Most satisfying road kill in a while...ate a 330i
02-27-2002, 03:01 PM
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Most satisfying road kill in a while...ate a 330i
Today is a good day in Tampa. Temp this afternoon dropped to the hi 50's with plenty of sunshine around 3:50 p.m. when this kill happened.
On Fowler Ave. leaving the shop to get on I-275S when a blue 330i with new window stickers whips in front of me. The driver sicks his head out and waves. It's my buddy, Joe from Reeve's with a customer. We get to the onramp and he squeals tires, dust and debris flying up from all the consrtuction. I check traffic and then I to gun it. By the time we reach the end off the onramp, I'm gaining and we're rumbling past offset barricades and a curved concrete wall at over 85 mph (collecting many more road chips in my front-end than I already have).
On the freeway, on in his muffler until the opprtunity presents itself and I drop it to redline in 4th. I look in the mirror occasionally to see them switching lanes back and forth following me but constantly falling back.
Why was this so satisfying. He left first, I caught him, past him and he never gained. Also because I am assured that this kill is not due to driver error or inexperience. I know Joe's driving. I've bought 3 BMW's from him. He later calls about the experience. Tells me that the gentleman riding with him wanted to drive one of their pre-owned S4's. I guess he couldn't stand the thought of buying a $30+K German machine and getting 'dusted' by a NISSAN.
Another reason...I grew tired of leaving Civics, Accords, Integras, Celicas, 528's, Rustangs and things of sort. This has been my most gratifying kill in almost 4 months (a CL-S).
I've been getting dusted by Lighting, GS400's and my friend's M3 Turbo looking for better competition.
On Fowler Ave. leaving the shop to get on I-275S when a blue 330i with new window stickers whips in front of me. The driver sicks his head out and waves. It's my buddy, Joe from Reeve's with a customer. We get to the onramp and he squeals tires, dust and debris flying up from all the consrtuction. I check traffic and then I to gun it. By the time we reach the end off the onramp, I'm gaining and we're rumbling past offset barricades and a curved concrete wall at over 85 mph (collecting many more road chips in my front-end than I already have).
On the freeway, on in his muffler until the opprtunity presents itself and I drop it to redline in 4th. I look in the mirror occasionally to see them switching lanes back and forth following me but constantly falling back.
Why was this so satisfying. He left first, I caught him, past him and he never gained. Also because I am assured that this kill is not due to driver error or inexperience. I know Joe's driving. I've bought 3 BMW's from him. He later calls about the experience. Tells me that the gentleman riding with him wanted to drive one of their pre-owned S4's. I guess he couldn't stand the thought of buying a $30+K German machine and getting 'dusted' by a NISSAN.
Another reason...I grew tired of leaving Civics, Accords, Integras, Celicas, 528's, Rustangs and things of sort. This has been my most gratifying kill in almost 4 months (a CL-S).
I've been getting dusted by Lighting, GS400's and my friend's M3 Turbo looking for better competition.
02-27-2002, 03:30 PM
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aaaww yeah 
Was the 330i stick or auto? I've got the advantage I think, even stock, against all the other 3-series stick or auto. But not the 330i 5spd. I'm hungry to play with one of those
Was the 330i stick or auto? I've got the advantage I think, even stock, against all the other 3-series stick or auto. But not the 330i 5spd. I'm hungry to play with one of those
02-27-2002, 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
aaaww yeah
Was the 330i stick or auto? I've got the advantage I think, even stock, against all the other 3-series stick or auto. But not the 330i 5spd. I'm hungry to play with one of those
aaaww yeah
Was the 330i stick or auto? I've got the advantage I think, even stock, against all the other 3-series stick or auto. But not the 330i 5spd. I'm hungry to play with one of those
Drive a BMW 3, E36 or E46 and you'll wonder why the h*** your steering and handling feels so s*****
02-27-2002, 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by iwannabmw
I think the 330 5 speed would be a close race vs. a 5 speed 4th gen
I think the 330 5 speed would be a close race vs. a 5 speed 4th gen
I can kill an auto 325i but I think that's about it! Anything else and I'm roadkill. Damn auto
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02-27-2002, 04:12 PM
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330 5spd's are definitley a good match for the 4th gen 5spd, i fooled around with a topaz blue one on the highway he had intake and exhaust , depending on when we started pulling on each other it was undecided because i won twice and he won twice??
