line of the oil cooler had broken, subsequently his engine. Luckily he had that stupid warranty on his car and got a new motor. He had to pay up $700 for labor.
I've been thinking of adding a cooler since 97, but I just never got around to it. Just make sure to check the condition of the hoses from time to time.
Thats not funny.....
01-28-2002, 03:27 PM
#28
Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
Kev, I just use a straight dry nitrous kit, but dont use the fuel pressure riser part.
I'll try and get a few pics of the oil cooler install on my car, its kinda wierd looking but it works.
Kev, I just use a straight dry nitrous kit, but dont use the fuel pressure riser part.
I'll try and get a few pics of the oil cooler install on my car, its kinda wierd looking but it works.
01-28-2002, 04:47 PM
#29
Re: BEWARE
Originally posted by Kevin Wong
99DustMagnet (Alex) had a combo cooler from Summit Racing (the engine/tranny oil cooler) and it was fine for the first year. He was driving up the 405 and heard a LOUD grinding noise from the engine. He pulled over in neutral, the engine was gone. The return line of the oil cooler had broken, subsequently his engine. Luckily he had that stupid warranty on his car and got a new motor. He had to pay up $700 for labor.
I've been thinking of adding a cooler since 97, but I just never got around to it. Just make sure to check the condition of the hoses from time to time.
99DustMagnet (Alex) had a combo cooler from Summit Racing (the engine/tranny oil cooler) and it was fine for the first year. He was driving up the 405 and heard a LOUD grinding noise from the engine. He pulled over in neutral, the engine was gone. The return line of the oil cooler had broken, subsequently his engine. Luckily he had that stupid warranty on his car and got a new motor. He had to pay up $700 for labor.
I've been thinking of adding a cooler since 97, but I just never got around to it. Just make sure to check the condition of the hoses from time to time.
01-28-2002, 05:44 PM
#30
Re: BEWARE
Originally posted by Kevin Wong
99DustMagnet (Alex) had a combo cooler from Summit Racing (the engine/tranny oil cooler) and it was fine for the first year. He was driving up the 405 and heard a LOUD grinding noise from the engine. He pulled over in neutral, the engine was gone. The return line of the oil cooler had broken, subsequently his engine. Luckily he had that stupid warranty on his car and got a new motor. He had to pay up $700 for labor.
I've been thinking of adding a cooler since 97, but I just never got around to it. Just make sure to check the condition of the hoses from time to time.
99DustMagnet (Alex) had a combo cooler from Summit Racing (the engine/tranny oil cooler) and it was fine for the first year. He was driving up the 405 and heard a LOUD grinding noise from the engine. He pulled over in neutral, the engine was gone. The return line of the oil cooler had broken, subsequently his engine. Luckily he had that stupid warranty on his car and got a new motor. He had to pay up $700 for labor.
I've been thinking of adding a cooler since 97, but I just never got around to it. Just make sure to check the condition of the hoses from time to time.
01-28-2002, 06:25 PM
#32
hey guys - the size of the filter doesn't matter much. The important things are flow and filtering ability - bigger is not necessarily better. The Nissan OEM filter is a low resistance, high flow filter while at the same time doing an excellent job of filtering - it's comparable to a mobil 1 filter in that I believe it uses synthetic fibers in part. When you examine the Nissan filter and compare it to a Mobil 1, even, you can see right away it's very high quality and very well made.
No offense, but I'm not too crazy about using Fram filters. They are great at marketing but their filters are mediocre; check out this link: Filter Study
I wanted an oil coler kit that used the Nissan OEM filter and the Stillen was really the only option. Plus it's extremely well though out and put together so I'm very confident the likelyhood of problems, leaks or ruptures is very low.
The only thing it's missing in my opinion is a thermostat, because the motor does take longer to get up to operating temp. I'm adding the Permacool thermostat tonight.
So far I'm very happy with the oil cooler - the engine just runs and revs much more effortlessly especially at high rpms!
No offense, but I'm not too crazy about using Fram filters. They are great at marketing but their filters are mediocre; check out this link: Filter Study
I wanted an oil coler kit that used the Nissan OEM filter and the Stillen was really the only option. Plus it's extremely well though out and put together so I'm very confident the likelyhood of problems, leaks or ruptures is very low.
The only thing it's missing in my opinion is a thermostat, because the motor does take longer to get up to operating temp. I'm adding the Permacool thermostat tonight.
So far I'm very happy with the oil cooler - the engine just runs and revs much more effortlessly especially at high rpms!
01-28-2002, 06:44 PM
#33
Originally posted by sleepermax
hey guys - the size of the filter doesn't matter much. The important things are flow and filtering ability - bigger is not necessarily better. The Nissan OEM filter is a low resistance, high flow filter while at the same time doing an excellent job of filtering - it's comparable to a mobil 1 filter in that I believe it uses synthetic fibers in part. When you examine the Nissan filter and compare it to a Mobil 1, even, you can see right away it's very high quality and very well made.
No offense, but I'm not too crazy about using Fram filters. They are great at marketing but their filters are mediocre; check out this link: Filter Study
I wanted an oil coler kit that used the Nissan OEM filter and the Stillen was really the only option. Plus it's extremely well though out and put together so I'm very confident the likelyhood of problems, leaks or ruptures is very low.
The only thing it's missing in my opinion is a thermostat, because the motor does take longer to get up to operating temp. I'm adding the Permacool thermostat tonight.
So far I'm very happy with the oil cooler - the engine just runs and revs much more effortlessly especially at high rpms!
hey guys - the size of the filter doesn't matter much. The important things are flow and filtering ability - bigger is not necessarily better. The Nissan OEM filter is a low resistance, high flow filter while at the same time doing an excellent job of filtering - it's comparable to a mobil 1 filter in that I believe it uses synthetic fibers in part. When you examine the Nissan filter and compare it to a Mobil 1, even, you can see right away it's very high quality and very well made.
No offense, but I'm not too crazy about using Fram filters. They are great at marketing but their filters are mediocre; check out this link: Filter Study
I wanted an oil coler kit that used the Nissan OEM filter and the Stillen was really the only option. Plus it's extremely well though out and put together so I'm very confident the likelyhood of problems, leaks or ruptures is very low.
The only thing it's missing in my opinion is a thermostat, because the motor does take longer to get up to operating temp. I'm adding the Permacool thermostat tonight.
So far I'm very happy with the oil cooler - the engine just runs and revs much more effortlessly especially at high rpms!
01-28-2002, 06:45 PM
#34
Dans referance to Fram was satirical 
(I think) I use a PureOne filter.
A qoute from the artice you referanced...
"Probably the most important value here is the element surface area."
You can make of this statement what you want.
Oh yea, whats the part number of the thermosatic element from permacool?
(I think) I use a PureOne filter.A qoute from the artice you referanced...
"Probably the most important value here is the element surface area."
You can make of this statement what you want.Oh yea, whats the part number of the thermosatic element from permacool?
01-28-2002, 07:47 PM
#36
Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
Dans referance to Fram was satirical (I think) I use a PureOne filter.
A qoute from the artice you referanced...
"Probably the most important value here is the element surface area." You can make of this statement what you want.
Oh yea, whats the part number of the thermosatic element from permacool?
Dans referance to Fram was satirical
(I think) I use a PureOne filter.A qoute from the artice you referanced...
"Probably the most important value here is the element surface area."
You can make of this statement what you want.Oh yea, whats the part number of the thermosatic element from permacool?
Here's where I got the Permacool Oil Thermostat.
Dan - that's Ok, we don't think any less of you for using a one QUART capacity FRAM oil filter!