i was at this light waiting for it to turn green tonight, all of suddent his camaro stopped HARD right next to me and looking at me like you want a piece of this. Humm....sure, why not. Light turns green, he got a half car jump on me, cuz I didn't want my tire to make that sound (when accelerate too fast from a stop), anyways, after he got that half car jump on me, i just FLOOOOOORED it(didn't downshift to 1, I kept it on D). I start reeling him in right away(right before I passed him, I look over and saw his face, he was saying WTF with a disbelieve look). By 60, I had about 2 cars on him. Its in 45mph zone, so I shut it down, so did he. About a mile later, the two lanes are going to merge into one lane, all of sudden, I see him speeding up really fast, try to get ahead of me. what did I do?? I down shifted to 3rd, and go WOT again on him. He was still getting closer and closer. By the time I reached 60, he ain't pulling me in no more, and ME START to pull on him. He decided to shut it down again, and tailgate my *** for the next 2 miles. Later on, I need to make a left turn, he went onto the grass next to the road and did a HIGH SCHOOL RICE FLY BY.

 

Camaros in high school is a must, you can't aviod them.

 

Was it a V8 camaro? Auto or Manual? If it was a V6 you should have taken him out easily especially if it was an automatic.

 

Being a highschooler myself, i find the term a highschool rice fly by personally.. I've seen people do fly bys in everything from 35year olds in jeeps to college kids in thier grandfathers buick... fly bys are universal in the car world...

More importantly, nice to let the camaro have a piece...

 

I apologize if you find that term offensive, its just that I live around a white/mid-upper class area. Almost all the high schoolERs here are driving either sports car or some other good cars. And they always think they are better than you whever you seen them.

 

AMEN! I also am a highschool kid, and I hate it when rich kids drive around the expensive toys that mommy and daddy paid for! Especially when it's something as over-rated as a Rustang or Slowmaro. I had to pay for my car, damn it! Stupid cocky little ******. The best thing, though, is knowing that my 12 year old Maxima could whip most of them, and it looks a hell of a lot better as well!

 

I was a high schooler when I started posting on here. I am in college now. I didn't take offense to it when i was in high school, because most of the gay kids who have their parents buy them a new car whether it be a honda, mustang, camaro, or Kia, most of them act like they are tough because they haven't worked for their car.

I am not from a poor family, but my parents weren't gonna go out and buy me a $12,000 car. I had been obsessed with a 97 Maxima since the first time i ever saw one and rode in one in 1997. When it was the summer after high school, I needed a car, and I was gonna buy a cheap car, and save some dough. I said, f*ck it, what would make me the happiest? Buying a Maxima. I searched 3 states for a nice 5spd max. No luck, found a decent deal, and I had been searching for a month. Settled on a 1997 SE loaded with everything for $12,000. Paid half down on a loan, took a loan.

Thats a little off subject, but the fact remains....

Most High schoolers are ungreatful Domestic ***s....so they give us a bad name....just deal with it when you're young..

 

Soooo

Was it manual or automatic?

Was it V6 or V8?

 

Wait a minute!!! How can you, in the same car, drive in D AND downshift into 3rd??? Is it just me, or is there no such thing as an automatic/manual???

DPW

 

I think it was manual, and i am not sure if it was V6 or V8, I was aheaded of him 'til the end, too dark to see which model it is.

[quote]Wait a minute!!! How can you, in the same car, drive in D AND downshift into 3rd??? Is it just me, or is there no such thing as an automatic/manual???

I was driving in 4th gear (automatic) when starting from a stop, but downshifted manually to 3rd when he tried to pas me again

 

the wonders of the O/D button...

 

This reminds me of the kid at my high school whose parents bought him a Camaro. A V6 Camaro. So he went out and bought himself a couple of white Z28 stickers to plaster it with as well as a roll of white contact paper in order to add his own racing stripes down the middle of the car. He also dumped a bunch of money on dark tint and a sound system. So every morning I would roll into the parking lot and get out of my car to the sound of him sitting there blasting his stereo with the bass turned up. Oh well...at least he thought he was cool. But I always wondered what would happen if he ran up against the kid with the blown Monte Carlo.

Tim

 

wow, there's alot of other high schoolers on this board...although I don't know what the term "high school rice fly by" means...what is it exactly?

 

i thought all the 02's had gated shifters thus not needing an O/D button....

 

Another Camaro eats Maxima dust! Nice job...

My wife had a Camaro before we got married. I'd take a Maxima over it any day...

 

I used to own a Camaro.

He had a V6. No way can a NA Max keep up with a V8 Camaro.

