Run in with a 2k2 SE auto
i know but i posted because i get tired of auto owners getting no respect but i just think comparing an auto to a stick isn't right why not compare a fully modded 4th gen to a 2k2 6 spd and compare a 4th auto fully modded against a 2k2 auto if you catch my drift
Originally posted by Dave B
Don't get me wrong. I think the automatic 2k2s are lightyears better than the 95-01 autos. If I were to get a 2k2, I'd get a GLE (ie I'd get an auto).
Pulling 10 cars to 120mph against a 2k2 auto in fully modded NA 4th gen isn't going to happen. I'd say 2 cars thru the 1/4 mile is quite possible, maybe a little more, maybe a little less. The advantage of the 2k2 auto vs the modded 4th gen is the torque from 0-70mph. It's kind of like a GTP. Strong in the lowend and a bit slow up top. When Nissan goes to a 5-speed auto in the Max/Altima, the autos will be MUCH quicker due to a much shorter 1st and 2nd gear.
Dave
Don't get me wrong. I think the automatic 2k2s are lightyears better than the 95-01 autos. If I were to get a 2k2, I'd get a GLE (ie I'd get an auto).
Pulling 10 cars to 120mph against a 2k2 auto in fully modded NA 4th gen isn't going to happen. I'd say 2 cars thru the 1/4 mile is quite possible, maybe a little more, maybe a little less. The advantage of the 2k2 auto vs the modded 4th gen is the torque from 0-70mph. It's kind of like a GTP. Strong in the lowend and a bit slow up top. When Nissan goes to a 5-speed auto in the Max/Altima, the autos will be MUCH quicker due to a much shorter 1st and 2nd gear.
Dave
Originally posted by TRUblu2K2
ok whatever thats enough and yes it does matter if you leave it od or not but who cares you win i didn't know you knew it all and would prove me wrong on everything i say so i hope you feel so good that you won against a 2k2 auto o wait you didn't lol nice job briguy i like you max its sharp by the way if i didn't mention hope your new engine works out good
ok whatever thats enough and yes it does matter if you leave it od or not but who cares you win i didn't know you knew it all and would prove me wrong on everything i say so i hope you feel so good that you won against a 2k2 auto o wait you didn't lol nice job briguy i like you max its sharp by the way if i didn't mention hope your new engine works out good
well the 2k2 auto has no OD button just to let you know
Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Im not knocking you, but it doesnt matter if you manualy shift. My brother has the exact same tranny in his car and when he goes to the track he puts it in 3. There is no need to manually shift it or use O/D. The key to getting good times in an auto is properly brake torquing it in order to achieve a good 60'. BTW the O/D off switch is only usefull for speeds ABOVE 100.
Im not knocking you, but it doesnt matter if you manualy shift. My brother has the exact same tranny in his car and when he goes to the track he puts it in 3. There is no need to manually shift it or use O/D. The key to getting good times in an auto is properly brake torquing it in order to achieve a good 60'. BTW the O/D off switch is only usefull for speeds ABOVE 100.
Originally posted by TRUblu2K2
well the 2k2 auto has no OD button just to let you know
well the 2k2 auto has no OD button just to let you know
well i'll let this one go don't need to be making enemies on the org i want everybody to help me and me be able to help out others but sometimes you let your thoughts get the best of you BUT STOP STREET RACING and wish me luck at the track
Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Same tranny..Forgot they changed the shift gate to look like a Mercedes. But all the button does is lock out 4th gear, the same as manually moving the gear shifter to 3rd.
Same tranny..Forgot they changed the shift gate to look like a Mercedes. But all the button does is lock out 4th gear, the same as manually moving the gear shifter to 3rd.
Originally posted by TRUblu2K2
well i'll let this one go don't need to be making enemies on the org i want everybody to help me and me be able to help out others but sometimes you let your thoughts get the best of you BUT STOP STREET RACING and wish me luck at the track
well i'll let this one go don't need to be making enemies on the org i want everybody to help me and me be able to help out others but sometimes you let your thoughts get the best of you BUT STOP STREET RACING and wish me luck at the track
Originally posted by TRUblu2K2
i know but i posted because i get tired of auto owners getting no respect but i just think comparing an auto to a stick isn't right why not compare a fully modded 4th gen to a 2k2 6 spd and compare a 4th auto fully modded against a 2k2 auto if you catch my drift
i know but i posted because i get tired of auto owners getting no respect but i just think comparing an auto to a stick isn't right why not compare a fully modded 4th gen to a 2k2 6 spd and compare a 4th auto fully modded against a 2k2 auto if you catch my drift
Re: Re: Re: Run in with a 2k2 SE auto
Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Your an idiot. The guy sped up to 90 mph from 20 and you tell me he wasnt racing???
