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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 04:22 PM
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G35 is the winner!

I got the July R&T today. They did an 11 super sedan comparo. It went as follows:

11 Lincoln LS
10 Jaguar X-type 3.0 (arent they the same car?)
9 Volvo S60 T5 (the little turbo)
8 Cadillac CTS (I cant believe it wasnt last)
7 Mercedes-Benz C320 Sport
6 Acura 3.2 TL Type-S (mid-pack finish; take heart everyone! we'll see if it still stands that way when the new TL comes)
5 Audi A4 3.0 Quattro
4 SAAB 9-5 Aero (another small turbo)
3 Lexus IS300
2 BMW 330i (gasp!!! Germany is knocked from the top!)
1 Infiniti G35

1/4mi.....14.7 @ 95.2
700ft slalom...65.0 mph
roadholding....0.86g

compared to the bimmer:
1/4mi.....14.7 @ 96.3
700ft slalom...65.4 mph
roadholding....0.86g

think Nissan is targeting anyone in particular?

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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 06:10 PM
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Re: G35 is the winner!

Originally posted by JimmyH

think Nissan is targeting anyone in particular?

Jimmy
I just hope they put in a decent manual gearbox into the upcoming coupe and 4-door 6-speeds...
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 06:40 PM
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dont get me wrong..i like the G35..its the back styling i just dont like for some reason
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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I was hoping G35 with its 260 HP and 260 TQ would run a little faster than that.
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by AndyXXL
I was hoping G35 with its 260 HP and 260 TQ would run a little faster than that.
i agree.

They tested comparable cars with much less hp and it they did almost as well.. plus they tested some of those cars to their full potential, something that most magazines don't do. This just indicates that the G35 will probably run around 14.7.. It kind of makes sense a little bit though... The Maxima is lighter with similar #s and runs 3 tenths faster in the 1/4
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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Was the Bimmer a 5sp?

If it was....then you know the mtx version of the g35 will be a good bit quicker.

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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:22 PM
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i agree.

They tested comparable cars with much less hp and it they did almost as well.. plus they tested some of those cars to their full potential, something that most magazines don't do. This just indicates that the G35 will probably run around 14.7.. It kind of makes sense a little bit though... The Maxima is lighter with similar #s and runs 3 tenths faster in the 1/4
The G35 is auto so expect it to walk the 330i when the manual version comes out I really wish I could have a 6spd G35, hmm..
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:25 PM
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The G35 is auto so expect it to walk the 330i when the manual version comes out I really wish I could have a 6spd G35, hmm..
its ok your car looks awsome
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:29 PM
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its ok your car looks awsome
Thank you I plan on keeping it for a while.
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:30 PM
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Thank you I plan on keeping it for a while.
Is that so?
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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Is that so?
who will win, if andy races a G35?
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by costcowholesale

who will win, if andy races a G35?
G35, but only because I don't race
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by AndyXXL


G35, but only because I don't race
you just don't want a infiniti to spank you
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by emax95


The G35 is auto so expect it to walk the 330i when the manual version comes out I really wish I could have a 6spd G35, hmm..
wasn't the bimmer a stick and the g35 an auto????
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 07:56 PM
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wasn't the bimmer a stick and the g35 an auto????
Yup
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
Yup
i;m impressed with a 14.7 then.
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 08:06 PM
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how did the IS300 with such a sh*tty interior end up in third place
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 09:48 PM
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how did the IS300 with such a sh*tty interior end up in third place-------------------------------------------

because like it or not, Lexus makes a hell of car

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wasn't the bimmer a stick and the g35 an auto????
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the 330 has a 35 hp handicap, probably about how much the infiniti's torque converter sucks up

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dont get me wrong..i like the G35..its the back styling i just dont like for some reason-------------------------------------------

they show pictures of the new coupe (which gets 275 hp by the way) from the front, side and back. And let me tell you something, the g35 coupe gives up nothing to the Z. Plus you can take your wife and friends out in it. I just know I couldnt live with a car with no back doors. Lets hope they give the 4door 6speed the extra 15 hp.
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by AndyXXL


Is that so?
Yep unless I start making more money
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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Since when does the overpriced 330 run a 14.7. I personally spanked one of those a month ago. WTF ! If he's running 14.7, he should be able to beat me. Then again for 42K, he should hope to win..... 12K in mods to my Max ===== !!!!
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 09:55 PM
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Yep unless I start making more money
Your car does look good.

Any idea how it compares (acceleration that is) to the new Altima? I drove one recently, and even with 20 extra horses, it did not feel like it pulled as hard as my Maxima. That was just by feel, I know they are supposed to be faster.
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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Your car does look good.

Any idea how it compares (acceleration that is) to the new Altima? I drove one recently, and even with 20 extra horses, it did not feel like it pulled as hard as my Maxima. That was just by feel, I know they are supposed to be faster.
My car is a bit quicker then a stock altima. In the twisitys I would slaughter one.
Old Jun 3, 2002 | 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
Since when does the overpriced 330 run a 14.7.
Unless they changed their testing method in the last five years, Road and Track always did conservative starts in their tests. The way you would start from a stop light. No over-revving, dropping the clutch, etc. I think C&D gets faster test times.

