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Old 05-05-2002, 11:00 AM
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Red / clear tails - already came stock on Maximas??? maybe... check this out!---->

This was posted as a reply to a post in the 4th gen forum (link: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....2&pagenumber=2 ) regarding red/clear tails, by a new member "02SM520":


Hello Maxima owners...
I am new to this Maxima stuff..
Anyway I saw everyone is interested on Clear/Red taillights..

I own 2001 Samsung SM520.
Which is same car as 95 ~ 99?
model of Nissan Maxima. Interior is same / Exterior is little
different and we also have Nissan SR engine as option.
SR 1.8L - 4 cylinder
SR 2.0L - 4 cylinder
VQ 2.0 - V6
VQ 2.5 - V6
VQ 3.0 - V6 (Same engine as USDM version) only two are made so far ... for SM530 Limusine version.

Anyway. As I checked the pictures of the taillights and it look almost same as my SM520 taillights. Yup.. We have Regular red/clear taillight for 98 - 2001 model and starting from 2002 Clear.. Clear red / clear taillights .. also for the headlights too.. (Which means.. you see throu the lenses..)



Now tell me that those tails do not look exactly like 97-99 ones.
But these came stock, and they look a whole lot better then any red/clear tail light job can be done IMHO.
here is the 2001 Samsung SM520 (Korean 95-99 Max)
http://www.skencar.co.kr/catalog/kor...ges/line02.gif

although the trunk is a little different in layout, the tail lights look very close.....

and the price..
Inner Tailights = about $20 x 2 = $40
Out Taillights = about $25 x 2 = $50
Headlights = about $90 x 2 = $180
It apply to 2002 Samsung SM5..
This would be a whole lot cheaper then buying them for 190$ new. The outer tails are just 50$ for both. The problem is we have to pay for shipping from Korea.

If someone can get a whole lot of them at dealer price and re-sell them here in U.S. it would be really cool and I'm sure people rather buy factory made tails which are actually visible when the turn signal is on in the day time. This ofcourse, only if they are a direct fit... which they look like from here.

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That looks like a very interesting option for new tail lights. It would make our car look more like an I30. Do you know how much it would be for all 4 lamps? I don't think it would look right with just the outer lenses because it wouldn't match the inside lights very well.
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This is of course, on the major assumption that these will fit the 4th gens.
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I contacted that guy earlier to see if he could find out if those lights will fit our cars.

I may consider the re-selling thing, but we'll see. I'm waiting for his response.

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what about the headlights, will they fit 4th gen?
they are one piece and look pretty nice.
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I doubt they'll fit.

The Samsung SM520V (SM520, SM525V, or SM530V...) is a copy of the Cefiro, license-built by Samsung... I assume.

It might fit an I30, but probably not a Maxima.

Compare:



vs. gen4 Maxima:
http://www.brian1.net/maxima/picture...stock_back.jpg

(more SM52xx) pics:
http://www.brian1.net/maxima/other_c...g_ceifro01.jpg
http://www.brian1.net/maxima/other_c...g_ceifro02.jpg
http://www.brian1.net/maxima/other_c...g_ceifro03.jpg
http://www.brian1.net/maxima/other_c...g_ceifro04.jpg
http://www.brian1.net/maxima/other_c...g_ceifro05.jpg

Earlier post:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=116764
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i wouldnt get your hopes up on this. the shape of the tail lamps is very similar to our 4th gen tail lamps, but notice the way the top part slopes. the SM tails dont angle downward at the top like ours do.



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Originally posted by xHypex
That looks like a very interesting option for new tail lights. It would make our car look more like an I30. Do you know how much it would be for all 4 lamps? I don't think it would look right with just the outer lenses because it wouldn't match the inside lights very well.
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well, according to the guy and the currency exchange rates, the inner tails are 20 US dollars a piece and outer ones are 25$.. so that's 90$ for all 4 pieces I wonder how much shipping from Korea can cost on such items, but still... I much rather pay 200$ for these things, then say the red/clear tails from custommaxima.com (not to knock on his business, i love the guy.. ) just saying. These are like diamond cut red/clear tails.

The pieces seem to be almost exact, except they are slightly more angular, still very close though.....

