Whats the deal with HID's?
03-15-2002, 11:07 PM
#1
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Whats the deal with HID's?
Sure they look phat, but are they necessary? If you are going fast enough to outrun your halogens, HID's will only help you see what you crash into.
This isht ****es me off because every time I drive at night some fool with improperly aimed HID's blinds me. Rice mods usually don't **** me off, to each his own, but being blinded is really getting annoying.
PS. Just venting.
This isht ****es me off because every time I drive at night some fool with improperly aimed HID's blinds me. Rice mods usually don't **** me off, to each his own, but being blinded is really getting annoying.
PS. Just venting.
03-15-2002, 11:24 PM
#2
when did headlights become rice mods?
if thats the case.. why have headlights in the first place? people could have been in an accident so there aiming of the headlight is tilted up, or in other cases they dont know how?
if thats the case.. why have headlights in the first place? people could have been in an accident so there aiming of the headlight is tilted up, or in other cases they dont know how?
03-15-2002, 11:42 PM
#4
Originally posted by StrongIsleMax
I shouldn't have used the word rice, a momentary lapse in judgement. Maybe useless would be better. Useless bodykits and spoilers, although I like some body kits, don't bother me, but being blinded does.
I shouldn't have used the word rice, a momentary lapse in judgement. Maybe useless would be better. Useless bodykits and spoilers, although I like some body kits, don't bother me, but being blinded does.
03-16-2002, 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by StrongIsleMax
I shouldn't have used the word rice, a momentary lapse in judgement. Maybe useless would be better. Useless bodykits and spoilers, although I like some body kits, don't bother me, but being blinded does.
I shouldn't have used the word rice, a momentary lapse in judgement. Maybe useless would be better. Useless bodykits and spoilers, although I like some body kits, don't bother me, but being blinded does.
I adjusted them to factory specs so mine should not bother anybody.
03-16-2002, 08:21 AM
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When ricers started putting in green and purple and blue headlights that do nothing but distract other drivers and reduce visibility on their part.
And if you get into an accident, get that ish fixed!
I'm with StrongIsleMax ... having HIDs are fine ... but when not aimed properly, they can be a hazard to other drivers.
*cough*1hotmax*cough*
And if you get into an accident, get that ish fixed!
I'm with StrongIsleMax ... having HIDs are fine ... but when not aimed properly, they can be a hazard to other drivers.
*cough*1hotmax*cough*
Originally posted by ToYLeT902
when did headlights become rice mods?
if thats the case.. why have headlights in the first place? people could have been in an accident so there aiming of the headlight is tilted up, or in other cases they dont know how?
when did headlights become rice mods?
if thats the case.. why have headlights in the first place? people could have been in an accident so there aiming of the headlight is tilted up, or in other cases they dont know how?
03-16-2002, 08:28 AM
#8
Re: Whats the deal with HID's?
Originally posted by StrongIsleMax
Sure they look phat, but are they necessary? If you are going fast enough to outrun your halogens, HID's will only help you see what you crash into.
This isht ****es me off because every time I drive at night some fool with improperly aimed HID's blinds me. Rice mods usually don't **** me off, to each his own, but being blinded is really getting annoying.
PS. Just venting.
Sure they look phat, but are they necessary? If you are going fast enough to outrun your halogens, HID's will only help you see what you crash into.
This isht ****es me off because every time I drive at night some fool with improperly aimed HID's blinds me. Rice mods usually don't **** me off, to each his own, but being blinded is really getting annoying.
PS. Just venting.
03-16-2002, 08:32 AM
#9
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
Esp the 8000K Philips Kits I have now...made all my other kits look like a joke.
BTW H4 HID kits have a beam correction shield so you will have no problems w/ glare.
Esp the 8000K Philips Kits I have now...made all my other kits look like a joke.
BTW H4 HID kits have a beam correction shield so you will have no problems w/ glare.
Clee if it will make you feel better about peeps with HID's, I refocused mine. Still jhaven't been flashed and its been 2 1/2 months.
