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Old Mar 22, 2002 | 05:28 AM
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Wards should be made aware for VQ reevaluation/removal from list

I like many experienced excessive oil consumption after about 45k miles. Then like many the oil sender was replaced. That definitely stopped the 1 quart every 1,000 mile problem. However, after driving 4k miles, the oil is low again. To think that a motor can have 59k miles and oil consumption is an issue, well, such a motor should not be on any "best" list. People are spending 26k+ on a 2k2 Maxima, and probably 50k down the road they're gonna experience the same thing. No, that's not acceptable. One should not even have to consider rings, pistons, seals, valve guides at 50k. And the solution is not some $400+ job of checking the timing case gaskets, cam seals, I mean does anyone think that's absurd? Maybe at 250,000 miles, but not 50.

Yes, the sender is one part of the problem. But nobody seems to have the answer to the rest of it. My Volvo had 240,000 miles and it consumed 0 oil between changes. The oil stayed clear for about 1k too which I miss! Hey, as long as you have 18's who cares about the motor, right? My weekend is starting now so I could care less about this oil problem now, I'll worry about it next week. Have a good weekend and behave yourselves fellas.
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 05:34 AM
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Re: Wards should be made aware for VQ reevaluation/removal from list

Many? You are like 1 person out of 10,000 people on this forum that I have seen complain about this. There are many many more owners out there in the world today that do not have this problem either. It's possible of a few things.

1) Defective rings or parts from the factory, it happens.
2) You did not break your car in properly.
3) You switched to Synthetic too soon, before 9k of miles
4) You abuse the car to the point where its using oil now.

That VQ engine is one of the best engines, and I have never seen one VQ burn oil like yours.

Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
I like many experienced excessive oil consumption after about 45k miles. Then like many the oil sender was replaced. That definitely stopped the 1 quart every 1,000 mile problem. However, after driving 4k miles, the oil is low again. To think that a motor can have 59k miles and oil consumption is an issue, well, such a motor should not be on any "best" list. People are spending 26k+ on a 2k2 Maxima, and probably 50k down the road they're gonna experience the same thing. No, that's not acceptable. One should not even have to consider rings, pistons, seals, valve guides at 50k. And the solution is not some $400+ job of checking the timing case gaskets, cam seals, I mean does anyone think that's absurd? Maybe at 250,000 miles, but not 50.

Yes, the sender is one part of the problem. But nobody seems to have the answer to the rest of it. My Volvo had 240,000 miles and it consumed 0 oil between changes. The oil stayed clear for about 1k too which I miss! Hey, as long as you have 18's who cares about the motor, right? My weekend is starting now so I could care less about this oil problem now, I'll worry about it next week. Have a good weekend and behave yourselves fellas.
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 05:46 AM
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Re: Re: Wards should be made aware for VQ reevaluation/removal from list

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Many? You are like 1 person out of 10,000 people on this forum that I have seen complain about this. There are many many more owners out there in the world today that do not have this problem either. It's possible of a few things.

1) Defective rings or parts from the factory, it happens.
2) You did not break your car in properly.
3) You switched to Synthetic too soon, before 9k of miles
4) You abuse the car to the point where its using oil now.

That VQ engine is one of the best engines, and I have never seen one VQ burn oil like yours.

3) You can still break in a car with synthetic oil, that's an old myth.

4) I beat my car on regular basis and don't have consumption problems

I agree that this seems to be more of an isolated incident. I know plenty of people with high mileage Maxima's that don't burn any oil.
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 05:56 AM
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I'm basically agreeing with Russ. It is quite rare to see the VQ consume oil. They just don't do it.


Have you replaced the sender unit again? Did you use an aftermarket replacement, or did you go back to a Nissan OEM unit?

I think you are jumping to conclusions.
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 06:06 AM
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a constructive nissan comment from russ? i can't believe it. j/k russ...

but yeah, i'm agreeing with russ on this one - you're going a little far saying that the engine should be taken off "best" lists. to be honest, you're one of the few people to complain about this problem. even on a web board like this, where 80% of the members here really beat on the engine and modify it and race it hard, very few have had significant engine problems. that speaks volumes for this engine.
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a constructive nissan comment from russ? i can't believe it. j/k russ...

but yeah, i'm agreeing with russ on this one - you're going a little far saying that the engine should be taken off "best" lists. to be honest, you're one of the few people to complain about this problem. even on a web board like this, where 80% of the members here really beat on the engine and modify it and race it hard, very few have had significant engine problems. that speaks volumes for this engine.
wize guy! :P
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 06:20 AM
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Wow, I feel pretty damn lucky then.......

My VQ has 140K miles on it and oil consumption is wonderful with this engine. I lose maybe a half quart over a 7000 mile interval. I always change oil at 7000 miles due to my frequent highway driving and she still purrrrrs.

No complaints here!
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 06:25 AM
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Re: Wards should be made aware for VQ reevaluation/removal from list

Maybe its your oil switch thats leaking?
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 06:35 AM
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Re: Wards should be made aware for VQ reevaluation/removal from list

Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
The oil stayed clear for about 1k too which I miss!
Trying to tell people oil color has ZERO to do with its effectiveness at lubricating or protecting your engine:

Old Mar 22, 2002 | 06:40 AM
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Is this just a 5th gen problem?
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 06:48 AM
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Re: Wards should be made aware for VQ reevaluation/removal from list

Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
I like many experienced excessive oil consumption after about 45k miles.


