Anyone out there no why my brakes squeek constantly just had the replaced about 3 months ago havent been driving the car hard could it be from the winter? or what last time they said the rotors were glazed what the f%^& is that? anyone out ther know what the hell there are talking about let me know thanks

olice:

 

did you have the rotors turned?

 

Had them on my Max (98) when I first got it... stopped squealing finally after 10K-20K clicks on it.

maybe a maxima thing?

 

mine squeak only when they're wet...dunno why.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by gepetto
mine squeak only when they're wet...dunno why. [/QUOTe}
I had new rotors and pads put on in september...... anyone else any ideas ohh and for the wet thing after a wash the breaks dont squeek for like id say a coupe hours or so i dont get it! thanx everyone~

 

From all the comments that I've seen on the forum I'm gonna guess that either cheapo pads or high performance pads are causing the squealing. I saw a lady in the Nissan dealer once complain about the same thing, and yes, those dudes at the muffler shop that say "yeah we do that" gave her a brake job only a mo. prior. The Nissan dealer replaced her pads with factory OEM, that was the only solution they had.

Are OEM needed for squeal-free operation? I don't know but I put in the OEM myself and no squeals. Trial and error would be the only way to really tell. For example, we have a enterprise program that records randomly employees' pc screens. That way a manager can know what the employee is actually doing on their pc, obviously the majority is not work related in many cases. It works for 95, 98, ME, and NT 4.0. Wont work on Win2k Pro. Why? We're not sure, have to try different configs to get the answer. Same thing with brakes if you don't want OEM, just have to try things to see which works best.

 

About a month ago I needed new pads on the front. Actually I went in for a new tire and the guy tells me I need new pads. So they put on the pads it says to put on the 98 Maxima and I drive out, hit the brakes and squeak. So I figured that it just has to "wear in". Well I am about 500 miles later and their still squeaking very loud. It happens only when I'm going under 10MPH and only if I apply slight pressure. It is sooo annoying. I'm going to take it back to those jerks and see what they can do. My guess is that they're cheap pads. If that's what it is, I'll go to a Nissan dealer and get genuine pads.

 

Just apply some "Brake Quiet" (blue goo) to the back of the pads. You can get the stuff at AutoZone for $4.

 

do they last forever?

 

Frank Fontaine is right that its more than likely cheap "aftermarket" pads, and not OE pads.

Having the rotors not cut during the brake job would cause some vibration in the wheel when brakes are applied. Not much of a culprit for sound, just an unwanted shimmy in the wheel.

sinewave, the blue anti-squeal is for pads backing w/ brake shims, prevents them from rattling around. It will not solve a squealling problem.

Get OE Pads, + have rotors checked for thickness and if needed to replace, then replace, but within spec, have them cut.
May end up paying more, but you'll know 100% they won't squeal and since its OE, you know you'll be safe, as for installer's skill, hope you know the mechanic well.

 

You are wrong about the blue goo; it is SPECIFICALLY for stopping brake squeal. The reason brakes squeal is because of the harmonics (vibrations) on the metal backing plate of the the brake pad. The blue goo dampens those vibrations, greatly reducing the noise.

Buying OEM is no gaurantee of having quiet brakes (unless you use the the small packets of Brake Quiet that are usually included in the box).

 

Do you really think so ?????

I certainly don't.

For example, two brake jobs done, one OE, the other aftermarket pads.
Rotors are cut, and still within spec. Anti-Squeal blue by PermaTex is used on both pads.

Explain why OE Pads vs Aftermarket ones, done the right way w/ the anti-squeal on both sets and the Aftermarket still squeals ?????????????????

Since we are talking about MAXIMAS HERE.
Buying OEM Guarantees SQEAL FREE OPERATION, since they were designed for the car, and obviously manufacturers aren't that stupid to have any OE pad make noise like an aftermarket pad.

I went through this question more than enough times, and I've been TOLD to USE Anti-Squeal w/ Aftermarket pads, and rotors were cut, and 80 grit sandpaper and pads were resurfaced in a "figure 8" pattern. All components cleaned w/ brake cleaner, bled the brakes, replaced all components, lubed caliper slide pins, torqued down, customer sent off on his way, only to come back within 24hours to ask for OE pads.
97 Maxima w/ Bendix IQ(Import Quiet Pads)
OE pads used, no complaints 25,000 miles later. Believe it or not, he is scheduled for brake job at next oil change in 2 months.