Your an idiot. The guy sped up to 90 mph from 20 and you tell me he wasnt racing???
Re: Re: Re: Re: Run in with a 2k2 SE auto
Originally posted by tfalcon
Thats not the point, the point is that every car that might give his or her car a little gas does not mean they want to race. I would have flipped him off too. What did he expect an invitation to Christmas dinner for beating him. He was probably ****ed for losing but no reason to call him a jerkoff. Thanks for calling me an idiot, my wife is much harder on me than that, but thanks for trying to be.
Thats not the point, the point is that every car that might give his or her car a little gas does not mean they want to race. I would have flipped him off too. What did he expect an invitation to Christmas dinner for beating him. He was probably ****ed for losing but no reason to call him a jerkoff. Thanks for calling me an idiot, my wife is much harder on me than that, but thanks for trying to be.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Run in with a 2k2 SE auto
Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Well you better watch out who you flick off. One day you might do it to the wrong person!
Well you better watch out who you flick off. One day you might do it to the wrong person!
Can't remember the last time. Too many crazies out there to do that regularly, thats for sure. See Ya
Re: Run in with a 2k2 SE auto
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
This guy was a jerkoff.
I turned a corner behind him....he punched it out of the corner...so I punched it too....pulled into the right lane...easily passed him and had 2 cars on him by 80....where I shut it down....so I give him a thumbs up....and he flicks me off!!!!!
Some maxima drivers are @ssholes.....
This guy was a jerkoff.
I turned a corner behind him....he punched it out of the corner...so I punched it too....pulled into the right lane...easily passed him and had 2 cars on him by 80....where I shut it down....so I give him a thumbs up....and he flicks me off!!!!!
Some maxima drivers are @ssholes.....
Originally posted by deezo
I've gotten faster times than some 4th gen 5 speeds and did it stock too.
I've gotten faster times than some 4th gen 5 speeds and did it stock too.

and watch who ya flick off! some of us are bad tempered!
<---- meflick me off and I dont like I'm comin after you with everyone knows I have in my trunk
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Re: Re: Re: Run in with a 2k2 SE auto
I'll race him
I have the slowest year for a 4th gen auto...1999 cali-spec.
I have the slowest year for a 4th gen auto...1999 cali-spec.
Originally posted by MAX2000JP
He would beat you....He ran a 14.7 with a higher trap speed than you on a humid/hot night last summer.
He would beat you....He ran a 14.7 with a higher trap speed than you on a humid/hot night last summer.
4th gen Auto vs 2k2 auto, both stock, 2k2 auto
4th gen manual vs 2k2 auto, I think modded the 4th gen can take it
4th gen manual vs 2k2 6-speed, bye bye 4th gen, those both stock of course
Bri's car is fast from what I hear. I have driven both 4th gen manuals and 2k2 autos, stock good race, Modded manual like Bri's, the auto would lose in most cases if the 4th gen guy is a good driver. But the right 2k2 auto can turn in a 14.4(search and you will see)
THESE ARE MY OPINIONS only
4th gen manual vs 2k2 auto, I think modded the 4th gen can take it
4th gen manual vs 2k2 6-speed, bye bye 4th gen, those both stock of course
Bri's car is fast from what I hear. I have driven both 4th gen manuals and 2k2 autos, stock good race, Modded manual like Bri's, the auto would lose in most cases if the 4th gen guy is a good driver. But the right 2k2 auto can turn in a 14.4(search and you will see)
THESE ARE MY OPINIONS only
TruBlu2k2-
I don't consider a 2k2 6 speed, modded or not, a threat in my modded 4th gen 5 speed. I may get beat, I may not. Anything can happen on the street or at the track. Like I've said before, I've beaten plenty of 13-second cars on and off the track. With no timing devices to record reaction time and ET, a street race is a crap shoot. If one guy gets the initial jump, it's very hard to catch up.
Example:
I was toying around with my buddy and his 99 Dakota standard cab 5.2 V8 with an intake last weekend. He was alone and I had a 180lb passenger. We ran from a 30mph roll. He got a slight second jump on me and it took me from 30-70mph to catch him and pass him. From 70-85mph I literally ran away from him. This truck has done a best of a 15.4@90mph with the intake and horrible 60'. See what I'm getting at?
