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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 10:43 PM
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Re: Just disconnect the cat to check Y-pipe flex sec

That'll be slightly harder for me since I have a universal hi-flow cat. Oh well. Has Warpspeed encountered the same frequency and/or type of failure on their flex's? I just don't want to be constantly wondering if my flex is holding up. I'm starting to have nightmares of that picture Eric posted.
Old Mar 25, 2002 | 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax
mine had the EXACT same problem....except my hole was even smaller!!! Mine was no bigger than a pea....

I notified Brian Catts of my problem...and he basically told me to get lost....this is the second time my flex has failed in 1 year and the first time he fixed it no problem...but now he says it's a re-occuring problem with only one car and one driver...so it's somehow my fault!!!! WTF????

I'm sending my pipe to Warpspeed so they can put a WSP flex on it.
see this is what pi$$es me off about cattman..if you have a case of failure..he'll never blame the product. he'll blame the driver/owner. given he sometimes gets the "i ran over a curb and now the Y is busted BS warranty claim"..but in this case it's a ligit warranty issue. you can see he's waiting until the masses are looking at their pipe and finally he sees a problem with the flexes he uses...and NOW he is going to fix the ones under warranty.
why couldn't he hear out BriGuyMax here?? why did everyone had to check their pipes to see if they were failing and in fact they were to finally fix them?
i didn't hear the story..i'm not the one making the warranty claim..so Briguymax if you can shed some light on this...it would be great.
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax
mine had the EXACT same problem....except my hole was even smaller!!! Mine was no bigger than a pea....

I notified Brian Catts of my problem...and he basically told me to get lost....


Ok, you told him about the problem and he did nothing.....

this is the second time my flex has failed in 1 year and the first time he fixed it no problem...but now he says it's a re-occuring problem with only one car and one driver...so it's somehow my fault!!!! WTF????


.....and now comes the contradiction that he did fix it once, which you failed to mention initially. BriGuy that's not the right way to state your case and you know it. It leaves a false impression of how Cattman handles warranty issues.

At the time, it WAS a recurring problem with only one customer. He did the proper thing.

Keep in mind for every legitimate (yours) claim there are others (KCTYPHOON) which are not. It's not exactly easy to discern the real problems from the fantasy ones.

I'm sending my pipe to Warpspeed so they can put a WSP flex on it.
You are probably already aware of this:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=107657
Old Mar 25, 2002 | 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by DanNY
see this is what pi$$es me off about cattman..if you have a case of failure..he'll never blame the product. he'll blame the driver/owner. given he sometimes gets the "i ran over a curb and now the Y is busted BS warranty claim"..but in this case it's a ligit warranty issue. you can see he's waiting until the masses are looking at their pipe and finally he sees a problem with the flexes he uses...and NOW he is going to fix the ones under warranty.


Uh, that's how defects are discovered. As BriGuy stated, Cattman already fixed it once. Your implication that he ONLY blames the driver is misleading.

The ONLY way he can discern fantasy y-pipe problems from real is IF the masses get together and say there's a problem. To b!tch further about it now that he is offering a fix is rather pointless....
Old Mar 25, 2002 | 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe


At the time, it WAS a recurring problem with only one customer. He did the proper thing.

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ok bill...riddle me this...
if it WAS a recurring problem with only ONE customer...would it be a good idea to investigate WHY only this guy's pipe is failing (at the time)? why didn't cattman want to look at the pipe before he turned him away the 2nd time?

maybe to make design improvements? i mean cattman did make a few changes in his y-pipe design..why? because the other designs weren't up to par.
Old Mar 25, 2002 | 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by DanNY


ok bill...riddle me this...
if it WAS a recurring problem with only ONE customer...would it be a good idea to investigate WHY only this guy's pipe is failing (at the time)? why didn't cattman want to look at the pipe before he turned him away the 2nd time?

maybe to make design improvements? i mean cattman did make a few changes in his y-pipe design..why? because the other designs weren't up to par.
Well, an ounce of investigation on these forums would reveal BriGuy's nitrous upgrade and track runs, which means there is the possibility of motor mounts, etc. causing unnecessary stress on the pipe.

I agree it's an odd case, but I'm not sure I would have done the repair the second time, especially since Cattman has one on his own vehicle and hasn't experienced that issue. He made a bad judgment in this instance, but that doesn't make him "evil" or unwilling to do what he can. I would love to see what $tillen would have done....

