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Old 02-03-2002, 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by mzmtg


Once again, your post has contained no useful or new info. The only thing you seem to be able to contribute, other than simply repeating what others have posted, is poor grammar and bad spelling.
actually... that is my department.. he is my apprentice....




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Slicks or Drag Radials are the only way to plant that power down. Bigger rims/tires might be heavier but will just kill my time. Notice how all people at the track use smaller rim/tire setup. Gripping is all in the tires, not rims.

If bigger was better, would pro's do it then?

Smaller rims also change my final drive ratio. It causes my car to shift earlier meaning i stay int eh power band more. Redlining does nothing for autos. Why redline while you are already dropping in power. Yes, you might be lower in the next set of rpms but your also going to have more torque at lower speeds. SO it works hand in hand.

Sprint, and you know i wont end up using bigger rims.
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Originally posted by Nealoc187
My ex girlfriend has a 99 L. 12.83@108 is her best, and she just dropped $1500 on some new parts last week. Should be around 12.3@113 when she installs them and gets to the track again.
My next car is a used MKIV or def. a L. They are raw power vehicles.

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Slicks or Drag Radials are the only way to plant that power down. Bigger rims/tires might be heavier but will just kill my time. Notice how all people at the track use smaller rim/tire setup. Gripping is all in the tires, not rims.
thats funny.. thats why TheNewClimax is getting 2.3/2.4 60fts on drag radials .. Brett is running Drag Radials and he is still not putting the power down.. .. i guess i will bring up this argument after you buy drag radials or slicks and still can't put the power down..

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If bigger was better, would pro's do it then?
most C5's, Supra's, rx-7's, Lightnings.. .. they all drag on 17's
notice medic ran his best times on 17's? less wheels spin.. better traction.. we all know traction is your enemy.. but hey.. i am done talking..


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Smaller rims also change my final drive ratio. It causes my car to shift earlier meaning i stay int eh power band more. Redlining does nothing for autos. Why redline while you are already dropping in power. Yes, you might be lower in the next set of rpms but your also going to have more torque at lower speeds. SO it works hand in hand.
thats bullsh!t.. the overall diameter is staying the same if you get the right tires size..

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thats funny.. thats why TheNewClimax is getting 2.3/2.4 60fts on drag radials .. Brett is running Drag Radials and he is still not putting the power down.. .. i guess i will bring up this argument after you buy drag radials or slicks and still can't put the power down..


Exactly, I get 2.27 60' times on street tires. Why would he need DRs or slicks?
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Exactly, I get 2.27 60' times on street tires. Why would he need DRs or slicks?
because he can't put the power down
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Originally posted by SprintMax
because he can't put the power down

So haveing less power gets me better 60' times. Why dont Honda drivers use that excuse?
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So haveing less power gets me better 60' times. Why dont Honda drivers use that excuse?
less power.. less spin.. more traction.. better 60ft..
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Originally posted by SprintMax
less power.. less spin.. more traction.. better 60ft..
I know, I was being an a$$.



It all comes out when one sees my best trap speed is 89.1 mph.
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I have no idea why Adam is running terrible 60fts. I dont know many poeple who have that much trouble. BB is staying w/ DR's & getting wider DR's.

I know Greg ran his fastest times on 17's. If that's the case, why did he swap to 15's when he headed to Island?

Supras & all those cars can afford to have 17's b/c they make enough power, i dont.

On the Lightning board, the guys who use DR's & Slocks arent having probs either. They are pulling 1.7-1.6 60ft's. Most of them have them mounted on 16's. The wont evne use the 17's. This explains their fast times yet low trap speeds.

I dont unerstand how 15" DR's (225/45/15) are the same size as 17" (225/45/17) Even if i was using 205/60/15 it woudl be deflated to about 19psi. I think maybe that would sit lower then a deflated 17".

Some people may see it different then i do.
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Nice time Stynki!

How 'bout some slicks?
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Re: Re: Re: Nitrous fed Auto 1/4 Mile Times...

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Yea, i talked to him once. I dont understand how he was so fast for only 40 shot. I was running 14.3@97mph on a 50 shot. I mean i only have a CAI, Y-pipe, & Nitrous. Those are my only mods. I know he ran DR's on his 16's.
Im 99.9% sure he ran street 17" tires when he ran the 14 flat. But, his 60 ft time is where its all at as it was a 2.08-2.09. I think all he had was the Stillen exhaust and the nitrous.

With an auto, it shouldnt be all that hard to get sub 2.2 60 fts on street tires. Ive gotten a best of 2.13 with my 5th gen 5 speed on stock tires and just last Saturday MaxFreak also ran a 2.13 60 ft on 16" street tires with his 5 speed 4th gen. We run at a different track than KMAX98.

Ill see if KMAX98 can email you with his exact setup.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Nitrous fed Auto 1/4 Mile Times...

