My 4DSC

Comin down Rt 37 this morning and saw a new style Ford Lightning (supercharged) and a new style Toyota Supra (non-turbo) toying with each other.
So I decided to get in on the action...after messing around for a few minutes we finally were able to line up @ a red light.
BANG! Green light!
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The Supra gets the jump on both of us off the line...
I start gaining on the Supra and eventually overtake him at the top of second gear...
MEANWHILE...this friggin' Ford Lightning screams past the both of us like we were standing still!!
I dunno what this guy had...but i got a feeling he was either running SUPER hi-boost or he had some squirt cuz they way he smoked us he HAD to be running AT LEAST 12's no doubt!
I knew those things were quick cuz i see completely stock ones running 13.80's at the track all the time and lightly modded ones running low 13's...but SHIEEEEEEET this one was MOVING!

Anyone wanna donate to the "My4DSC-needs-boost fund"?!?!

WoodEar

I got beaten in GS400 by F150 lighting before. They are really fast, like hi 13's with an exhaust or something.

My 4DSC

I've seen em go 13.80 stock.
Oh yea...
forgot to mention...
This happen just up the street from "Downs Ford"...
so i'd bet this thing is REALLY fast...

BEWARE in the central Jersey shore area!

Rookwood

If you were against a '99 or 2K L, those models have 360 HP supercharged 4.5 L Triton V8. If if was a 2001 L, add another 15 HP.

Don't feel bad - those trucks are fast! I am surprised that it blew away the Supra, but then anything's possible in street racing.

JULIAN

iTrader: (3)

You both may have beaten by the Ford Lightning, but I sure would rather have the GS400 or the 2K Maxima.

Lordrandall

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The Supra was non-Turbo.

Zprime

wow...dat is fast...
is the mustang faster than?
or ford did something else with mustang?
golly....

Synki

I didnt know the NA Supras were that slow. I know the Lightnings are fast. My cousin has a 99 Lightning SVT w/ intake. His best times is a 13.3 and avg 13.6-13.8 at e-town. Those things are no joke.. super heavy but super fast! Isnt it sad that a stock lightning vs a worked and 5-speed S/Ced max be almost fair?

madmax2k

A Max would have to be seriously worked to run with a Lightning. I doubt an S/C Max would be able to turn low 13's....even on slicks.

My 4DSC

cuz the Lightning is a Supercharged V8...
comparing that to a V6 isn't fair...
but a supercharged 5-speed Maxima will take a Lightning...
I've seen SC Maxima's running low 13's..high 12's.

WoodEar

I doubt it.
Where did you see it and what it looked like?
I highly doubt SC alone will get you low 13's, hi 12's is unheard of.

Nine7Max

I used to goto the illegals down here in central NJ before they had the airport raided by half a million cops and troopers.. anyway this one lightning always used to show up and it was so sweet, very nice trucks

steveyang

it's 5.4 liter 360 hp, so much damn torque and 0-60 of 5.8 sweeeeeet PEACE

Black VQ

If a Lightning does 0-60 in 5.8, that's pretty close to what an SC'd Max can do. I think they are around 5.9 or so. And that was a 4th gen. If you turn a 5th right, it might be able to meet or beat a Lightning. I dunno about 1/4 mile, tho.

madmax2k

I think what he was getting at is that bolting on a Stillen S/C wont get low 13's without alot of other work being done. Ive never heard (except from Stillen of course!) of a Max with nothing but the S/C running low 13's. The fastest Max Ive ever heard of period was reported to run 12.8 and that was with juice.

What are the fastest ET's out there now?

SteveChicagoSC

low 13's to a 12.9 with a chip and K and N air filter.

When I was at the track last weekend there was about six of them. I was impressed!!!!

I lined up with one of them. When the light turned green I bulbed his *** with a .536(.500 is perfect) and he got a 9.47. When we crossed the finish line he took me by six thousands of a second. Damn.

The lightnings will run slower on the street due to traction problems.

AntGVR4

The guys at Etown .. you remeber the lightening's we saw there.. they were running 12's ..

Doug you missed it but Synki, Chris, Quansung.. saw it..
Don't even try to mess with those..

My4DSC: there is a few of them by etown.. i was there last week and two showed up.. did the one that beat you have cleared out rear tailights. ?

Ant

madmax2k

I guess I am not up on the "soap operas" present on this board I hope to stay naive to them

tmax

Yes, those lightnings are really fast. I had one pull away from me easily while we were doing a roll on to the freeway. I saw a review of them on Motor Week. With all the performance that truck puts out the towing/hauling capacity is virtually untouched.

But the way I see it, you can make anything fast if you put a big enough engine in it and then supercharge it. I'll admit that if I got a truck a lightning would be at the top of my list.

TMAX

Synki

Yeah, the ones at e-town when we had our meet were doing low 13's-high 12's. The other guy that i ended up wiht later that say was my cousin. He has a 99 Lightning, his best to date w/ intake was a 13.3 on street tires and 93 octane gas. His avg about 13.6-13.8sec which is pretty damn fast. Like Steve said before he lost by 6 thousands of a sec which is very believeable (Yes i do believe you Steve). It doesnt take much for them badboys to go fast. I say we show em whats up. My cousin says a lot of the Lightning owners laugh at us for even trying.

Lordrandall

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The Bold and the BBS.......

Paul6speed

Yep. 5.4 Triton V8. For 2001 it goes to up to 380 HP and 450 TQ. I saw a 2000 run 13.8 stock with a new driver on his first run.