Unless he was a REALLY bad driver.

There's a reason I got rid of that Camaro. It had major cooling line problems because the person who owned it before me didn't take care of it. First the radiator, then the heater core, then some piping. And EVERY time it overheated, I needed a new engine within 6 months. 4 Engines in 6 years. Not to mention:

Camaro (6 years, 32k-158k)
Starter (3)
Ignition Switch (3)
Distributor Cap (2)
Distributor (1)
Alternator (6 of them!)
Muffler fell off on the freeway after hitting a bump.
Interior fell apart at 50k.

Chevy sucks.

My Maxima:
Window Regulator (I blew it myself while installing stereo)
Alternator - (No idea why)
60k miles

Anyway, good kill.

IanS

 

Okay, when referring to "rice" it generally means some Japanese car that runs off rice. Make sense so far? Well, sometimes it means a car that is "riced out" which means some japanese kid has taken a japanese car and added a 6-foot tall spoiler to the back because he was con'd into thinking it would somehow help performance. That same kid also put on wheels the same size that his 6-year-old brother has on his skateboard and moved them out about 4 inches on each side because he was told the smaller wheels would mean better performance, especially if they were moved far enough out to add 100 pounds axleweight. The same kid tinted his windows so dark he has to unroll them to get enough light in the car to see the ignition. The same kid also bought a HUGE "NISSAN" sticker and put it in his window because he knows what a status symbol is and how jealous all those Porsche drivers will be. He also put a coffee-can underneath that makes a sound like a lawn-mower and calls it a "performance-enhanced exhaust system". Other people laugh as his car whizzes by sounding like a radio-controlled Tyco car or a scooter. Now his car is totally riced out (add Asian |3i+chez for the full effect).

The "fly-by" part generally refers to someone making a passing maneuver at high speed. So what happened in this case was the guy in the V6 camaro was puttering along, noticed the guy in the Maxima was trying to race or something like that, was in shock, but by the time he realized it the ricemobile was sputtering along at 45 miles per hour in front of him in a one-lane road. The kid was frustrated as oncoming traffic would not let him pass, and decided when the ricemobile flipped on it's turn signal and started slowing down for a turn 500 feet before the intersection, he might as well just "fly by" in the grass and be around that turkey. The Maxima claims another victory.

Nice fish story. If you blew off a V6 camaro I'm not too impressed since those are like 130 horsepower engines (depending on year). I'm also not impressed if it is an auto. I'm furthermore not impressed if it is an inexperienced highschooler. Anyone can slam down the throttle and "kill" a slower car. If you think your Maxima is such a "killer" machine and you are such a skilled driver, take that thing out on LeMans or something. In the meantime, don't bore us with your pathetic, self-compensating delusions of grandeur.

 

oh god, dont get me started on high school kids with camaros.

my fondest memory of a kid in a camaro was when I was in the 9th grade.

I was walking home from school, I was walking on my street when I look right and see a camaro waiting to take a left turn, the guy accelarates really quickly peeling out into the left turn. I immediately look over to my right again and see him taking a left turn way too fast, I watch him as he starts fishtailing. He drifts right, then whips left, then right, then left again as he over corrects. His tail comes around and he spins around into the grass. He was lucky he didnt hit a wall or a curb. It was a brand new Orange camaro SS ( I think, sounded like a v8) with no plates yet. I kept walking on the street, I look inside and see a 16 year old kid with sunglasses sitting in the car holding the wheel with both hands, arms straight out...stunned. People start gathering around the car, next thing I see is him peeling out off the grass and driving away really quickly. He f'ed up someones lawn and got embarassed...I never seen him again...

 

And you thought right... All auto 2k2 have gated shifter (1->2->3->D).
No O/D button.

 

oh. i wasn't aware of that.

 

There is a guy that has a Camaro at my school. It is a mid to late 90's model Z28. His best time out at the track is a 12.57. I was very impressed with his car. It is really quick.

 

Well in actuality if the Camaro was 96 or above it would have the 3800 series engine pumping out 200hp. That mated with a 5spd would give the Camaro plenty of ***** to compete with a N/A Maxima, but if it was an automatic then I would say that the Maxima would win easily. I know for a fact that one of friends girlfriend has a 2001 Firebird/auto with the 200hp engine and she put a jet chip in it and now runs 14.8 in the quarter. So my point is; Camaro years 95 and below too slow, Camaro years 96 and above yes if done right they can and I repeat they can give a N/A Maxima a run for it's money.

 

it was one of those 96+ model.