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Im 99.9% sure he ran street 17" tires when he ran the 14 flat. But, his 60 ft time is where its all at as it was a 2.08-2.09. I think all he had was the Stillen exhaust and the nitrous.

With an auto, it shouldnt be all that hard to get sub 2.2 60 fts on street tires. Ive gotten a best of 2.13 with my 5th gen 5 speed on stock tires and just last Saturday MaxFreak also ran a 2.13 60 ft on 16" street tires with his 5 speed 4th gen. We run at a different track than KMAX98.

Ill see if KMAX98 can email you with his exact setup.
IIRC he ran on 225/50-15" DR's.

My best on 225/50/16 streets is 2.1-ish, I have a set of 15x6 Kosei K1's and 205/50/15 BFG gForce TA DR's that I will be using this season. I am wishing for 1.9's...
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RWD will always be easier to get lower 60' times. This guy got a 1.8 with his 2001 2500HD crew cab 4x4 (just like mine)

2500 HD whoops up on Mustang

I've used all different combinations of wheels/tires in front, my best 60' (1.9) was with 15x8 Custom Bogarts, wrapped with Nitto Drags (225/45/15), with a *hint* of wheel spin.

You gotta find the right combo.
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Originally posted by Synki
Slicks or Drag Radials are the only way to plant that power down. Bigger rims/tires might be heavier but will just kill my time. Notice how all people at the track use smaller rim/tire setup. Gripping is all in the tires, not rims.

If bigger was better, would pro's do it then?

Smaller rims also change my final drive ratio. It causes my car to shift earlier meaning i stay int eh power band more. Redlining does nothing for autos. Why redline while you are already dropping in power. Yes, you might be lower in the next set of rpms but your also going to have more torque at lower speeds. SO it works hand in hand.

Sprint, and you know i wont end up using bigger rims.
I say stick with the 15's and get slicks(soft compound).
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I say stick with the 15's and get slicks(soft compound).
slicks will break his drive shaft eventually if he doesn't have a couple of Don's Secret Mods
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Originally posted by SprintMax
slicks will break his drive shaft eventually if he doesn't have a couple of Don's Secret Mods
Well, after all of the testing of tires he'll need to do, he'll probably have 5 sets of tires in his closet.
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Originally posted by SprintMax
slicks will break his drive shaft eventually if he doesn't have a couple of Don's Secret Mods
I think its better to stick with the Drag Radials. The slicks proved to be TOO sticky. Too much traction can also bog you down off the line, and lower your 60'.

Sometimes I will end up breaking loose and burning the tires to the 1/8 mile (like at HRP on Sept 8th), but I would rather do that than break all my parts.
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Well, after all of the testing of tires he'll need to do, he'll probably have 5 sets of tires in his closet.
It will go good w/ my 4 other sets of rims.

I just dont know if i should stick DR's on my 92 SE (even though its a GXE) rims or stick them on my Steel rims.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Nitrous fed Auto 1/4 Mile Times...

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Im 99.9% sure he ran street 17" tires when he ran the 14 flat. But, his 60 ft time is where its all at as it was a 2.08-2.09. I think all he had was the Stillen exhaust and the nitrous.

With an auto, it shouldnt be all that hard to get sub 2.2 60 fts on street tires. Ive gotten a best of 2.13 with my 5th gen 5 speed on stock tires and just last Saturday MaxFreak also ran a 2.13 60 ft on 16" street tires with his 5 speed 4th gen. We run at a different track than KMAX98.

Ill see if KMAX98 can email you with his exact setup.
Thanks.

I jsut dont understand how his auto pulled those 60ft times w/o some kind of higher stall TC. I know DR's will help but i dont think it can drop me .2-.3 off my 60ft time.

I will be going w/ DR's since i dont think i make enough power for Slicks.
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I think its better to stick with the Drag Radials. The slicks proved to be TOO sticky. Too much traction can also bog you down off the line, and lower your 60'.

Sometimes I will end up breaking loose and burning the tires to the 1/8 mile (like at HRP on Sept 8th), but I would rather do that than break all my parts.
I agree, i would rather get a terrible time then snapping a axle.

Any word on a higher stall TC or new axles?

Help this follow Nitrous guy out. Maybe i can be the "Don Synki" in the NE.
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Originally posted by SprintMax
slicks will break his drive shaft eventually if he doesn't have a couple of Don's Secret Mods
Secret mods? That would be nice to share w/ me.
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Secret mods? That would be nice to share w/ me.
That is easy, higher stall TC + VB mod + smaller tire diameter = mid 13s with 100shot. But then again he runs the JWT n2o program where as you don't. That itself could be the difference there.
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Originally posted by Nismo87SE

That is easy, higher stall TC + VB mod + smaller tire diameter = mid 13s with 100shot. But then again he runs the JWT n2o program where as you don't. That itself could be the difference there.
Yeah, i think the JWT is what does it... too bad im stuck w/ a 99.