Can I see the list you've compiled of all the members who have had this problem?

Then like many the oil sender was replaced.


So, you're saying only after 45k the oil sender goes and causes the oil consumption or that something else causes the problem?

That definitely stopped the 1 quart every 1,000 mile problem.


Ok, so it was the sender unit causing the issue?

However, after driving 4k miles, the oil is low again.


Did you replace the sender unit again or even bother checking it?

To think that a motor can have 59k miles and oil consumption is an issue, well, such a motor should not be on any "best" list.


I'm curious as to how:

A) You went from 45k to 59k miles, when you stated the oil consumed again after 49k

B) Why you didn't try replacing the oil sending unit again.

C) How the motor all of a sudden had other issues than just the sending unit.

Your statements are inconsistent.

People are spending 26k+ on a 2k2 Maxima, and probably 50k down the road they're gonna experience the same thing. No, that's not acceptable.


Probably? This sounds like a knee-jerk reaction.

One should not even have to consider rings, pistons, seals, valve guides at 50k. And the solution is not some $400+ job of checking the timing case gaskets, cam seals, I mean does anyone think that's absurd? Maybe at 250,000 miles, but not 50.


How the hell did you get from a oil sending unit to basically needing to replace every major seal and gasket on your engine? Are you actually paying attention to what you type?

Yes, the sender is one part of the problem. But nobody seems to have the answer to the rest of it.


The common sense approach would be:

A) To check the sending unit for leaks.

B) Replace it regardless.

C) Start visually inspecting the engine after a long run with a flashlight to see if you can see anything.

D) Place newspapers, etc. under where you park to see if you can get a visual on where it's leaking.

E) See if a new sender unit corrects the problem again.

F) Not b!tch on this forum to us for a problem you have and then diss the VQ because of a part problem until you know for sure where the oil is going.

My Volvo had 240,000 miles and it consumed 0 oil between changes.


www.volvocars.com

Pick one in a nice blue color and go away.

Hey, as long as you have 18's who cares about the motor, right?


The implication that all of us here are too stupid and/or unwilling to help isn't appreciated in any forum I moderate. Please know your role and shut your mouth, except when you have something more intelligent to contribute than "haha, I'm smarter than all of you when it comes to motors even though you all know more about 18" rims but I am still coming here seeking help on my VQ but I already know I won't get it because all of y'all don't know squat about cars or engines in general just rice-boy mods so I'll just say the VQ is **** to get some response".

My weekend is starting now so I could care less about this oil problem now, I'll worry about it next week. Have a good weekend and behave yourselves fellas.
If it's not a big deal, then why bother posting your issue?


Have a nice day.

Old Mar 22, 2002 | 06:50 AM
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Re: Re: Wards should be made aware for VQ reevaluation/removal from list

Originally posted by 190hpKiLLA
Maybe its your oil switch thats leaking?
Did you read his post?

oil sender = oil switch = ops = oil pressure sending unit = usual cause for such leaks and when installed improperly can still be a source of leaks
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 06:58 AM
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There is a difference between consuming oil and leaking oil. Did you fix all the leaks?
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Old Mar 22, 2002 | 08:08 AM
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I think you have no idea what you are talking about.
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 08:38 AM
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Yep, Bill's on a rampage
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 09:06 AM
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Re: Wow, I feel pretty damn lucky then.......

Originally posted by 2ndMAX
My VQ has 140K miles on it and oil consumption is wonderful with this engine. I lose maybe a half quart over a 7000 mile interval. I always change oil at 7000 miles due to my frequent highway driving and she still purrrrrs.

No complaints here!
Steady highway driving is pretty easy on the engine. It's stop and go in traffic that is hard on it. The hardest daily thing is probably cold starts, the worst thing is overheating ...
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Originally posted by iwannabmw
Yep, Bill's on a rampage
I'm just racist against people who don't bother thinking about what they are about to type nor construct sentences to reflect reality as best they can rather than rambling and not being clear on a problem they are having or giving a better description of symptoms so that we are able to help out.

I haven't even gotten testy yet.
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I'm basically agreeing with Russ.
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scary, isn't it?
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 09:52 AM
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I'm just racist against people...

I haven't even gotten testy yet.
Uh...racist?

I can tell when you're testy - you break out the bullets.
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scary, isn't it?
You know what they say - **** happens.
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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I just hope nissan didn't do the same thing as I found in 2 of my transmissions. That being using the same exact shims in both transmissions. So far it seems nobody has busted motor problems, except with NOS going bad or superchargers...
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when bill comes...

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Old Mar 22, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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Wow 1 quart every 1k miles. I'm wondering if you've noticed a drop in fuel economy and oil burning exhaust smoke. Also did you run a compression or leak down test. My VG 220k miles did 168-172psi across all 6 cylinders. Pull the plugs and see if they are oil soaked, other than that you must have a leak somewhere.
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hehehe...bill cracks me up
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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I have 1 thing to say.

Bill is the man
Old Mar 22, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe


I'm just racist against people


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