I want a 5 speed

 

wheres that point so next time I'll know when to pick on a stick maxima

 

I do agree that the auto has tall gears but in rare cases (and I am one of them) I am only a few hundredths of a second slower from 0-60 stock for stock. 0-60 isn't the autos problem, the gear ratio and the torque converter is the problem. If we had better transmission produced for the sportier driving, we'd see autos running almost neck and neck like the 2k2's auto and manual.

 

deezo's 60' is faster than yrs dave... cool

 

the 2k2 auto and 6-speed...do NOT run neck and neck....autos trap around 94mph while the 6-speeds trap around 98mph....



Hey auto guys....you're only argument is that the "fastest" cars have autos....don't you mean quickest??? I don't see a McLaren F1 with an auto trans...and that thing goes over 230mph....which makes it FAST.

There is ONE QUICKER auto max in the entire world...not very impressive since there's a 5-speed that traps HIGHER than that auto.

I don't see how 1/4 mile drag queens make you guys justify your allegience to automatic transmissions.

I have a Manual for 2 reasons....I LOVE driving stick, and I never have to go "OH $HIT" at 35mph when my car doesn't downshift

 

My money is that if Quansung got a dyno....he'd be making 30hp less that he should just like a slew of other 5th gens with broken variable intakes...I'll bet the VI problem is more prevelant than you all think.

That's how Chi99Limited (modded SE-L auto) BARELY beat up on his brother's (MAX2000JP) modded 5th gen 5-speed....


If you think that article was "just a race" than you missed the ENTIRE POINT....it simply stated that the difference between manual and auto is VERY apparent in even otherwise identical cars and the reason they like the manual is because of "driving experience" NOT simply straight line speed.

 

No I mean the FASTEST. My 4th gear is TALLER than your 5th gear. BTW I did not say car, I said MAXIMA.

And FYI when I run the 1/4 I have my spare,2 12's in the trunk, all leather interior, dual power seats, full back seat, nothing removed.

Drag queen I think not. More like the center of a football team.

 

Read my comment again. I said ALMOST neck and neck. The 2k2's have better auto trannies with better shifting at high rpm's.

 

It was an article about which was quicker. Nowhere in the article did they that the auto was one of the smoothest shifting transmissions out there. Nowhere did they say the auto allow for better gas mileage than the manual on the highway. Like I was saying before, they are testing for drivability, they are saying the auto is slower in acceleration.

Driving experience

There's more to driving than just hard accelerating and downshifts. I would like to see them in NYC or Boston traffic praising the 5 speed. My lady has a 5 speed Accord and I don't drive it at all because the last time I drove it I got frustrated with the involvement shifting and clutching (not to say that I'm to big for her car to be driving a stick anyway).


People take what you want from the article, to me it was a race.

 

Yes, but the diference gives the advantage to the GXE. Less standard equipment in the GXE makes it lighter than the SE. Still, the 5 speed SE is way more fun than the auto GXE

DW

 

In other words, the AUTO is the auto's problem

Sorry, couldn't resist


DW

 

You know, I don't mean to knock all you auto guys, I just love rowing my gears too much. We live in an indusrtial age where the auto tranny has evolved to the point that it will out-perform the manual and have the same fuel efficiency. Compare today's production cars that have 5 speed autos as well as 6 speed manauls. Performance difference is almost gone. The 2K2 Maxima has either the modern 6 speed manual or antiquated 4 speed auto as an option. Nissan could have put their new 5 speed auto in there but I guess they're leaving that to the next Maxima.

Even as autos continue to advance, like the CVT which is more efficient in terms of power and performance than a manual, there is something that the manual will have that the auto will never have, the fun factor.

With that, I'll be driving stick for quite a while to come

DW

 

I have owned a 4th Gen auto and now a 5sp. I did not buy the 5sp because it was slightly faster; even if the 5 sp was not any faster than an auto I bought the car because I must have control of the transmission. The autos are not slow, once you are on the road we are all VQs. We are all capable of getting well into the triple digits so it is not just about speed. Near my sub division there is a winding back road and sometimes I am just sitting in the garage and I just jump in the car and hit the road, it is very exhilerating to hit the curves and row through the gears and downshifting it is almost therapuetic, the back road was never as exciting with the auto. To each his/her own, I just fall into the category that I must have a stick



[QUOTE]Originally posted by dwapenyi
You know, I don't mean to knock all you auto guys, I just love rowing my gears too much. We live in an indusrtial age where the auto tranny has evolved to the point that it will out-perform the manual and have the same fuel efficiency. Compare today's production cars that have 5 speed autos as well as 6 speed manauls. Performance difference is almost gone. The 2K2 Maxima has either the modern 6 speed manual or antiquated 4 speed auto as an option. Nissan could have put their new 5 speed auto in there but I guess they're leaving that to the next Maxima.

Even as autos continue to advance, like the CVT which is more efficient in terms of power and performance than a manual, there is something that the manual will have that the auto will never have, the fun factor.

With that, I'll be driving stick for quite a while to come

DW [/QUOTE

 

Its a problem if you buy the auto to race it. It's not a problem for everyday driving. I love this thing on the highway during long trips and in the city kickin around from light to light.

 

At one point in our infamous Pike vid, Sprint was surprised that I was drafting his a** hard and he even couldn't believe it. Granted the autos are a bit slower I know I'm in 5 speed territory.

 

Stupid Limiter.

I was catching up too.

Screw this issue like R. Kelly does minors.

Can't well just get along ???

- I hate this debate.