I already have Don's VB which i must sy has helped a lot. Im looking into a higher stall TC. Pref around 2800rpms or so. I will be running either 92 SE rims or my 15" steel rims w/ DR's.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nitrous fed Auto 1/4 Mile Times...

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Thanks.

I jsut dont understand how his auto pulled those 60ft times w/o some kind of higher stall TC. I know DR's will help but i dont think it can drop me .2-.3 off my 60ft time.

I will be going w/ DR's since i dont think i make enough power for Slicks.
I emailed him. Hopefully, hell post to the list shortly.
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I had a 40"shot" from NOS, coilovers and all the stillen sway bars. a stillen y-pipe with exhaust and hiflo cat. I raced on 225/45/17 and the car wieght was 3260 with me in it.I would hit the NOS almost off the line(within 15 feet) with 26lbs of air in the tires. 2.06 60' was my best and 14.09@98 was my best time and the 1/8 mile was 8.90@79mph or something like that.If somebody can host the timeslip for me i will emial it to them. I have a scanner but no where to host it. And I have well over 600 runs at the track, so i know what works with my car and what does not.
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I had a 40"shot" from NOS, coilovers and all the stillen sway bars. a stillen y-pipe with exhaust and hiflo cat. I raced on 225/45/17 and the car wieght was 3260 with me in it.I would hit the NOS almost off the line(within 15 feet) with 26lbs of air in the tires. 2.06 60' was my best and 14.09@98 was my best time and the 1/8 mile was 8.90@79mph or something like that.If somebody can host the timeslip for me i will emial it to them. I have a scanner but no where to host it. And I have well over 600 runs at the track, so i know what works with my car and what does not.
my buddy will host for you.. email him.. dougpcs_2000@yahoo.com
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I had a 40"shot" from NOS, coilovers and all the stillen sway bars. a stillen y-pipe with exhaust and hiflo cat. I raced on 225/45/17 and the car wieght was 3260 with me in it.I would hit the NOS almost off the line(within 15 feet) with 26lbs of air in the tires. 2.06 60' was my best and 14.09@98 was my best time and the 1/8 mile was 8.90@79mph or something like that.If somebody can host the timeslip for me i will emial it to them. I have a scanner but no where to host it. And I have well over 600 runs at the track, so i know what works with my car and what does not.
You spay within 15ft? What rpm was your Nitrous engaging at? I dont start spraying till 3400rpms. By that time, i am already past the 60ft mark.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nitrous fed Auto 1/4 Mile Times...

Originally posted by 98MAX
I had a 40"shot" from NOS, coilovers and all the stillen sway bars. a stillen y-pipe with exhaust and hiflo cat. I raced on 225/45/17 and the car wieght was 3260 with me in it.I would hit the NOS almost off the line(within 15 feet) with 26lbs of air in the tires. 2.06 60' was my best and 14.09@98 was my best time and the 1/8 mile was 8.90@79mph or something like that.If somebody can host the timeslip for me i will emial it to them. I have a scanner but no where to host it. And I have well over 600 runs at the track, so i know what works with my car and what does not.

Wow, is that the fastest 40 shot NOS automagic Maxima? No VB upgrade and/or high stall TC? If not,
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he has no secret mods... he is fibbin..

the only "secret" is.
































he really IS slow..
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I ran this with a 100 shot without a bottleheater on a 45 degree day so it wast working efficently.

R/T - .834
60 - 2.425
330 - 6.3
1/8 - 9.43
mph - 78.8
1000 - 12.126
1/4 - 14.375
mph - 100.31
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Originally posted by TILLEYS99
I ran this with a 100 shot without a bottleheater on a 45 degree day so it wast working efficently.

R/T - .834
60 - 2.425
330 - 6.3
1/8 - 9.43
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1000 - 12.126
1/4 - 14.375
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your trap speed shows that your NOS was working great.. its that 60ft thats the problem..

you get yourself a 2.2 or a 2.1 thats .4 to .6 diff off your 1/4 putting you .. 13.9 / 13.7
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your trap speed shows that your NOS was working great.. its that 60ft thats the problem..

you get yourself a 2.2 or a 2.1 thats .4 to .6 diff off your 1/4 putting you .. 13.9 / 13.7
I know I just dont understand it, I only had the NOS for a week at that time and only ran 1 bottle through it when I as at the track it was smoking and running way to rich so I think I could have done better. I finally made a bottle heater and it made a hell of a difference but now its tme to say bye to the bottle.
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I know I just dont understand it, I only had the NOS for a week at that time and only ran 1 bottle through it when I as at the track it was smoking and running way to rich so I think I could have done better. I finally made a bottle heater and it made a hell of a difference but now its tme to say bye to the bottle.
you may not be the only one .. we shall see..
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you may not be the only one .. we shall see..
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both?
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both?
Drop down to 50 shot and do 3.25.
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Drop down to 50 shot and do 3.25.
no

2.XX .. and 50 shot
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no

2.XX .. and 50 shot
Not without stuff being done to your motor first.
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