03-16-2002, 08:35 AM
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I know there are responsible drivers (such as yourself) and there are those who get HIDS to see the road better, but have no regards for anyone else on the road.
Many ricers are like that. HIDs are bright and nice to see the road, but it's the "It's all about me." attitude that ****es me off.
Many ricers are like that. HIDs are bright and nice to see the road, but it's the "It's all about me." attitude that ****es me off.
Originally posted by deezo
Clee if it will make you feel better about peeps with HID's, I refocused mine. Still jhaven't been flashed and its been 2 1/2 months.
Clee if it will make you feel better about peeps with HID's, I refocused mine. Still jhaven't been flashed and its been 2 1/2 months.
03-16-2002, 09:06 AM
#12
Originally posted by clee130
When ricers started putting in green and purple and blue headlights that do nothing but distract other drivers and reduce visibility on their part.
*cough*1hotmax*cough*
When ricers started putting in green and purple and blue headlights that do nothing but distract other drivers and reduce visibility on their part.
*cough*1hotmax*cough*
i was talking about hyper white headlights.i agree on mr yhai.
03-16-2002, 11:31 AM
#14
Re: Re: Re: Whats the deal with HID's?
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
He's been in my car enough to appreciate HIDs...
You're not the only one w/ HIDs you know
-Mine are brighter than yours.
He's been in my car enough to appreciate HIDs...
You're not the only one w/ HIDs you know
-Mine are brighter than yours.
That's ok Hogan. I just thought there was just anotther person commenting on the usage of HID's instead of the correct use of them.
03-16-2002, 11:35 AM
#15
Re: Whats the deal with HID's?
I agree!!! that crap happens to me every freaking night as I drive down the parkway. some idiot has some bright as afterkarket HIDS...blinding the ever living **** out of me!!!!! ARRRRRGH...if I had some bricks I'd hurl it at their headlights! 
Originally posted by StrongIsleMax
This isht ****es me off because every time I drive at night some fool with improperly aimed HID's blinds me.
This isht ****es me off because every time I drive at night some fool with improperly aimed HID's blinds me.
03-16-2002, 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by clee130
I know there are responsible drivers (such as yourself) and there are those who get HIDS to see the road better, but have no regards for anyone else on the road.
Many ricers are like that. HIDs are bright and nice to see the road, but it's the "It's all about me." attitude that ****es me off.
I know there are responsible drivers (such as yourself) and there are those who get HIDS to see the road better, but have no regards for anyone else on the road.
Many ricers are like that. HIDs are bright and nice to see the road, but it's the "It's all about me." attitude that ****es me off.
03-16-2002, 01:36 PM
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Re: Re: Re: they help me ..
They f*** you with the HIDs. First they blind you, then tell you it's safer. They f*** you with the HIDs. $1295.00 for a f***ing pair of headlights..WTF.
I just watched Lethal Weapon 2. Not intended for those with properly aimed HIDs
I just watched Lethal Weapon 2. Not intended for those with properly aimed HIDs
Originally posted by 97MaxGurl
Yes Sir
Yes Sir
03-16-2002, 02:49 PM
#19
what is wrong with my hid's????
not aimmmmmed propper? i don't see how? they are bright as hell and the aim point is perfect. i can see like 8 blocks ahead. it's beautiful and pretty cause it's purple. don't like it? don't get it. they kind of cost a lot of money in my opinion. this is like my...3...4......kit?
nuff said.......get hid's
nuff said.......get hid's
03-16-2002, 05:06 PM
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Re: ....I know nuttin about f***ing
Originally posted by StrongIsleMax
They f*** you with the HIDs. First they blind you, then tell you it's safer. They f*** you with the HIDs. $1295.00 for a f***ing pair of headlights..WTF.
I just watched Lethal Weapon 2. Not intended for those with properly aimed HIDs
They f*** you with the HIDs. First they blind you, then tell you it's safer. They f*** you with the HIDs. $1295.00 for a f***ing pair of headlights..WTF.