Until you go to the track, you probably won't understand all of this. Also, be prepared for disappointment at the track. You'll usually will run about .3-.5 slower than you think. It takes lots of practice to get everything just right, even if you have an automagic.
Dave
I don't consider a 2k2 6 speed, modded or not, a threat in my modded 4th gen 5 speed. I may get beat, I may not. Anything can happen on the street or at the track. Like I've said before, I've beaten plenty of 13-second cars on and off the track. With no timing devices to record reaction time and ET, a street race is a crap shoot. If one guy gets the initial jump, it's very hard to catch up.
Example:
I was toying around with my buddy and his 99 Dakota standard cab 5.2 V8 with an intake last weekend. He was alone and I had a 180lb passenger. We ran from a 30mph roll. He got a slight second jump on me and it took me from 30-70mph to catch him and pass him. From 70-85mph I literally ran away from him. This truck has done a best of a 15.4@90mph with the intake and horrible 60'. See what I'm getting at?
Until you go to the track, you probably won't understand all of this. Also, be prepared for disappointment at the track. You'll usually will run about .3-.5 slower than you think. It takes lots of practice to get everything just right, even if you have an automagic.
Dave
Re: Re: Re: Re: Run in with a 2k2 SE auto
Originally posted by tfalcon
Thats not the point, the point is that every car that might give his or her car a little gas does not mean they want to race. I would have flipped him off too. What did he expect an invitation to Christmas dinner for beating him. He was probably ****ed for losing but no reason to call him a jerkoff. Thanks for calling me an idiot, my wife is much harder on me than that, but thanks for trying to be.
Thats not the point, the point is that every car that might give his or her car a little gas does not mean they want to race. I would have flipped him off too. What did he expect an invitation to Christmas dinner for beating him. He was probably ****ed for losing but no reason to call him a jerkoff. Thanks for calling me an idiot, my wife is much harder on me than that, but thanks for trying to be.
You weren't there and you don't know what events led up to the race...and what happened after...
FYI - he was driving like an ahole BEFORE I ran him....that's what got my attention in the first place...and I know he saw me...becuase he hit it in the LEFT lane before I hit it in the RIGHT lane...I never cut him off or anything...after the race...I stuck my hand out my window and gave him a thumbs up....he then proceeded to flick me off....now who's the jerkoff???
BTW - for all the "auto" guys out there.....did I ever say autos suck???? Was this thread intended to rip on autos??? HELL NO....
I was simply sharing an experience...and then all the sudden people start "hating"
This thread was pretty funny back at the beginning when everyone was calling BS on everyone else, I'm glad that's all calmed down now.
BTW I've run a 2k2 auto with approximately the same results, about 3 cars from a dead stop by 80.
BTW I've run a 2k2 auto with approximately the same results, about 3 cars from a dead stop by 80.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Run in with a 2k2 SE auto
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
BTW - for all the "auto" guys out there.....did I ever say autos suck???? Was this thread intended to rip on autos??? HELL NO....
I was simply sharing an experience...and then all the sudden people start "hating"
BTW - for all the "auto" guys out there.....did I ever say autos suck???? Was this thread intended to rip on autos??? HELL NO....
I was simply sharing an experience...and then all the sudden people start "hating"
j/p I will say I am VERY impressed by the 2k2 autos, their tranmissions are lighyears ahead of the autos in previous models but simple as that a manual trannied Max is still faster, even us 4th gen guys can be
the 2k2 is fast, but us mod'd 4th gens can keep up with the fastest 2k2s... dont trip! we're mod'd!
and Mr. kloogy
I dont hate rustangs as long as they are faster than my Maxima personally I'm an F-body kinda guy
Originally posted by Turbo97GXE
Veetec ran 14.7 bone stock in his 97 5spd SE, Neal ran 14.8 in his bone stock 96 5spd SE and VQ driver ran 14.8 bone stock in his 96 5spd..
and a host of others have run 14.9 bone stock in 5spd 4th Gen's.. Please use the search function
Veetec ran 14.7 bone stock in his 97 5spd SE, Neal ran 14.8 in his bone stock 96 5spd SE and VQ driver ran 14.8 bone stock in his 96 5spd..
and a host of others have run 14.9 bone stock in 5spd 4th Gen's.. Please use the search function

Please use the 'think' function before you type a response.