I'm not interested in seeing unnecessary brow-beating when steps are already being taken to correct the issue. Hindsight is 20-20.
Old Mar 25, 2002 | 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe


Well, an ounce of investigation on these forums would reveal BriGuy's nitrous upgrade and track runs, which means there is the possibility of motor mounts, etc. causing unnecessary stress on the pipe.

I agree it's an odd case, but I'm not sure I would have done the repair the second time, especially since Cattman has one on his own vehicle and hasn't experienced that issue. He made a bad judgment in this instance, but that doesn't make him "evil" or unwilling to do what he can. I would love to see what $tillen would have done....

I'm not interested in seeing unnecessary brow-beating when steps are already being taken to correct the issue. Hindsight is 20-20.
i never said he's a evil man or a bad guy.
but i still think cattman should've at least take a look at it before he told him to take a hike. but that's me and that's him.

true that his pipe did take a beating..but if he didn't run his car hard then why bother getting a "performance Y-pipe" when a cheapie OE replacement would do?
Old Mar 25, 2002 | 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by DanNY


i never said he's a evil man or a bad guy.
but i still think cattman should've at least take a look at it before he told him to take a hike. but that's me and that's him.

true that his pipe did take a beating..but if he didn't run his car hard then why bother getting a "performance Y-pipe" when a cheapie OE replacement would do?
Yeah, I would have probably done something the second time and then said "that's it".

And I agree, aftermarket y's should be able to withstand MORE abuse than stock ones.....just throwing that carrot out there as a crutch that could be stood on when denying warranty.....
Old Mar 25, 2002 | 07:16 AM
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has anyone that participated in the last GD of cattman y pipes checked theirs yet? i am assuming that those could be affected as well. just wondering if anyone else has had this shrinkage from the last group deal.
Old Mar 25, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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I'd be interested to see if many Stillen owners have had any problems with their pipes. Seeing that most of Stillen's flex sections aren't lined is there any possibility of having a blocked flex section? I will be checking mine on Saturday, but I doubt Cattman is the only pipe with problems. I have no problem with Cattman, Stillen, or WSP, but everyone seems to forget that Stillen and Cattman Ypipes have been on most cars longer than the WSP pipes. This isn't really a "normal wear and tear" issue, but I'm sure the flex sections take a lot of abuse.
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Old Mar 30, 2002 | 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by sloppymax
has anyone that participated in the last GD of cattman y pipes checked theirs yet? i am assuming that those could be affected as well. just wondering if anyone else has had this shrinkage from the last group deal.
I think I'm gonna check mine. Is there any way to tell besides taking it off? I get an annoying rattle/buzzing sound up to 3k rpms. Could it be that?
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 02:58 PM
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This thread has a good pic of the problem so I'm keeping it alive .. I'll have to check it out when I get my car back from the body shop ... sheesh ...
Old Apr 13, 2002 | 06:41 PM
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Blah blah blah, yada yada yada. TOnight i swapped my cattman ypipe for my stock pipe. Damn this thing is quiet! I noticed some of the flex section starting to come off on one side on mine, as suspected. I was getting nasty exhaust fumes smell from underneat the car and a hissing sound recently. The pipe had fitment problems, and made a small indent on it fromt he long black bar that runs underneath the engine. I'll take a picture of it another time.
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 07:33 AM
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Does anyone know/have a picture of what a good flex looks like?? Is the diameter of the flex slightly smaller than that of the pipe?

Finally looked at mine - it is off the car - and the diameter of the flex is slightly smaller than the rest of the pipe.

For reference, I have the small flex version like the one above in 2k2demax's picture but it has not shrunk as much as his (if it has shrunk at all).

I'm trying to figure out if I've got the beginning of the problem or if my pipe is normal.
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by Max_Gator
Does anyone know/have a picture of what a good flex looks like?? Is the diameter of the flex slightly smaller than that of the pipe?

Finally looked at mine - it is off the car - and the diameter of the flex is slightly smaller than the rest of the pipe.

For reference, I have the small flex version like the one above in 2k2demax's picture but it has not shrunk as much as his (if it has shrunk at all).

I'm trying to figure out if I've got the beginning of the problem or if my pipe is normal.
There should be no constriction/shrinkage at all. I looked at my new flex before the muffler guy welded it on and there was absolutely no constriction. The diameter was the same all the way through.

John, I would venture a guess and say that yours is perhaps at the beginning of the end.
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Kinda what I thought. I'll e-mail you separately to where you got yours fixed.