I just watched Lethal Weapon 2. Not intended for those with properly aimed HIDs
03-16-2002, 08:45 PM
#21
i agree.
to tell the truth, in a 9004 housing, the beam pattern is ALL OVER THE PLACE! this will never be fixed unless you make a homemade shield to reflect the light toward a certain direction. anyone who points thier beam downwards towrd the street is not doing anything but loosing/shorting the beam length.
i hate hid haters! i feel anyone who knows the deal with hid's will know the true value and not talk crap about it/ it makes any oem holegen light look like s**t.
ever since my first pair of hid's i've been going crazy about hid's. and yes it's an exciting venture to discover what you can do with light! i give this to hogan who was the first pioneers prototyping for the hid concept on maximas and he was the one who introduced me to what the value was in hid's.
i just got toooooo into it and went crazy! and now to the ppl who diss me on my hid set up, take a close look at it in real life b4 you make any comments. i have spent tooooooo much on my lights for unexperienced hid ppl to diss it like that.
it's the ppl who have hid's that know what i'm talking about. hogan i'm dying to see ur new set up man!
i hate hid haters! i feel anyone who knows the deal with hid's will know the true value and not talk crap about it/ it makes any oem holegen light look like s**t.
ever since my first pair of hid's i've been going crazy about hid's. and yes it's an exciting venture to discover what you can do with light! i give this to hogan who was the first pioneers prototyping for the hid concept on maximas and he was the one who introduced me to what the value was in hid's.
i just got toooooo into it and went crazy! and now to the ppl who diss me on my hid set up, take a close look at it in real life b4 you make any comments. i have spent tooooooo much on my lights for unexperienced hid ppl to diss it like that.
it's the ppl who have hid's that know what i'm talking about. hogan i'm dying to see ur new set up man!
03-16-2002, 10:28 PM
#22
people aren't hating on the use of HIDs, they're hating on improperly aimed and WAAAAAAY to bright HIDs some people use...those are incredibly annoying. I don't care if you live in the darkest place on earth, when I get blinded everytime some guy with too bright HIDs passes by, that **** is plain ridiculous! the concept of HIDs is great, but the ridiculous output some of these kits put out are freaking ridiculous and dangerous to oncoming drivers! thats my $.02!
I don't care if you live in the darkest place on earth, when I get blinded everytime some guy with too bright HIDs passes by, that **** is plain ridiculous! the concept of HIDs is great, but the ridiculous output some of these kits put out are freaking ridiculous and dangerous to oncoming drivers! thats my $.02!
03-17-2002, 11:22 AM
#23
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
HID haters.
Thai, any 9004 housing sux ***** when it comes to controlling 1000+ lumens of light. When you say it lights up a few blocks...its called glare. Lots of glare. Wait til it rains and you get tunnel vision...welcome to the land of glare.
-Peace
HID haters.
Thai, any 9004 housing sux ***** when it comes to controlling 1000+ lumens of light. When you say it lights up a few blocks...its called glare. Lots of glare. Wait til it rains and you get tunnel vision...welcome to the land of glare.
-Peace
03-17-2002, 06:06 PM
#25
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
You just don't know what glare looks like...it's like a wall of light in front of your windshield and you can hardly see since the water droplets are refracting light into your eyes.
Every HID retrofit kit has glare.
You just don't know what glare looks like...it's like a wall of light in front of your windshield and you can hardly see since the water droplets are refracting light into your eyes.
Every HID retrofit kit has glare.
03-17-2002, 07:13 PM
#26
Originally posted by GTRBlkMax97
Well then I must just be a complete dumba$$ since I have nothing like what you describe when I drive mine in the rain, there is a very minimal amount of glare from my headlights in the rain right now, so don't tell me i don't know what glare is thanks
Well then I must just be a complete dumba$$ since I have nothing like what you describe when I drive mine in the rain, there is a very minimal amount of glare from my headlights in the rain right now, so don't tell me i don't know what glare is thanks
If you refocus them down, the glare will not be bad at all to oncoming traffic.