WoodEar

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One of the first fully tricked out SC Max is Loren in TX, he has SC and many other goodies(260+FWHP), and his best I think was flat 14's, and the problem was traction. Now, I did hear here other SC Maxs did ~13.7 and I believe that. Low 13's I never heard of, and I doubt it's possible with street tires.
Steve, if you mean in Chicago Steve, I don't know, maybe he can speak for himself if he did run low 13's, and tell us what he had on the car and ran on slick or not. If you mean the Phily steve who races a NSX now at E-town, I don't think his Max ever did low 13.s, I mean his NSX does only 13.8 at E-town.
Delo, sorry, don't know him.
Phil, I never even heard that he ran on track after getting SC.

So if anyone with SC really did run 13's with street tire, come out and speak, but with proof please, don't come and say yes my cousin's friend' gf's sister's bf saw a Max ran low 13 somewhere. if I am wrong then I will be more than glad to admit I am wrong.

bt, sure a max can run 12's, the Jamie guy did, with NOS. I don't think it's possible with SC and all bolt-ons.

AntGVR4

Doug's right
Sleeper ran 13.3 at 100.9
and he's in the high 12's by now cuz he got some more mods..

He runs on slicks tho ..
On street tires i doubt he'd grip anything..

Ant

Phil02E46

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i dunno nothing of the sort.. but i can tell you 13s are easy with the right work and launch technique

WoodEar

let him come and speak.

WoodEar

that's the point.
slicks don't count. cuz you can't race a F150 with clicks on street to beat him.

Paul6speed

Also since a Lightning can run 13.8 stock on street tires, it can get into low 12's with NOS and slicks. Maybe lower.

Dany

iTrader: (1)

Yeah but still 13.3 for a Max is pretty fast, I think even with slicks. Very good job sleeper.

I remmember a while back on Andi's BBS, the guy named CLIMAX, he ran I think high 12s. But I think he had NOS and SuperCharger or something else.

WoodEar

of course.
but do remember hi 13's and lo 13's is VERY different.

My 4DSC

a 5-speed Max with a SC and boltons that isn't running AT LEAST low 13's needs to go to driving school...

i saw a guy at Etown a few weeks ago in a white 5-speed 4th gen Maxima with a SC, y-pipe, catback & fuel controller...
and he was running 13.20's all nite...
i asked to see his timeslip and noticed he was pulling crappy 2.4 sec 60' times (on street tires)...

put me behind that wheel and i GUARANTEE 12's.

while i'm on the topic of "guarantees"...
i "guarantee" 12's by the beginning of next season.

WoodEar

ok i guess we just have to wait to see your 12's slip.

My 4DSC

i think my Explorer is FINALLY sold...
and you know where THAT money is going!
if anyone gets ANY info on a good aftermarket clutch for the 2k Max PLEEEEEEEEZ let me know immediately.
Gracias!

DOM

You guys are just talking up your cars. There is no way a modded 3.0 V6 supercharged can beat a 5.4 V8 supercharged. Come on!! Be realistic!! I went to the dealership of Ford and they said that the lightning goes faster than the GT's. How much does the lightning cost? Does the truck weigh that much?

I have a question for you guys? Why would anyone buy a FORD truck with no room, expensive price tag, and 10 mpg if they can mod a Maxima to do just about the same times?
I love my Maxima and it is the best car, but please, lets keep it real. I'm sure I'll probably hear some stories about Maximas vs. Vipers or Porsche 911 turbos.

WoodEar

Can't agree more.
Think about it, 12's for just SC and bolt-ons?? that will be on par with Z8 and F360 likes, those are RWD with 340+hp to the wheels.

Black VQ

More than a Max. Yes.

mike_bresnahan

ya'll amuse me. I didn't buy the max for drag racing. I bought it to be an awesome cruiser. comfy, quiet, quick. better looking than the lightning or rustang too.

Finally got a chance to drive it last Friday. Went a couple of hundred miles through the Texas Hill Country. Passed a LOT of trucks and SUVs that couldn't handle the corners and hills.

If you want to drag buy a cheap-*** american car or truck and take it to the track. Keep the Maxima for cruising.

DOM

You know, I look at that site(can't remember which one)which has the race stories in it. A lot of the stories are ones of Hundai Exel's beating GT's. It is not going to happen! This thread is starting to look like the car war site. I do not think that a Maxima cannot beat any car that is V8 and close to the Maxima's weight. Do you know why? The max is a 6 and the others are 8. I drove next to a 5.0 white trash mobile on the freeway and he pulled away from me so fast. There was no way I could have pulled away the same as him. I did not race because I like my Max power for me, not for anyone else (plus I'm a sore loser).
I do like to fantasize about being the underdog car like all of you 18 year olds and dream about beating a faster car, but a Ford Lightning? No way.
For the great Maxima Drivers--
How does a 222hp Maxima beat an old 5.0 302hp rear wheel stang? I know you will say mods but after my Y pipe and Stillen intake, it still doesn't make that much of a difference.

TexMaximum

What old 5.0 non-modified stang has 305HP? Where do you get your numbers?

Futhermore, I know of plenty of v8 cars the Maxima can take out with light mods and thats with an automatic! I would only hope for even better result in a 5spd.

I can take out old stangs all day, and also raced several mid 90's V-8 T birds. No problem there. Automatic v8 sport dekotas and my friend's 5.9 RT is also a win for the Maxima, though close with the RT. 305 powered 3rd gen v8 camaros and firebirds are also no problem.

To say you can't beat something in a v6 because the other car is a v8 is silly. I guess we can all go out and thrash the s2000 as its only a 4cyl? I think not. There are many factors.

Im not a dreamer, and do own a 355 TPI IROC Z for real races that is moded. Now true, I don't think it will be cake to get the L F150 with just a SC, and some people here do talk up their cars.

QUANSUNG

woodear?