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Originally posted by F23A4
Read the post brah; I said 'I've never seen'. It's logical then to infer that I probably haven't seen Veetec, Neal or VQ driver.
Please use the 'think' function before you type a response.
Read the post brah; I said 'I've never seen'. It's logical then to infer that I probably haven't seen Veetec, Neal or VQ driver.
Please use the 'think' function before you type a response.

its safe to say you have never seen an M5 or M3 run at the track.. but you don't dispute their performance numbers.. why? because you did research and are now educated with such knowledge.. its safe to say alot of cars you have knowledge of 1/4 mile time you have never seen run at a track..
so in your opinion and going by your thought process.. the fastest a 2k2 Auto has run is 14.9X because thats what you ran all day at etown..
next time you think before you type
My god what's wrong with you ppl. So insecure. BriGuyMax was just posting a thread about some race he had with an a-hole in a maxima. Sheesh. So why call BS on a guy that has no reason to lie?
Obviously you guys are missing the fact that in real life things are a lot different than on paper. He said they punched it coming out of a corner. This means that they 2k2 floored it and his tranny took a few tenths of a second to figure out what gear to be in, and his 2k2 drive by wire took another tenth and then his car put down the power. With his 4 speed gearing he may have been at a not so happy place in the power band.
All the while Brian is already in the right gear, at the meaty place in his powerband and gets the jump on him coming out of the corner.
WELL, since we all have been to high school, and know that acceleration is a non-linear process.. We know that for every second that goes by, Brian is not only gaining distance, but velocity as well. The gap can only increase unless the 2k2's car is SIGNIFIGANTLY faster than his.
Reaction time is everything. A couple tenths of hesitation in you or your car can mean 3-4 car lengths by 90 mph in equally matched vehicles.
Besides, BriGuyMax knows how to drive and he has a butt ton of mods. Give credit where credit is due.
Obviously you guys are missing the fact that in real life things are a lot different than on paper. He said they punched it coming out of a corner. This means that they 2k2 floored it and his tranny took a few tenths of a second to figure out what gear to be in, and his 2k2 drive by wire took another tenth and then his car put down the power. With his 4 speed gearing he may have been at a not so happy place in the power band.
All the while Brian is already in the right gear, at the meaty place in his powerband and gets the jump on him coming out of the corner.
WELL, since we all have been to high school, and know that acceleration is a non-linear process.. We know that for every second that goes by, Brian is not only gaining distance, but velocity as well. The gap can only increase unless the 2k2's car is SIGNIFIGANTLY faster than his.
Reaction time is everything. A couple tenths of hesitation in you or your car can mean 3-4 car lengths by 90 mph in equally matched vehicles.
Besides, BriGuyMax knows how to drive and he has a butt ton of mods. Give credit where credit is due.
i give credit to briguy and you made a good point i know my 2k2 auto has a weak point were it feels a corolla could take me for about a 1/2 second then it hits about 4500 rpm's good bye i love my auto but i still know that autos are better for drag racing
This isn't Eatontown
Originally posted by F23A4
You wanna bet. I've never seen a pre-2K2 Max run upper 14s without mods. I ran 14.9XX all day Saturday @ Etown in my 2K2 Auto and I have no mods (unless you count a scheduled oil change and Amoco Ultimate as mods).
You wanna bet. I've never seen a pre-2K2 Max run upper 14s without mods. I ran 14.9XX all day Saturday @ Etown in my 2K2 Auto and I have no mods (unless you count a scheduled oil change and Amoco Ultimate as mods).
This is the street, and hitting a corner in a manual is a huge advantage. While most of us all agree the 2K2 is a great engine it can be beaten. Many of us 2K and 2K1 owners assumed we would walk fourth gens because we had 32 extra horses, well we don't.
Originally posted by Chinkzilla
My god what's wrong with you ppl. So insecure. BriGuyMax was just posting a thread about some race he had with an a-hole in a maxima. Sheesh. So why call BS on a guy that has no reason to lie?
Obviously you guys are missing the fact that in real life things are a lot different than on paper. He said they punched it coming out of a corner. This means that they 2k2 floored it and his tranny took a few tenths of a second to figure out what gear to be in, and his 2k2 drive by wire took another tenth and then his car put down the power. With his 4 speed gearing he may have been at a not so happy place in the power band.
All the while Brian is already in the right gear, at the meaty place in his powerband and gets the jump on him coming out of the corner.
WELL, since we all have been to high school, and know that acceleration is a non-linear process.. We know that for every second that goes by, Brian is not only gaining distance, but velocity as well. The gap can only increase unless the 2k2's car is SIGNIFIGANTLY faster than his.