02-27-2002, 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by iwannabmw
I think the 330 5 speed would be a close race vs. a 5 speed 4th gen
I think the 330 5 speed would be a close race vs. a 5 speed 4th gen
I've been looking at the numbers and the Max actually has a better torque/weight ratio so we could probably get them in shorter races from a stop. But the 330i has a better horsepower/weight ratio so they'll probably take us on longer races, and from a roll on the highway.
They have the edge overall I think, but driver skill level would be a big factor too.
In the twisties they'll take us for sure if we have stock handling.
My $0.02
02-27-2002, 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
That's what I'm thinking too.
I've been looking at the numbers and the Max actually has a better torque/weight ratio so we could probably get them in shorter races from a stop. But the 330i has a better horsepower/weight ratio so they'll probably take us on longer races, and from a roll on the highway.
They have the edge overall I think, but driver skill level would be a big factor too.
In the twisties they'll take us for sure if we have stock handling.
My $0.02
That's what I'm thinking too.
I've been looking at the numbers and the Max actually has a better torque/weight ratio so we could probably get them in shorter races from a stop. But the 330i has a better horsepower/weight ratio so they'll probably take us on longer races, and from a roll on the highway.
They have the edge overall I think, but driver skill level would be a big factor too.
In the twisties they'll take us for sure if we have stock handling.
My $0.02
02-27-2002, 05:34 PM
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My friend has a 2001 auto 330i, I have a '97 SE auto. He takes me both off the line, from a roll, top end, you name it. Not enough to lose me in his rearview mirror or anything, but still a**kicking. I'm waiting to get done with my handling mods and then I'll do performance so I can be up with him and maybe beat him.
02-27-2002, 05:48 PM
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#1 you don't have clear corners so i am going to call BS on this one..
#2 Andi.. you are 2 inches taller than me.. how the hell are you going to fit in a 3 series.. i can't fit in it.. i put the seat all the way back and my knees were still touching the steering wheel.. maybe my legs are longer?
#2 Andi.. you are 2 inches taller than me.. how the hell are you going to fit in a 3 series.. i can't fit in it.. i put the seat all the way back and my knees were still touching the steering wheel.. maybe my legs are longer?
02-27-2002, 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
#2 Andi.. you are 2 inches taller than me.. how the hell are you going to fit in a 3 series.. i can't fit in it.. i put the seat all the way back and my knees were still touching the steering wheel.. maybe my legs are longer?
#2 Andi.. you are 2 inches taller than me.. how the hell are you going to fit in a 3 series.. i can't fit in it.. i put the seat all the way back and my knees were still touching the steering wheel.. maybe my legs are longer?
02-27-2002, 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
#1 you don't have clear corners so i am going to call BS on this one..
#2 Andi.. you are 2 inches taller than me.. how the hell are you going to fit in a 3 series.. i can't fit in it.. i put the seat all the way back and my knees were still touching the steering wheel.. maybe my legs are longer?
#1 you don't have clear corners so i am going to call BS on this one..
#2 Andi.. you are 2 inches taller than me.. how the hell are you going to fit in a 3 series.. i can't fit in it.. i put the seat all the way back and my knees were still touching the steering wheel.. maybe my legs are longer?
02-27-2002, 06:06 PM
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ok .. because i was going to buy a 323i in 1999.. but i couldn't fit in it.. and i gave up on the 323ci for that reason too.. i guess i should have checked again.. but maybe my legs are longer than yours.. you never know..
Originally posted by AndyXXL
Man, I sat in 330ci which is a coupe version and damn, it had more leg room than my max. The dealer said coupe and sedan have the same wheelbase but coupe offers more legroom. Plus you can adjust the steering wheel in 4 different directions.
Man, I sat in 330ci which is a coupe version and damn, it had more leg room than my max. The dealer said coupe and sedan have the same wheelbase but coupe offers more legroom. Plus you can adjust the steering wheel in 4 different directions.
02-27-2002, 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
don't get me wrong.. if someone bought me a E46 M3 i would learn how to deal with the problem
don't get me wrong.. if someone bought me a E46 M3 i would learn how to deal with the problem
LOL...how much you wanna bet I fit in the 330i sedan?
02-27-2002, 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
dude I would chop my longazz legs. As long as they don't take my right arm away
LOL...how much you wanna bet I fit in the 330i sedan?
dude I would chop my longazz legs. As long as they don't take my right arm away
LOL...how much you wanna bet I fit in the 330i sedan?