If anyone is willing to take sacrifice 90$ + shipping and try them out..... that's the only way to find out... maybe even Greg, Jeff, Phoung, Alex or who ever else runs a business can try this out..
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Originally posted by NYCe MaXiMa

The pieces seem to be almost exact, except they are slightly more angular, still very close though.....
Almost is not quite good enough. They look like they will require cutting of the trunklid and rear fenders to fit. Actually they definitely will. Look how they go past the rear bumper-line and then look at your car and you will see the lights line up with the rear bumper. Not to mention the outer-lower corner is round and ours is pointed. Sorry to be specific, but but going to work.
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Well the price sounds reasonable, and it would definitely be easier to fit these in the Maxima than some of the taillight conversions I've seen in the past. I'm not up for it now, but maybe someday
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Looks pretty cool, although those colors don't float my boat.. Look at the direct replacement gauge cluster piece and all the dashboard pieces.. it is not a stick-on kit. This would look 10X cleaner... And that looks identical to a 4th gen, no question about that.

90$ for FOUR taillight pieces even if shipping would be like a 100$, 190$ for 4 taillight pieces is a hell of a lot cheaper then you can buy 4 pieces in US even used at a junkyard. If only these things fit, it would be a great bargain and a very nic mod. The trunk just looks different but the actual tails themselves are very, very close. The headlights sparked my interest too.. 180$ for a pair of 1 piece headlights... not too shabby.
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I tried browsing the site, but I can't read Korean Are there any prices listed for the dash kits? I'm not a huge fan of the wood, but it's one of the only things that looks good in a tan interrior car. It looks like it would be better than the dash kits currently available too.

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Originally posted by brianw
I doubt they'll fit.

The Samsung SM520V (SM520, SM525V, or SM530V...) is a copy of the Cefiro, license-built by Samsung... I assume.

It might fit an I30, but probably not a Maxima.

Compare:




From josh's max, looks good to me



They look like they will fit a 95-96 max. Those years are not angular at all. If they fit a 95-96 then damn, i just did a 98 converson and sold my 96 trunk. If i can get a 96 trunk somehow i might put the money down and buy these.
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im still 90% sure they wont fit on any US maxima of any year. (95-95 had the same shape as the 97-99 except the 95-96 had a crease in them). they do look like they would fit into a cefiro/ i30 with no problem.
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maybe we should all pitch in and order a pair?
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Originally posted by MaximaZero
im still 90% sure they wont fit on any US maxima of any year. (95-95 had the same shape as the 97-99 except the 95-96 had a crease in them). they do look like they would fit into a cefiro/ i30 with no problem.
not true. The outer tails are the same, yes. The inner ones are different however, I know, i did the conversion. The 97's flare at the bottom more as u can see in the pic from one of the earlier posts.
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hmm....what a buzz kill

so you're saying that the outers will fit a 97-99, but the inners won't?
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Originally posted by NickStam
hmm....what a buzz kill

so you're saying that the outers will fit a 97-99, but the inners won't?
Thats what it looks like to me.
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It wont fit cause on 97 the inner lights are bigger then the korean version.
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are the Korean inners identical to the Cefiro's? Can we use Cefiro or I30's inners and Korean Outer?
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Those tail lights look identical in shape to 98-99 I30's, the only difference is the outer ones don't have the little red reflector on the sides(same as cefiro ones). The headlights look the same as the cefiro ones except there smoked so I don't think they will fit either. Look at how the headlight braket's are designed, they dont have the mounting pieces for the grill.
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I ask again though ... are we basing the fact that they will fit simply by the pictures or has somebody actually held one up to their car.

Pictures are a very very poor way to judge whether it will fit or not.

If someone wants to take the plunge and buy a set and compare, I'm sure everyone will be grateful.
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Well if they do fit the I30, they wouldn't look very good.
http://max-performance.net/images/SL...0tails%202.JPG
I'm not sure if you can tell, but the center piece of our trunk is countoured in the center. This is why the cefiro corners don't look great with the 96-97 I30 center piece, there is also a color hue difference as well. The front headlights wont fit the I30, the corners of our lights angle up instead of down.
http://max-performance.net/images/SL...48_11_full.jpg
I think that the korean version does look good but from pictures I think they will have problems with fitting properly. Also something to think about, why would you only buy the corners with out matching trunk lights?

What I'm interested in is body kits? are there any available for this? I noticed that it has the same bumper as the I30, well not the same but it wraps from wheel well to wheel wll, which the max doesn't and the "I" does.

Now I'm mad for not turning down my Korea tour... damn
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For those who missed the thread in the 4th Gen forum (http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=118033), it appears there is a pair of these for sale on e-bay and the seller claims they will fit 98-99 Maximas (so I would assume 97 also).