130horses?? check again before you say anything else

 

A riced out car doesn't have to be Japanese. It can be any kind of car. And how does it run off rice? Does someone pour grain into gas tank? No, makes no sense.

Why does the kid have to be Japanese? Ever seen a white kid with a riced out car? Ever seen a black kid with a riced out car? Ever seen a hispanic kid in a riced out car? Unless you live in Japan, there are plenty of other people besides Japanese people that rice out their cars.

Now you're just being racist ... makes me question all your opinions.



And you don't bore us with your "holier-than-thou" attitude. Makes you look like an arrogant *****.

 

He has a 2002 Maxima and he never mentioned what year the Camaro was. If the Camaro was a 95 the 3.4 L V6 has 160Hp and the Z28 has the LT1 which has 275Hp. In 96 the V6 went to the 3.8L V6 with 200Hp.

I think a NA 2002 max could keep up with a 95 Z28 Auto, but not beat it. So I'm guessing the car was a 95+ V6 (auto or manual).

I've beat V6 camaros in my 4th gen, so for a 2002 maxima it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

 

My little brother got a '94 Z28 as a gift from my parents at the end of his sophomore year in high school as a reward for getting striaght A's the entire year (he previous grades sucked and they worked out some kind of deal). He is in his senior year now and I sware he thinks he's god's gift to everything. He's sunk a huge deal of money into the car (not that I can knock him for that ) and he runs a 12.6 at the track so obviously he has the fastest car at his school. He travels around town with his ricer friends and they try to race anything and everything and in the meantime, his ego soars hourly. His car sounds like an airplane and cops pull him over daily just to mess with him, although he's really asking for it. He's also decided he's an outlaw now so he never does any work and is just barely graduating (he already got into a bunch of schools, he just has to graduate now), my parents cant stand it.

The moral of the story parents is: Don't get your kid a Camaro in high school, it's nothing but a temporary ego inflator that will make your kid act stupid.

 

The 2002 Max can take out V6 Camaros regardless of tranny. The Z28 is a different story. Off the line, the Max has a better chance with the LT1 engine (93-97) but the LS1 (98-02) has a lot more power. I hear these engines are actually underrated. I think a 1/4 race wit a 2002 Max and an LT1 auto Z28 will be dead even. 2002 will get KILLED by the LS1 SS. Those things are sick. I am not sure about highway races and races from a roll. People say Max's have a good chance of beating a Z28 from a roll. Is this because we have better gearing?

 

i read the post and some of the responses. auto? manual?
downshifting on an auto? i have an 89 GXE, how can i use
my O/D in an WOT situation?

 

Hey tapwr3000, looks like your camaro friend got a username on the Org to come defend himself.

So "big rhino 69" is your camaro the 130hp model, or do the stickers bring you up over 300hp?

 

nods head in agreement with clee130

 

IMHO, there is no point in getting a V6 Camaro (or Firebird and Stang for that matter)

 

yes i am one but i still cant help but laugh at the posers in the parking lot...some examples:
- a kid with a pre 94 gen mustang 5 spd with tinted headlight covers
- 93-97 V6 camaro with chrome Z28 rims...had left some of his notebooks caught in his spoiler as he left the lot
- aw aint mom and pop nice? some white boy homie and his tan Infiniti QX4
- 1st gen dodge neon - base model with hubcaps....and altezzas
- this has to be the best: late 80s sentra with chrome hubcaps, fart tip, front passenger and rear driver tinted windows only and a huge windshield banner that says "RICE"
- and there are plenty of run down 3rd gen maxs in the lot as well; mostly gray and beige GXEs all stock and dirty with "systems"
-....then theres my car

 

Whats wrong with that?

 

from a roll on, stock for stock the LT1 would lose to a 2k2 maxima. LT1 are weak up top. LS1 on the other hand....from a stop the maxima doesnt have much chance, but from a roll it has a BETTER chance....but i still dont see the an auto 2k2 beating an LS1 on the highway auto or stick. but im not too aware of the capability of the LS1 camaro, i know that a ws6 is similar to a camaro ss, and i know that the 2k2 doesnt keep up with that.

 

MAN! What is it with newbies and lurkers coming to the board with the attitude that they know everything and that they need to correct and re-educate everyone? This is a Maxima discussion forum, you know. I don't recall this being a Maxima bashing forum. I don't care how great Camaros are, or how the Maxima is slower. And speaking of self-compensation, methinks this fella only came to the board seeking to put someone down in order to make himself feel like a big man. Get off your donkey.

