Mobil1 Changes to Super-Syn - Rumor becomes Reality
#1
Mobil1 Changes to Super-Syn - Rumor becomes Reality
I heard rumor a while back about Mobil introducing yet another new formula. Anyone know what the difference between it and the Tri-Synthetic is. I'm not looking for the marketing bs Mobil is using with it claiming it makes your engine wear less. I want some technical info folks. Anyone seen it in stores. I just bought some tri-synthetic. I think I might just have to return and try the new stuff. Here a link: http://www.mobil1.com/supersyn/index.jsp
#4
I'm VERY curious what's driving this reformulation again. So far it seems like it's better than Tri-Synthetic. I wonder if their customer base was dropping off with the previous formula? I'm trying to find out more about if it's 100% synthetic again, and I don't just mean legally.
#5
While I have an oil thread going, what are everyones thoughts about running 0W-30 in the summer? Too thin for the heat? I ran 0W in my previous car year round, but now I have a max. I think I might up it to 5W just to be safe.
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Originally posted by iwannabmw
I'm VERY curious what's driving this reformulation again. So far it seems like it's better than Tri-Synthetic. I wonder if their customer base was dropping off with the previous formula? I'm trying to find out more about if it's 100% synthetic again, and I don't just mean legally.
I'm VERY curious what's driving this reformulation again. So far it seems like it's better than Tri-Synthetic. I wonder if their customer base was dropping off with the previous formula? I'm trying to find out more about if it's 100% synthetic again, and I don't just mean legally.
#7
Originally posted by JAY25
I just swapped to Mobil trisynthetic and man it was a heck of a difference, I can vouch for that, the supercharger was making this sharp whining noise I guess it was good for that too. I also ran a pretty good time considering that I had my 18s on as well. Mobil 1 tri I am sticking with that. As for that new one I will try it out next time if other members have a better experience with it then tri.
I just swapped to Mobil trisynthetic and man it was a heck of a difference, I can vouch for that, the supercharger was making this sharp whining noise I guess it was good for that too. I also ran a pretty good time considering that I had my 18s on as well. Mobil 1 tri I am sticking with that. As for that new one I will try it out next time if other members have a better experience with it then tri.
#8
Originally posted by TheNip73
While I have an oil thread going, what are everyones thoughts about running 0W-30 in the summer? Too thin for the heat? I ran 0W in my previous car year round, but now I have a max. I think I might up it to 5W just to be safe.
While I have an oil thread going, what are everyones thoughts about running 0W-30 in the summer? Too thin for the heat? I ran 0W in my previous car year round, but now I have a max. I think I might up it to 5W just to be safe.
#11
Unfortunately I've read some early reports that suggest the oil may be getting "worse"
This oil has lower levels of zinc antiwear additives.
The oil manufactures are under pressure by the automakers and the EPA to reduce the amount of Zinc and phosphorous additives because they shorten catalytic converter life. These additives are what gives oil its antiwear properties, so reducing them is not be a good idea IMO.
Second I haven't been able to confirm this ye,t but they may have gone to more of the semi synthetic (highly refined base oils) in their mixture. Mobil lost a lawsuit to Castrol so they may have gone to refined base oils to compete with them.
This oil has lower levels of zinc antiwear additives.
The oil manufactures are under pressure by the automakers and the EPA to reduce the amount of Zinc and phosphorous additives because they shorten catalytic converter life. These additives are what gives oil its antiwear properties, so reducing them is not be a good idea IMO.
Second I haven't been able to confirm this ye,t but they may have gone to more of the semi synthetic (highly refined base oils) in their mixture. Mobil lost a lawsuit to Castrol so they may have gone to refined base oils to compete with them.
#12
Originally posted by maxxed
Second I haven't been able to confirm this ye,t but they may have gone to more of the semi synthetic (highly refined base oils) in their mixture. Mobil lost a lawsuit to Castrol so they may have gone to refined base oils to compete with them.
Second I haven't been able to confirm this ye,t but they may have gone to more of the semi synthetic (highly refined base oils) in their mixture. Mobil lost a lawsuit to Castrol so they may have gone to refined base oils to compete with them.
On the topic of emission system life vs. reduced wear in the engine - Tnis is exactly what Amsoil has been saying all along. Screw the increased wear on the emissions system; it is more important and expensive to worry about the engine. So a catalytic converter might wear out at a 100k. It costs around $200 to replace and can be considered a performance mod as well.
This is also why there is a high level of phosphorus in their oil. They believe it is more beneficial to have that included as an anti-wear additive than it is to bow to the rest of the industry and API. Amsoil concentrates on making a better oil, not on selling every last bottle it possibly can.
#13
Technology changes. Advances are being made everyday. Change is good.