02-27-2002, 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
you won't.. because the center console on the 3 series is worse than the 5th Gen.. since you like to open your legs to air out your stuff
you won't.. because the center console on the 3 series is worse than the 5th Gen.. since you like to open your legs to air out your stuff
02-27-2002, 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
aaaww yeah
Was the 330i stick or auto? I've got the advantage I think, even stock, against all the other 3-series stick or auto. But not the 330i 5spd. I'm hungry to play with one of those
aaaww yeah
Was the 330i stick or auto? I've got the advantage I think, even stock, against all the other 3-series stick or auto. But not the 330i 5spd. I'm hungry to play with one of those
02-27-2002, 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by CHI99Limited
My mom has a 330i sport auto and would have to say that a stock 5-spd vs the auto 330 would be a pretty good race. I have seen 6.5 0-60 in some mags for auto but think its more like 6.8. If i were a betting man i would have to go with the 330i in a race 0-100 vs a stock 5spd. Also the odds of you taking a 330i 5spd in a stock max are very slim.
My mom has a 330i sport auto and would have to say that a stock 5-spd vs the auto 330 would be a pretty good race. I have seen 6.5 0-60 in some mags for auto but think its more like 6.8. If i were a betting man i would have to go with the 330i in a race 0-100 vs a stock 5spd. Also the odds of you taking a 330i 5spd in a stock max are very slim.
i say with Neal running 14.8 stock and Veetec running 14.7 stock.. its not hard for a stock max to walk a 330i.. most of them run 15.3
02-27-2002, 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
the man with the factory freak is calling odds?
i say with Neal running 14.8 stock and Veetec running 14.7 stock.. its not hard for a stock max to walk a 330i.. most of them run 15.3
the man with the factory freak is calling odds?
i say with Neal running 14.8 stock and Veetec running 14.7 stock.. its not hard for a stock max to walk a 330i.. most of them run 15.3
...and then 14.4 for a clutch dropped (
) 330xi
02-27-2002, 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
www.car-stats.com DB says 14.9, 14.8 (330i), and 14.7 (330Ci)
...and then 14.4 for a clutch dropped ( ) 330xi
www.car-stats.com DB says 14.9, 14.8 (330i), and 14.7 (330Ci)
...and then 14.4 for a clutch dropped (
) 330xi
i base my observations on track stats
02-27-2002, 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
the man with the factory freak is calling odds?
i say with Neal running 14.8 stock and Veetec running 14.7 stock.. its not hard for a stock max to walk a 330i.. most of them run 15.3
the man with the factory freak is calling odds?
i say with Neal running 14.8 stock and Veetec running 14.7 stock.. its not hard for a stock max to walk a 330i.. most of them run 15.3
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02-27-2002, 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by CHI99Limited
Not all stock 5 spd maxs run in the 14s when thier stock, Neal is a hell of a driver Vtec must be too. Im saying this based on my car beating stock 5-spds and i'm almost positive it wont take the 330i from a stop to 100. Also on bimmer.org I have seen time slips for 330i steptronics running very low 15s a few times. Im not trying to start an argument here i was just stating where my $ would be .
Not all stock 5 spd maxs run in the 14s when thier stock, Neal is a hell of a driver Vtec must be too. Im saying this based on my car beating stock 5-spds and i'm almost positive it wont take the 330i from a stop to 100. Also on bimmer.org I have seen time slips for 330i steptronics running very low 15s a few times. Im not trying to start an argument here i was just stating where my $ would be
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your sample is bad.. go away.. you and Andi are BMWashed
02-27-2002, 07:58 PM
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You love ******* my lovely ambers.
With some mods, I'm sure a 330 would do nicely. I have loved every Bimmer I've ever owned (none were left stock).
The main thing I love about this modded Max is that I and 4 of my kids can 'roll out' on many so-called sports cars in my family sedan and never have to worry about reliability. I love to see that surprised look!!!
People expect an MKIV Supra to be fast and run away from Ferrari's, C5's, Porsche's and run Vipers, but not too many people I've met expect a Max to do what it is capable of.
With some mods, I'm sure a 330 would do nicely. I have loved every Bimmer I've ever owned (none were left stock).
The main thing I love about this modded Max is that I and 4 of my kids can 'roll out' on many so-called sports cars in my family sedan and never have to worry about reliability. I love to see that surprised look!!!
People expect an MKIV Supra to be fast and run away from Ferrari's, C5's, Porsche's and run Vipers, but not too many people I've met expect a Max to do what it is capable of.
02-27-2002, 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by Yankee!!!
You love ******* my lovely ambers.
With some mods, I'm sure a 330 would do nicely. I have loved every Bimmer I've ever owned (none were left stock).