Thanks.
Old May 6, 2002 | 10:00 PM
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Re: Oh my Lord, my Cattman Y also sufferes from shrinking flex!!! ~~ Read this!

Originally posted by ericdwong
I am doing some work on my car today, including preparing for poly control arm bushings, polyurethaning the remaining motor mounts, and fixing of my Y pipe as well as some misc. stereo stuff, so the car is gonna be outta commision again. No matter, i've got the honda 2 wheeler and my mom's camry to drive.

OK heres the deal, I peeked in my Y pipe, and sure enough, at the flex section it had bunched up into a teeny tiny hole, mine about the size of a nickel. I am going to see if I can get my friend's digital camera to take a picture of this phenomena. Its really wierd, because the stuff I see is all neatly woven, so its not like its just a random conglomerate of stuff just tossed together. Just to make sure it was not something that happens with a flex joint, I peered into my stock Y pipe's flex, and that did not suffer this problem at all. This is so odd.

Its amazing how the car even ran flat 15s and come to think I thought that was normal. Now, this really makes me wonder what my car is capable of running. I was happy with my times last night, but damn if I got a real Y pipe without a 1/2 inch restriction in the flex section, this thing should be a monster!
Its funny as hell the fact that when the budget y pipe came out how he bashed them for inferior materials and craftsmanship and its his y-pipes that suck
Old May 7, 2002 | 05:48 AM
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my flex section on my catman pipe is gone too
Old May 7, 2002 | 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
my flex section on my catman pipe is gone too
That sucks. We just have no luck with Y-pipes!!
Old May 7, 2002 | 08:02 AM
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I dynoed about 2 1/2 weeks ago at 172 wheel hp. Would it be safe to assume that my cattman is OK without visually inspecting?

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Old May 7, 2002 | 08:29 AM
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It depends

Originally posted by dwapenyi
I dynoed about 2 1/2 weeks ago at 172 wheel hp. Would it be safe to assume that my cattman is OK without visually inspecting?

DW
Have you dynoed your car before to base your figure off. There are to many factores involved in a dyno. How long have you had your Y? if more than 6 months to be safe I would have a look see.

Could running your car with the restrictive exhaust for a prolonged period of time affect your engine? with only a pea sized hole, could that back pressure cause future problems? Just curiuos, not trying to flame or rehash bad feelings.
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That sucks. We just have no luck with Y-pipes!!
yours too?
Old May 7, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
my flex section on my catman pipe is gone too

I was not surprised to see my shot last week. I am glad if I influenced some of you guys to check your Ypipes, so whom ever reads this one no matter what type of Y pipe you have check anyways and dont go spend lots of money like I was trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with my car. Sprint if your car lost some pep no you know why.
Old May 7, 2002 | 12:26 PM
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I was not surprised to see my shot last week. I am glad if I influenced some of you guys to check your Ypipes, so whom ever reads this one no matter what type of Y pipe you have check anyways and dont go spend lots of money like I was trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with my car. Sprint if your car lost some pep no you know why.
yeah i can feel it .. and hear it too.. but i have a y pipe coming in two weeks.. so once i get that on.. i will send this one back
Old May 7, 2002 | 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
yeah i can feel it .. and hear it too.. but i have a y pipe coming in two weeks.. so once i get that on.. i will send this one back
What Y-pipe? Did you order a new one and then just send the old one back for repair? What are you doing with the old one?
Old May 7, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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What Y-pipe? Did you order a new one and then just send the old one back for repair? What are you doing with the old one?
all i can say is.. its not Cattman and its not Warpspeed

i am sending this one back to cattman as soon as i get the new one on...
Old May 7, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax


all i can say is.. its not Cattman and its not Warpspeed

i am sending this one back to cattman as soon as i get the new one on...
Guess you the first to have Three different Y-pipe manufacturers on your car? So Stillen or Budget?
Old May 7, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax


all i can say is.. its not Cattman and its not Warpspeed

i am sending this one back to cattman as soon as i get the new one on...

Oh no, not $tillen....
Old May 7, 2002 | 02:04 PM
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its not stillen, its not budget, its not max rev, its not cattman.. its not warpspeed.. only one other member has their y pipe.. and thats all i have to say
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has anyone had this problem with their stillen pipes?
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Originally posted by scmaxima2k
has anyone had this problem with their stillen pipes?
honestly.. my cousin has had his stillen y pipe on for about 8 months now.. and he has seen me go through 2 y pipes from 2 of the biggest y pipe makers for hte maxima.. and his y pipe is fine.. no flex problems.. still nice power
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