My own experience tells me what I say on this forum, if you have another point of view, you are entitled to it.

-Peace

 

Geez, where do I start?

I CAN'T explain it because it never happened to me. Did this actually occur or is this some hypothetical or anicdotal situation?

Oh really? Is there a "Guarenteed not to squeal or your money back" sticker on a box of OEM pads?


Since when has any car manufacturer given a rat's a$$ about the customer after they have gotten his money? Seriously though, why would a brake pad manufacturer care less about customer satisfaction?
Were you also told to follow the directions on the anti-squeal package? Honestly, that is the only reason I can think of for it not working for you.

I am not a professional mechanic, but I have been doing my own brakes since disc brakes were first avaliable on domestic cars (that's right, since 1971). In all of those brake jobs, the only ones that made noise are the ones I failed to use anti-squeal. The noise went away when I dismantled the brakes and applied anti-squeal AS PER THE INSTRUCTIONS.

YMMV
(Your Mileage May Vary)

 

The blue goo works. I had squealing brakes, so I went through and cleaned them, then put on the blue goo. No more squeal.

 

#1 Happened to me several times, and everytime, I switch them to OE pads.

#2 your sarcasm sux. Obviously it doesn't but notice OE pads don't sqeal like Aftermarket pads do.

#3 Car manufactures do care about issues of sounds when it comes to brakes, and obviously you are thinking along the lines of an aftermarket pad, where they don't care as much as Car Manufacturer Dealer parts. Its your attitude towards manufacturers that obviously biases you to say such a false statement.

#4 Yes, I followed directions, its not like taking apart a motor and reassembling it. Honestly, I can't say much since its my own experience, and I have no bias towards brake pads, its just my job to install them, and thats all I deal with. When I do have to deal w/ customer complaints, I always tell them before hand to get OE pads, but obviously the squealling brake usually stems from use of non OE pads.

#5 I am ASE certified in ABS technologies along w/ braking systems, I've been a tech since 1996, working on cars since 1994. Obviously I may have not been around much, but I've learned all there is to know about braking systems, physics, troubleshooting, and technology behind the new systems that use ABS and Traction control. If it works for you, then so be it; IMO, I cannot stress more than to use OE for everyday driving, and in some "street" applications. I leave aftermarket for high performance or those who are on a budget and are willing to accept the compromise involved in using non-oe pads.

 

Cheap brake pads squeak. Warped rotors could cause squeak. Lame technician, who put greasy fingerprints on rotors, could cause squeak. Most performance metallic pads squeak. Thinner rotors vibrate at different harmonics then new rotors and will squeak. Never turn rotors. Yes, new pads will need more time to reface/breakin with old rotors. If there is no pedal pulsation and they are in spec, use them as is. If they are out of spec or feel warped/pulsate, REPLACE! Ever wonder why dogs chase cars? It is because the brakes squeak at a frequency we can't hear. Quality pads are designed to squeak beyond our hearing range.
OEM pads are designed for the U.S. market. We want quiet pads that don't dust too much. Nissan U.S. pads don't squeak. About 10 years ago, I ordered Nissan foreign pads for an '88 Maxima & '90 Sentra. They squeaked, lasted longer, dusted more, and stopped better; I am not sure if Nissan specs different pads for different markets anymore; And don't care because of the availability of performance pads.
I have used Raybestos QS (pepboys) ceramic pads. They do not squeak and feel equal to OEM. But, they cost as much as OEM. I bought the pads because dealer parts dept was closed and I wanted to get the brakes finished that night.
Courtesy wants $51 for front and $43 for rear pads for the 2000 Maxima. Autozone.com has front pads for $21 and $34; And rear pads from $11-$17. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!
I have always used spray-can stop-squeak on the back of the pads and both sides of the shims. I always throw out the little tube of crap; too much of a hassle. The shims' job used to be to help reduce squeaking. Make sure that they are installed.
I also have used EBC(tirerack) and Mintex(nopi) pads. Sometimes they squeak and sometimes they don't. I am ordering Hawk HPS for a 2000 Altima. I will be doing that brake job soon and hope that they don't squeak(finicky driver).

If you have squeaky brakes, please test this:
http://www.lubegard.com/automotive/b...eakrelief.html
http://www.qmimo.com/qmi_home_page_040.htm
Let us know if it works.