03-17-2002, 07:20 PM
#27
Originally posted by GTRBlkMax97
Well then I must just be a complete dumba$$ since I have nothing like what you describe when I drive mine in the rain, there is a very minimal amount of glare from my headlights in the rain right now, so don't tell me i don't know what glare is thanks
Well then I must just be a complete dumba$$ since I have nothing like what you describe when I drive mine in the rain, there is a very minimal amount of glare from my headlights in the rain right now, so don't tell me i don't know what glare is thanks
Can someone spell out exactly what glare is instead of giving an example that is not patently obvious to my Hanabi-retrofit-lovin' azz? From the discussion here, is it more than light that is reflected above the horizontal? Why wouldn't droplets of rain refract light of any origin? As far as blinding oncoming traffic, I've have seen several cars with "blinding" headlights--some HID's, some halogens. Most of the HiD's appeared to be on higher end cars that probably came with factory units.
03-17-2002, 07:29 PM
#28
Re: i agree.
Originally posted by 1HOTMAX
to tell the truth, in a 9004 housing, the beam pattern is ALL OVER THE PLACE! this will never be fixed unless you make a homemade shield to reflect the light toward a certain direction.
to tell the truth, in a 9004 housing, the beam pattern is ALL OVER THE PLACE! this will never be fixed unless you make a homemade shield to reflect the light toward a certain direction.
03-17-2002, 08:47 PM
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Re: Re: i agree.
Originally posted by ßaller
What kind of shield are you talking about? Any info on this home-made shield is appreciated. By the way, I have no problems with my HIDs, they have been aimed properly. Also, I think that my lights had gotten it's burn-in period. It does not look pinkish anymore, it looks purple-whitish now, which blends in well.
What kind of shield are you talking about? Any info on this home-made shield is appreciated. By the way, I have no problems with my HIDs, they have been aimed properly. Also, I think that my lights had gotten it's burn-in period. It does not look pinkish anymore, it looks purple-whitish now, which blends in well.
Thats weird, i have had my kit some weeks now and one is somewhat pinkish or so while the other is really blue. What in the heck is goin on here....i need advice. I even switched the bulbs to the other side and the colors stayed the same to each bulb....is there something wrong with my bulbs?
03-17-2002, 10:11 PM
#30
Re: Re: Re: i agree.
Originally posted by NYBlakMaxx
Thats weird, i have had my kit some weeks now and one is somewhat pinkish or so while the other is really blue. What in the heck is goin on here....i need advice. I even switched the bulbs to the other side and the colors stayed the same to each bulb....is there something wrong with my bulbs?
Thats weird, i have had my kit some weeks now and one is somewhat pinkish or so while the other is really blue. What in the heck is goin on here....i need advice. I even switched the bulbs to the other side and the colors stayed the same to each bulb....is there something wrong with my bulbs?
03-18-2002, 02:24 AM
#32
Re: Re: Re: i agree.
Originally posted by NYBlakMaxx
Thats weird, i have had my kit some weeks now and one is somewhat pinkish or so while the other is really blue. What in the heck is goin on here....i need advice. I even switched the bulbs to the other side and the colors stayed the same to each bulb....is there something wrong with my bulbs?
Thats weird, i have had my kit some weeks now and one is somewhat pinkish or so while the other is really blue. What in the heck is goin on here....i need advice. I even switched the bulbs to the other side and the colors stayed the same to each bulb....is there something wrong with my bulbs?
03-18-2002, 03:50 AM
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A word of advice >>
Originally posted by StrongIsleMax
Sure they look phat, but are they necessary? If you are going fast enough to outrun your halogens, HID's will only help you see what you crash into.
This isht ****es me off because every time I drive at night some fool with improperly aimed HID's blinds me. Rice mods usually don't **** me off, to each his own, but being blinded is really getting annoying.
PS. Just venting.
Sure they look phat, but are they necessary? If you are going fast enough to outrun your halogens, HID's will only help you see what you crash into.
This isht ****es me off because every time I drive at night some fool with improperly aimed HID's blinds me. Rice mods usually don't **** me off, to each his own, but being blinded is really getting annoying.