I remember when removing lead from gasoline was suppose to cause an early death to all engines. How long has it been since lead was removed from gas? Do engines die quickly? NO!
And OBD2 was suppose to kill all performance mods....
The engineers worked it out then. And, they will work with the new formulas, technology, and changes now.
They will make the new oils with less zinc and less sulfur and less phophorous and less whatever the epa/dot/api/ilsac/nmma/sae/carb/bigbrother/....says they can't use. And the engines will last as long as ever(and longer), and the emissions systems will last and........
Why are we afraid of change?
I remember when removing lead from gasoline was suppose to cause an early death to all engines. How long has it been since lead was removed from gas? Do engines die quickly? NO!
And OBD2 was suppose to kill all performance mods....
The engineers worked it out then. And, they will work with the new formulas, technology, and changes now.
They will make the new oils with less zinc and less sulfur and less phophorous and less whatever the epa/dot/api/ilsac/nmma/sae/carb/bigbrother/....says they can't use. And the engines will last as long as ever(and longer), and the emissions systems will last and........
Why are we afraid of change?
#14
Check out this link:
https://dallnd6.dal.mobil.com/GIS/Mo...0?OpenDocument
According to the first sentence they are saying 100% synthetic base stocks...
Also check this one out:
http://www.mobil1.com/products/trisynth/faq.jsp#faq4
Again Mobil is saying it's fully synthetic...
From what I'm reading at those two links, it seems like Mobil 1 has gone back to a toatally synthetic formula
https://dallnd6.dal.mobil.com/GIS/Mo...0?OpenDocument
According to the first sentence they are saying 100% synthetic base stocks...
Also check this one out:
http://www.mobil1.com/products/trisynth/faq.jsp#faq4
Again Mobil is saying it's fully synthetic...
From what I'm reading at those two links, it seems like Mobil 1 has gone back to a toatally synthetic formula
#15
I changed my oil about 2 weeks ago with Mobil's new SuperSyn, the 2 changes before that I had used the Tri formula.....one thing I noticed is that the Super Syn is a darker color.....which means nothing, but it still caught my eye.
#16
Originally posted by GTB G2
Check out this link:
https://dallnd6.dal.mobil.com/GIS/Mo...0?OpenDocument
According to the first sentence they are saying 100% synthetic base stocks...
Also check this one out:
http://www.mobil1.com/products/trisynth/faq.jsp#faq4
Again Mobil is saying it's fully synthetic...
From what I'm reading at those two links, it seems like Mobil 1 has gone back to a toatally synthetic formula
Check out this link:
https://dallnd6.dal.mobil.com/GIS/Mo...0?OpenDocument
According to the first sentence they are saying 100% synthetic base stocks...
Also check this one out:
http://www.mobil1.com/products/trisynth/faq.jsp#faq4
Again Mobil is saying it's fully synthetic...
From what I'm reading at those two links, it seems like Mobil 1 has gone back to a toatally synthetic formula
Hmmm, this is starting to make me think I dont have to order Amsoil and Id be safe w/ the super syn. Who knows. Amsoil has all ready prooven to be superior.
#17
Originally posted by ChillWill2000
Hmmm, this is starting to make me think I dont have to order Amsoil and Id be safe w/ the super syn. Who knows. Amsoil has all ready prooven to be superior.
Hmmm, this is starting to make me think I dont have to order Amsoil and Id be safe w/ the super syn. Who knows. Amsoil has all ready prooven to be superior.
#18
Originally posted by deadrx7conv
Technology changes. Advances are being made everyday. Change is good.
I remember when removing lead from gasoline was suppose to cause an early death to all engines. How long has it been since lead was removed from gas? Do engines die quickly? NO!
And OBD2 was suppose to kill all performance mods....
The engineers worked it out then. And, they will work with the new formulas, technology, and changes now.
They will make the new oils with less zinc and less sulfur and less phophorous and less whatever the epa/dot/api/ilsac/nmma/sae/carb/bigbrother/....says they can't use. And the engines will last as long as ever(and longer), and the emissions systems will last and........
Why are we afraid of change?
Technology changes. Advances are being made everyday. Change is good.
I remember when removing lead from gasoline was suppose to cause an early death to all engines. How long has it been since lead was removed from gas? Do engines die quickly? NO!
And OBD2 was suppose to kill all performance mods....
The engineers worked it out then. And, they will work with the new formulas, technology, and changes now.
They will make the new oils with less zinc and less sulfur and less phophorous and less whatever the epa/dot/api/ilsac/nmma/sae/carb/bigbrother/....says they can't use. And the engines will last as long as ever(and longer), and the emissions systems will last and........
Why are we afraid of change?
It's good to see more Altima guys wandering over here
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