 

i agree and i have 2 instances in which i can prove this. back when i first got my car i was showin' it to a buddy with a 95' (maybe 96) formula firebird (auto) and we lined up at a light for ****s thinking i was gonna get my **** beat. i begged him for a head start and he agreed to give me 2 car lengths before he took off. well we didn't stop til we hit about 115 or 120 and he stayed those 2 cars behind me the whole time never gaining or losing an inch. so i agree in saying that LT1s have no top end. also another buddy if mine had a 89' formula with an LT1 bored .30 over to 355 and he lived off of this road with a 1 1/2 to 2 mile straight away. everytime we pushed the car we couldn't make past 120 or 123mph before slowing down. with my max, we have gotten up to 136 . i can easily see a 2k2 max beating an unmodded LT1.

 

My previous car was a 94 Z28 automatic with the standard 2.73 gear (3.23 optional). In bonestock form, it ran 13.9@99mph with a 2.0 60'. With a Borla Y-pipe, 3" catback, intake, MSD 6A ignition, and JET chip, it went 13.4@103mph with a 1.9 60'. The way I see it, I don't think stock auto LT1s are weak on the topend. 6 speed LT1s are even more deadly. I consistently got walked by 6 speed LT1s after 90mph. If a Maxima can take an LT1 off the line, the guy either can't drive or he's spinning dramatically. On the street, my Z28 was a pain to launch plus the car would get squirelly on the 1-2 shift at 50mph. As for top speed, when I was in college (KU) I decided to "put my foot in it" one night on a lone stretch of highway. I got up to 145mph and chickened out. My car came with the Z-rated tires therefore it was not speed limited and had the 155mph speedometer. As verified by the highway patrol (who happens to own many auto Z28s) the 93-97 LT1 auto was good to 152mph. The 6 speed was good to 154mph. The LS1 is good for 159-162mph.

Sure, I've seen plenty of LT1 F-Bodys turning mid to upper 14s, but those guys just can't drive and/or the conditions were extremely hot. A friend of mine has a auto 95 Z28 with a 3.73 gear, chip, catback, headers, cam, heads, roller rockers, intake, and drag radials. With a full interior and ground effects kit, he's running 12.6@109mph in the heat of August. He's pretty much untouchable on the street. He hooks and goes. What's amazing is that the head and cam package he's running is built to run best with a 3000rpm stall torque converter. He's currently running the stock 1700rpm converter. When he installs his 3000 stall converter, he'll be in the 11s.

Please, don't take LT1s lightly. I have no idea where people got the notion that LT1s don't have any topend. I wouldn't call a stock car that can get 100-103mph in the 1/4 mile, a "weak" topend performer.


Dave

 

How's the auto in the Camaros? I used to have a '95 Pontiac Grand Am GT auto. Even though it had only 160hp, the auto in the Grand Am seem stronger/better than the one in the Maxima. I didn't experience much lag in the Grand Am as I do now in the Maxima. Weird.

 

I dont understand why alot of people here think their v6 maxima's are the bomb. Sure there are some impressive ones, but to be honest this car does not impress me whatsoever. They are front drive, hard and expensive to make super fast, heavy, with no aftermarket. The people who have hit mid 14s NA usually only do it once and not consistently, and then we got the people running without passenger seats with the car totally stripped. And all of us with Y pipes it isnt exactly a street legal mod either. And we always have to rely on "make sure the other guy is a bad driver" to win stuff, its so ridiculous. And then, we're always picking on the "stock" mustang/camaro with a fully modded maxima. Imagine a fully modded mustang/camaro, thats cheaper to mod (and fix) then the maxima and then we'll see who wins.

Everytime I see someone writing about "killing a mustang/camaro etc" it makes me wonder how badly they'd get dusted if that mustang/camaro was running in its peak performance that we always like to boast about. Most the muscle car guys around me know how to drive and they turn consistent good numbers at the drag strip. Out of all the Maxima's Ive seen running at the strip, nobody knew how to drive. All the 4th and 5th gens were in the high 15s and even 16s, the 2002 I saw running was only 14.7 at best. This car is such not a performance or gear head car considering most the people even on this forum are more concerned about $3000 rims and altezza lighting they get their mechanics to install rather then true speed parts. For those who are the true speed demons, how many thousands have you spent in trying to approach the performance of a stock z28? Not including the parts that were broken that costs 3 foots and 2 arms to replace.

I seriously dont know why I keep putting time and money into this car trying to improve it. I try to restrain myself, but I guess its just one of those bugs that you get that you'll try to work with whatever you've got. This is definately not a car for me.

 

So what makes a car perform better than others on the top end? My friend said my mom's '01 Towncar can take out my I30 on the highway? How is this?