PS. Just venting.
http://www.powerbulbs.com/
or
http://www.autolamps-online.com/home.htm
Order up a pair of Philips VisionPlus bulbs in H4 and you'll be plenty satisfied. The added brightness of those HID conversions kits is not worth the increased glare and the loss of highbeams.
My $0.02.
03-18-2002, 04:42 AM
#34
Re: Re: Re: i agree.
Originally posted by NYBlakMaxx
Thats weird, i have had my kit some weeks now and one is somewhat pinkish or so while the other is really blue. What in the heck is goin on here....i need advice. I even switched the bulbs to the other side and the colors stayed the same to each bulb....is there something wrong with my bulbs?
Thats weird, i have had my kit some weeks now and one is somewhat pinkish or so while the other is really blue. What in the heck is goin on here....i need advice. I even switched the bulbs to the other side and the colors stayed the same to each bulb....is there something wrong with my bulbs?
03-18-2002, 04:45 AM
#35
Re: A word of advice >>
Originally posted by Albertt
Just be glad your 5th Gen has HB2 headlamps. Don't bother with those scrappy HID conversions, save you money, go to:
http://www.powerbulbs.com/
or
http://www.autolamps-online.com/home.htm
Order up a pair of Philips VisionPlus bulbs in H4 and you'll be plenty satisfied. The added brightness of those HID conversions kits is not worth the increased glare and the loss of highbeams.
My $0.02.
Just be glad your 5th Gen has HB2 headlamps. Don't bother with those scrappy HID conversions, save you money, go to:
http://www.powerbulbs.com/
or
http://www.autolamps-online.com/home.htm
Order up a pair of Philips VisionPlus bulbs in H4 and you'll be plenty satisfied. The added brightness of those HID conversions kits is not worth the increased glare and the loss of highbeams.
My $0.02.
Scrappy my a$$! Have you even had a chance to hold a Hanabi kit in your hands? If Hanabi's were scrappy, I would have sent them back to Freddie.
03-18-2002, 05:38 AM
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Deezo >>
Originally posted by deezo
Sure those bulbs are better than any HID conversion.
Sure those bulbs are better than any HID conversion.
[i]Scrappy my a$$! Have you even had a chance to hold a Hanabi kit in your hands? If Hanabi's were scrappy, I would have sent them back to Freddie. [/B]
03-18-2002, 05:41 AM
#37
Re: Deezo >>
Originally posted by Albertt
Yes. Using those bulbs in an OE headlamp is better than any aftermarket HID conversion kit.
Yes. Using those bulbs in an OE headlamp is better than any aftermarket HID conversion kit.
Ok, I take back the "scrappy" part. Those Hanabi kits are very well made and packaged.
03-18-2002, 05:47 AM
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Re: Re: Deezo >>
Originally posted by deezo
Not.
Not.
[i]You don't have to agree with us guys with the kit but just give credit where credit is due. I mean really, my Hanabi's are holding up with everyday driving with no problems at all so they've done something right. I agree that they should have a shield on them though. [/B]
03-18-2002, 05:50 AM
#39
Re: Re: Re: Deezo >>
Originally posted by Albertt
Have you seen an HB2 lamp with VisionPlus bulbs installed? I have and I can say that I would prefer them over any currently marketed HID conversion kit. And we all know how fanatical I am about lighting.
Have you seen an HB2 lamp with VisionPlus bulbs installed? I have and I can say that I would prefer them over any currently marketed HID conversion kit. And we all know how fanatical I am about lighting.
Ok, here's the credit due. "HIDs are brighter". [/B]
03-18-2002, 05:54 AM
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Deezo, can't meet your "challenge" >>
Originally posted by deezo
If you have them, bring them to the Pike this Spring/Summer and we shall see which has mor usable light.
HID's are better.
If you have them, bring them to the Pike this Spring/Summer and we shall see which has mor usable light.
HID's are better.
Oh, and yes, OE HIDs are better than an HB2 with VisionPlus.