Assuming they do fit the next question would be, does the reflector match the stock US one (or at least better than floresent light cover)? And if not - will the trunk lights fit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eb...188646&r=0&t=0
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Originally posted by NickStam
maybe we should all pitch in and order a pair?
sure jus send the money to me
i got a 99 max and my bro has a 97 i30 we can find out if
it fits
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They look like they will fit a 95-96 max. Those years are not angular at all.[/B][/QUOTE]actually they are really angular....
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Well, to add to this great find, I have literally seen a 97-99 Maxima that had the trunk of a 95-96. The outer tails were still 97-99, but the inner tail was 95-96. It fit perfectly. Given that, these Korean lights sound very very encouraging

Here's another dilemna, though. The backup lights for the 97-99 Max are not clear, but the amber tails of these lights are clear, so it would be a mixup if they were to come together.

Is it easy to make the backup lights clear on the 97-99 tails?? THen this would be great?

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I will try this

my brother leaves for Korea this weekend for national guard training. in his free time he will try to find these lights for me. hopefully he can get them and i can see if they will fit on my 97 maxima. wish him luck.
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Re: I will try this

Originally posted by Kanaka
my brother leaves for Korea this weekend for national guard training. in his free time he will try to find these lights for me. hopefully he can get them and i can see if they will fit on my 97 maxima. wish him luck.
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Originally posted by dwapenyi
Well, to add to this great find, I have literally seen a 97-99 Maxima that had the trunk of a 95-96. The outer tails were still 97-99, but the inner tail was 95-96. It fit perfectly. Given that, these Korean lights sound very very encouraging

Here's another dilemna, though. The backup lights for the 97-99 Max are not clear, but the amber tails of these lights are clear, so it would be a mixup if they were to come together.

Is it easy to make the backup lights clear on the 97-99 tails?? THen this would be great?

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they are different inner shapes completely... ive seen a 98 with 95-96 completely clear outers and stock inners... the lines dont line up in the least. although just another opinion, these look more like the 95-96 tails (i hope at least)

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Re: I will try this

Originally posted by Kanaka
my brother leaves for Korea this weekend for national guard training. in his free time he will try to find these lights for me. hopefully he can get them and i can see if they will fit on my 97 maxima. wish him luck.
If you get the tails and they do not fit maybe you can pull them apart and see if the lens will fit into the US tails. If the lens fits in US tails, matches the back up lights, and could be bought separatly we could have perfect clear tails that looked stock for just a few dollars.
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In his free time he will try to find these lights for me. hopefully he can get them and i can see if they will fit on my 97 maxima. wish him luck.
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Re: Re: I will try this

Originally posted by Anachronism

If you get the tails and they do not fit maybe you can pull them apart and see if the lens will fit into the US tails. If the lens fits in US tails, matches the back up lights, and could be bought separatly we could have perfect clear tails that looked stock for just a few dollars.
that's an awesome idea. i was thinking, if he found them and they didn't fit, that i would cut out the clear portion and use that for the insert instead of the fluorescent cut outs, but i didn't think to transplant the whole outside lense. i will keep you all posted. he leaves saturday and will come back 10 days later. just for clarification, which car is he looking for? i know it's a samsung, but was did we figure out if it was the sm520, sm525 or some other model, or are they all the same except the engine? also, what years are we looking for to replace our 97-99 maximas? is is the 2002 or 2001 samsung? if no body's sure, i guess i'll just take some accurate measurements and send them off with my brother.
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Looks pretty cool, although those colors don't float my boat.. Look at the direct replacement gauge cluster piece and all the dashboard pieces.. it is not a stick-on kit. This would look 10X cleaner... And that looks identical to a 4th gen, no question about that.

90$ for FOUR taillight pieces even if shipping would be like a 100$, 190$ for 4 taillight pieces is a hell of a lot cheaper then you can buy 4 pieces in US even used at a junkyard. If only these things fit, it would be a great bargain and a very nic mod. The trunk just looks different but the actual tails themselves are very, very close. The headlights sparked my interest too.. 180$ for a pair of 1 piece headlights... not too shabby.
I need those dash panels!
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Re: I will try this

Originally posted by Kanaka
my brother leaves for Korea this weekend for national guard training. in his free time he will try to find these lights for me. hopefully he can get them and i can see if they will fit on my 97 maxima. wish him luck.
Well, whatever happened... He didn't find the lights?
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i went as far as to contact renault about these. no answer so i stop careing.
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