Who wins!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Both stock?

SuDZ

 

Damn, I want one real bad.

 

93 five speed

 

'93 5spd VE should win...but if the 5spd driver ****s up the '98 might be able to edge him!

 

yeah, the driver is important. The horsepower is equal, but since the 98 is automagic, with a good driver, the 93 should win everytime.

 

well probably would be a driver race cause my cousin 97 max auto held of a ve 5 speed on belt parkway. the 93 max started first but was like 5 cars back and we was already doin 90mph. by time we realize he was on it it he was 3 cars back then my cousin got on it. the 93 max only got a couple inches back of my cousins bumber, that was like 120mph but after that it fell back like 3 car lengths. but from people i know for some reason think the ve 5 speed faster than the 4th gen manuals and autos.

 

I say the '98 automagic. People underestimate automatics too much.

So the '93 is a VE or VG? I don't know much about 3rd gens. The VE has less horsepower than the VG right? VG is 190 and VE is like 150-160 or is it the other way around?

 

VE has 190, VG has 160.
VE will win. People underestimate VE 5spds way too much.

 

Oh my bad. If that's the case, I say the 3rd gen. Make a big difference if it's the VE or VG. As far as underestimating the VE 5spd...not from me.


At first I thought you guys pick the 160 hp VG over a 190 hp 4th gen. even though it's an auto. Btw, can you tell from the outside whether it's a VE or VG?

 

yes. one way is: 92-94's will havea multi-bar grill w/ a big nissan hamburger in the middle. if the grill is the same color as the body, its an SE.

other ways to tell an SE is, the spoiler, black trim around windows, and darker middle taillight peice.

the 89-91's have a grill with one single bar going across, and a tiny little "Nissan" on the drivers side.

 

VE is the winner!!!!

 

VE 5 speed wins again!

 

I would love to see a VQ 5sp vs a VE 5sp. Many VE owners think the VE has better top end than the VQ. Remember in 92 the VE 5sp ran 6.6 to 60 (correct me if I am wrong) I think the VE ran very close to the NA 300zx of the same year. Don't under estimate it.

 

The VE may have a better top end than the VQ,I don't know, but the VQs bottom end the VE can't touch, PLUS the fact that the VQs body weighs 100 lbs LESS than the VE's body. The VQ will win.

Still, it would be a fun race

DW

 

huh? ask zcarguy with the 97 se if he has a better low end than a VE

 

If the VE ran 6.6 to 60 it would have to have good low end power.

 

Really?? An S2000 is as fast as a 5 speed Maxima. Does it have good low end power?

DW

 

Buddy of mine has an S2000 and we race everyday after work the thing is very fast, only because he knows how to launch it. I have been in it and I thought I could take him with my mods since he is torqueless, but when properly driven the thing is a crazy off the line. Not until triple digits do I even out the gap. Anyway I am one of the 4th Genners that secretly likes the 3rd Gens better. I drove a VE 5sp and I was very impressed with it, then again I was coming out of a VG 5sp.

 

Yeah, I think the 3rd gens are very good looking Maximas, quite a unique shape. I kinda prefer the before 92 look, though. The 97-99s, while not looking so unique, I love 'em as well. The VG motors are the best sounding motors I've heard, they sound like a finely tuned sewing machine. Well, unless they've got those notorious exhaust manifold problems. At least the 3rd gen doesn't have weak manual trannies, like the 4th gen

DW

 

No but they have pathetic automatics . The VE does lack in the low end and a vq 5spd will take a ve 5spd.

 

VE 5 speed vs. VQ 5 speed, VQ wins!! But not by much!

 

the 93 maxima will win

 

I have a VE 5sp and I raced Wizeguy w/ his stock VQ 5-sp w/ his heavy 17" rims. I had the Y, cat and popcharger + stock wheels but slipping clutch(@#$%^ key value clutch kit!!) Anyway, due to the VQ's torque and my weak clutch, he jumped on me. But by the middle of 3rd gear, I would reel him in.(but we couldn't race past 3rd gear).

The VQ has 205ftlbs torque to the VE 190ftlbs torque. Both have 190hp. But the VQ's power band dies bast 5000 rpm, while the VE is just getting started at 5,000(varible cam timing and varible volume intake manifold). If the VE can launch and and stay in the power band, it should keep up w/ a auto VQ in the low/high end(if not beat it) Why do you guys think Nissan brought back varible cam timing and varible intake manifold tech for the 3.5VQ?

As far as the S2000 torque, well if the car is light, you don't need alot of torque to get it going. They didn't get a sub 6-sec 0-60 for nothing you know.

 

True, but you have to drop the clutch at 7K rpms to get a great launch. That's redline for most normal cars, 500 above redline for the VQ!
Like most Honda 4 bnage VTECs, it's a pussycat down low, then a jekyl N Hide tranformation up top. And in the case of the S2000, that top is waaaaaaay up there

DW

 

Ah, well that's the nature of the animal. If you want brute force at super low rpms, go drive a Cummins 18 wheeler

Automatic MKIVs with single turbo conversions have to brake boost to launch decent off the line. I don't see too many people complaining about that right?

 

I know it's the nature of the beast. I was just clarifying a point that a good 0-60 time does not necessarily mean an engine with good torque

DW