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Old 11-23-2000, 05:20 AM
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I was wondering what would be your opinions on a race between a SE-R and maxima? I figure stock for stock they are about the same with the max pulling away in 4th gear? However there were se-r memebers that run low 15's stock. Even though my SE-R has just intake and timing I raced a modded 5spd maxima. We were even from 1st gear to 3rd gear with him walking me in 4th gear. We did alot of rollons at various speeds in 1st through 3rd gear. The result was a tie, but his car in 4th gear walks mine. His mods were CAI, Y pipe and exhaust. We will have to try again after I get my ECU, CAI and header .
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Originally posted by doug
who ever it is just cant drive... switch cars and notice the difference..

oh really....let's see 14.9 @ 93.5 means i can't drive....right doug....

it was close all the way to third....in third i pulled a half a car to 3/4 of a car. in fourth i started walking quite easy. I was really impressed with Ari's car. i wouldn't want to race him when he gets the header and ecu.

But ari and i were no match to the del sol we raced who got a chirp from 3rd to 4th...prolly a b18 del sol.....

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Old 11-23-2000, 07:01 AM
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Stock per Stock the cars perform pretty much the same. Driver error is a big factor here. Also the advantage goes to the Bigger motor (VQ) once you hit above 60 or so.
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Originally posted by Francis96se
oh really....let's see 14.9 @ 93.5 means i can't drive....right doug....[/I]
Come on Francis, you *know* Doug's 15.6 is way better than your 14.9. You're such a suck *** driver.. LOL

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Old 11-23-2000, 08:25 AM
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oh really....let's see 14.9 @ 93.5 means i can't drive....right doug....
Come on Francis, you *know* Doug's 15.6 is way better than your 14.9. You're such a suck *** driver.. LOL

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Old 11-23-2000, 08:30 AM
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Actually.....

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Stock per Stock the cars perform pretty much the same. Driver error is a big factor here. Also the advantage goes to the Bigger motor (VQ) once you hit above 60 or so.
Looking back on it, my speedo at 90mph is actually 84-85mph real speed. Our 0-60s are the same since we were side by side, however is 85-100mph is way faster than mine. But neither of us was a match for the modded del sol. I mean he chirped 3rd better than most of us do 2nd ! Also judging by the scream of that engine and how fast we walked us. It had to be a low 14- high 13 sec car. Also it was a hybrid the only question is was it a B18C or a built B18A/B now thats the question.
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Old 11-23-2000, 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by doug
who ever it is just cant drive... switch cars and notice the difference..
I highly doubt it was driver error. I mean we both were in the right gears and did a rollon. Its basically idiot proof. Even if we would have switched cars it would have been no different. Don't take this as a flame but maybe I got lucky and got one of those fast cars from the factory. Once I get my clutch and flywheel I can thrash it at the strip and look for my mid-low 15 sec ET's.
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who ever it is just cant drive... switch cars and notice the difference..
I highly doubt it was driver error. I mean we both were in the right gears and did a rollon. Its basically idiot proof. Even if we would have switched cars it would have been no different. Don't take this as a flame but maybe I got lucky and got one of those fast cars from the factory. Once I get my clutch and flywheel I can thrash it at the strip and look for my mid-low 15 sec ET's.
91-93.5 where the fastest se-r's ever made and the lightest weighing at 2414 lb. 2 People bone stock got there se-r's to run 14.9 BONE STOCK. Yeah maybe they had strong cars. But most of them run mid 15s stock. With a INTAKE its all it really takes to get the car to hit high 14s I heard basically. The car with just a bump in timing can gain up to 10 hp on that alone, and intake gives it up to 6 hp for just a cone intake.
 
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Here's the deal: With two cars with about the same power to weight ratio acceleration is going to be the same. Above a certain speed air resistance becomes the dominant factor. Assuming similar air drag the car with greater horspower will go faster, and ultimately this is independent of vehicle weight. So, it's not unreasonable for a SE-R to keep up with a Max through 3rd gear, but then the higher HP of the Max lets it walk from 4th on up.
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Old 11-23-2000, 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by doug
actually mr.. i have no license.. its 15.1@91 mph... and my car is slower than his.. AND my car has less mods..

what do you have to say now Mikey? thats what I thought STFU
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oh really....let's see 14.9 @ 93.5 means i can't drive....right doug....
Come on Francis, you *know* Doug's 15.6 is way better than your 14.9. You're such a suck *** driver.. LOL

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So I still suck at driving, right doug...
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