And BMW may be overpriced, but if I was overpaid, M5...
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I'll take the max....unless youre offering an E55 ! Screw Beemers !
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bimmers.
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Beemers, or Bimmers ==== still S#$K !
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Originally posted by kloogy
Beemers, or Bimmers ==== still S#$K !
My sentiments exactly.
Old Jun 4, 2002 | 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by kloogy
I'll take the max....unless youre offering an E55 ! Screw Beemers !
Beemers - BMW Motorcycles

Bimmers - BMW cars

Beamers - Rays of sunlight.
Old Jun 4, 2002 | 05:15 AM
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This comparison in R&T >>

was not so much about which car was the fastest, but rather which car is the most bang for the buck. The G35 wins hands down, and would only raise it's standing when the manual tranny version comes out. I like the G35, but unless they do something about those queer taillights and put the parking brake handle where it belongs, I'll still be looking at the A4.
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I predicted last fall that the G35 was going to be a hit and the coupe will outsell most in its class.
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Yeah, I think the G35 coupe is going to be such a hot seller. The ugly taillights of the sedan are completey taken care of in the coupe. Everything about the coupe is just beautiful. Just as pretty in real life (I saw it at the NYC car show) as in the pictures. Dealers are going to be able to up the price b/c demand will be so high.

I've shown several friends who had their mind set on CL-Ss, BMW etc the G35. They were like "What is this?" They're waiting 'till fall now

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Originally posted by deezo
I predicted last fall that the G35 was going to be a hit and the coupe will outsell most in its class.
Old Jun 4, 2002 | 06:37 AM
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If an auto runs 14.7....

Imagine what a 6-speed could do with some sticky rubber in the back & an aggressive launch.

Not that you'd want to aggressively launch your Infiniti sedan.
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Originally posted by dwapenyi
Yeah, I think the G35 coupe is going to be such a hot seller. The ugly taillights of the sedan are completey taken care of in the coupe. Everything about the coupe is just beautiful. Just as pretty in real life (I saw it at the NYC car show) as in the pictures. Dealers are going to be able to up the price b/c demand will be so high.
I'm officially on the list for one of these bad-boys! I can't wait! Test drove the sedan a couple weekends ago and the coupe is going to be even better. I'll get it in either this silver or black, and the dealer (sales manager) promised it at MSRP w/ no markup.

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Oh crap...if that sig pic is actually what the G35 coupes are gonna look like...

...man, I'd better start cutting out every unnecessary expense in my lifestyle to save up for that.
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Gonna?? That is the G35 Coupe. See it all over freshalloy here;

http://freshalloy.com/site/cars/infi...upe/home.shtml

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Originally posted by blizz20oma
Oh crap...if that sig pic is actually what the G35 coupes are gonna look like...

...man, I'd better start cutting out every unnecessary expense in my lifestyle to save up for that.
Old Jun 4, 2002 | 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by deezo
I predicted last fall that the G35 was going to be a hit and the coupe will outsell most in its class.
I hope so as well I just hope they can keep up with demand seeing as infiniti is a pretty pathetic seller before the G35.
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I'm officially on the list for one of these bad-boys! I can't wait! Test drove the sedan a couple weekends ago and the coupe is going to be even better. I'll get it in either this silver or black, and the dealer (sales manager) promised it at MSRP w/ no markup.
Buying a car at the retail price is something I would never do, no matter how much I like that car. Good luck when Mr. Depreciation knocks on your door.
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That's always something I've wondered >>

Originally posted by AndyXXL


Buying a car at the retail price is something I would never do, no matter how much I like that car. Good luck when Mr. Depreciation knocks on your door.
How is it some cars depreciate less than others. I mean, I know that it's in the NADA book and all that...but who determines that? I mean at this stage in the game, it seems as though companies like BMW could make a total piece of crap, and still ahve it depreciate little, just because it's got a BMW badge. Car like Infiniti, which are manufactured quite well, don't seems like they will ever fall out of the high depreciation category.
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Buying a car at the retail price is something I would never do, no matter how much I like that car. Good luck when Mr. Depreciation knocks on your door.
I never have before either. Hell, I paid nearly $4K below sticker for my current Maxima ($1500 under invoice). I got my first new car ('92 Sentra) $2K below sticker and it was only a $12.5K sticker to begin with.

But this is a "gotta have" car for me. I'm willing to pay MSRP for it, but not over. You're not gonna be on a list for a hot car like this and expect to pay under sticker. (My brother just got his M3 in April and paid sticker, all $56K of it.) And while my average length of time for keeping cars works out to about 27 months currently, I foresee keeping this one for several years (like, 7-10). This is the first car I've seen in about a decade that I can say that about.

Anyway, BMW dealers aren't too well known for negotiating anyway, so I'd be interested in seeing how much you actually ended up paying. My boss has a '02 325i and she haggled for almost two hours to get a measly $900 off a $36K sticker, for what is an overpriced car already (IMO).
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I never have before either. Hell, I paid nearly $4K below sticker for my current Maxima ($1500 under invoice). I got my first new car ('92 Sentra) $2K below sticker and it was only a $12.5K sticker to begin with.

But this is a "gotta have" car for me. I'm willing to pay MSRP for it, but not over. You're not gonna be on a list for a hot car like this and expect to pay under sticker. (My brother just got his M3 in April and paid sticker, all $56K of it.) And while my average length of time for keeping cars works out to about 27 months currently, I foresee keeping this one for several years (like, 7-10). This is the first car I've seen in about a decade that I can say that about.

Anyway, BMW dealers aren't too well known for negotiating anyway, so I'd be interested in seeing how much you actually ended up paying. My boss has a '02 325i and she haggled for almost two hours to get a measly $900 off a $36K sticker, for what is an overpriced car already (IMO).
What's the sticker price on G35 coupe?
I don't know where your boss lives, it all depends on location, but I payed $2700 below retail, or less than 3% over invoice. However, I spent a month haggling, not two hours. 330Ci is well worth for me. I got what I really wanted and more than expected.



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