The main thing I love about this modded Max is that I and 4 of my kids can 'roll out' on many so-called sports cars in my family sedan and never have to worry about reliability. I love to see that surprised look!!!
People expect an MKIV Supra to be fast and run away from Ferrari's, C5's, Porsche's and run Vipers, but not too many people I've met expect a Max to do what it is capable of.
You love ******* my lovely ambers.
With some mods, I'm sure a 330 would do nicely. I have loved every Bimmer I've ever owned (none were left stock).
The main thing I love about this modded Max is that I and 4 of my kids can 'roll out' on many so-called sports cars in my family sedan and never have to worry about reliability. I love to see that surprised look!!!
People expect an MKIV Supra to be fast and run away from Ferrari's, C5's, Porsche's and run Vipers, but not too many people I've met expect a Max to do what it is capable of.
02-27-2002, 08:45 PM
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My brother owns a 330ci, 5-speed, and that thing is freakin' fast. He can (almost) stay with my other brother in his 1999 Cobra 5-speed.. Both will dust me... (2000 SE 5-speed)..
BTW, I've never sat in a car like the 330 with that much leg room.. Every car I've ever owned the seat is all the way back (including the Max) and I can barely touch the pedals in his if I do that...
If I had $15K more to spend on a car, I'd be driving one right now too!! Guess I'll just have to console myself with MODS...
BTW, I've never sat in a car like the 330 with that much leg room.. Every car I've ever owned the seat is all the way back (including the Max) and I can barely touch the pedals in his if I do that...
If I had $15K more to spend on a car, I'd be driving one right now too!! Guess I'll just have to console myself with MODS...
02-27-2002, 09:42 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yankee!!!
[quote]Again, in tampa and this time on I-275, I have never seen 275 uncround in tampa
That may be due to the fact that you live in Bradenton, my Friend.
I kinda missed Tampa. I worked there from May until Sept 23, shortly after the incident. Missed the warmth, nice beaches, and crazy drivers . I worked for CP Ships, lived in Rocky Point, and drove all kinds of rental cars. Loved the drive to Clearwater, St. Pete, and the who line of beaches. Yeah, this is getting off topic... yuk yuk
[quote]Again, in tampa and this time on I-275, I have never seen 275 uncround in tampa
That may be due to the fact that you live in Bradenton, my Friend.
I kinda missed Tampa. I worked there from May until Sept 23, shortly after the incident. Missed the warmth, nice beaches, and crazy drivers
. I worked for CP Ships, lived in Rocky Point, and drove all kinds of rental cars. Loved the drive to Clearwater, St. Pete, and the who line of beaches. Yeah, this is getting off topic... yuk yuk
02-28-2002, 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by Yankee!!!
You love ******* my lovely ambers.
The main thing I love about this modded Max is that I and 4 of my kids can 'roll out' on many so-called sports cars in my family sedan and never have to worry about reliability. I love to see that surprised look!!!
You love ******* my lovely ambers.
The main thing I love about this modded Max is that I and 4 of my kids can 'roll out' on many so-called sports cars in my family sedan and never have to worry about reliability. I love to see that surprised look!!!
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02-28-2002, 01:15 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yankee!!!
[quote]Again, in tampa and this time on I-275, I have never seen 275 uncround in tampa
That may be due to the fact that you live in Bradenton, my Friend.
No, back in the day when I use to go to tampa palms everyday it was always conjested...Oh well maybe Im seeing things...
[quote]Again, in tampa and this time on I-275, I have never seen 275 uncround in tampa
That may be due to the fact that you live in Bradenton, my Friend.
03-01-2002, 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by JUDE
Honestly, a 330 5spd runs a 6 second flat 0-60. The new altima or the New Maxima will be a good match but stock for stock, a 330i 5spd will beat a stock 4th gen every time.
Honestly, a 330 5spd runs a 6 second flat 0-60. The new altima or the New Maxima will be a good match but stock for stock, a 330i 5spd will beat a stock 4th gen every time.
The 330xi has done 0-60mph in 5.7 seconds.
I'd take a 330 over a new Maxima any day as well.
I like the house analogy, but here's another: why buy a Ferrari that does 4.0 to 60mph when you can buy a Z06 and do the same at less than 1/2 the cost?
03-01-2002, 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
i don't read magazines i base my observations on track stats
i don't read magazines
i base my observations on track stats
03-01-2002, 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by Yankee!!!
but not too many people I've met expect a Max to do what it is capable of.
but not too many people I've met expect a Max to do what it is capable of.
Nothing like the disappointment a guy in his 323i gets when a lowly 3rd gen Max is keeping right up.