Reaction time is everything. A couple tenths of hesitation in you or your car can mean 3-4 car lengths by 90 mph in equally matched vehicles.
Besides, BriGuyMax knows how to drive and he has a butt ton of mods. Give credit where credit is due.
My god what's wrong with you ppl. So insecure. BriGuyMax was just posting a thread about some race he had with an a-hole in a maxima. Sheesh. So why call BS on a guy that has no reason to lie?
Obviously you guys are missing the fact that in real life things are a lot different than on paper. He said they punched it coming out of a corner. This means that they 2k2 floored it and his tranny took a few tenths of a second to figure out what gear to be in, and his 2k2 drive by wire took another tenth and then his car put down the power. With his 4 speed gearing he may have been at a not so happy place in the power band.
All the while Brian is already in the right gear, at the meaty place in his powerband and gets the jump on him coming out of the corner.
WELL, since we all have been to high school, and know that acceleration is a non-linear process.. We know that for every second that goes by, Brian is not only gaining distance, but velocity as well. The gap can only increase unless the 2k2's car is SIGNIFIGANTLY faster than his.
Reaction time is everything. A couple tenths of hesitation in you or your car can mean 3-4 car lengths by 90 mph in equally matched vehicles.
Besides, BriGuyMax knows how to drive and he has a butt ton of mods. Give credit where credit is due.
Thank you....
BTW - he hit it first
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
Thank you....
BTW - he hit it first
Thank you....
BTW - he hit it first
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Run in with a 2k2 SE auto
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
BTW - for all the "auto" guys out there.....did I ever say autos suck???? Was this thread intended to rip on autos??? HELL NO....
I was simply sharing an experience...and then all the sudden people start "hating"
BTW - for all the "auto" guys out there.....did I ever say autos suck???? Was this thread intended to rip on autos??? HELL NO....
I was simply sharing an experience...and then all the sudden people start "hating"
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From: Near Archer High School, Ga
No one ******* out Autos,
this thread sounds like a Honda thread now something is wrong with
d!cks 2k2, WTF is that, thats B/S, he got smoked he got mad gave the finger to show how much of P!ssy he is!! go home and install some bolt ons or some N2O. And then rerace Briguy and smoke him but thats if he doesnt hook up his juice too.
Good run man, I believe you!!!
this thread sounds like a Honda thread now something is wrong with
d!cks 2k2, WTF is that, thats B/S, he got smoked he got mad gave the finger to show how much of P!ssy he is!! go home and install some bolt ons or some N2O. And then rerace Briguy and smoke him but thats if he doesnt hook up his juice too.
Good run man, I believe you!!!
ok i guess i was the start of all this venting so i fess up but i know if it was me it would have been closer and if another max pulls away from me i will flag him down just to see what he was running to beat me but i definitly wouldn't flick him off but i would be mad to lose cause i hate to lose but you win some you win somemore you lose one and win win win somemore in any max and then people are like
those type r stickers totally let me down guess i need a few more
those type r stickers totally let me down guess i need a few more
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From: Near Archer High School, Ga
Trublu you have the new 2k2, your auto is not slow at all, I dont know how many mods you have on it, but think about it, how many cars out there have 255HP?, not that many so relax. None of these guys are insulting the auto max. I raced cumalot twice and gave him a head start and he pulls off very fast and he has a 4th gen. You have the new real deal with way more power then he does.
the best mod for the 2k2 is an intake performance wise we don't have much support yet but when a y pipe comes out
then i will be happy and when the warranty is up here comes captain SC and maybe even a 75 shot to boot i might be on the road to 12's with that setup but right now its just dreams but it will be a reality in a couple years but by then i will have a grand national to show up any car on the road
then i will be happy and when the warranty is up here comes captain SC and maybe even a 75 shot to boot i might be on the road to 12's with that setup but right now its just dreams but it will be a reality in a couple years but by then i will have a grand national to show up any car on the road
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Posts: 6,451
From: Near Archer High School, Ga
Originally posted by TRUblu2K2
one more thing what would anybody think with bbs rk polished wheels on my 2k2 but the downfall is only 7.5 wide
18's that is
one more thing what would anybody think with bbs rk polished wheels on my 2k2 but the downfall is only 7.5 wide
18's that is
with that nice big car I d go with min 8.0 and youll have more tire options as well.
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From: Near Archer High School, Ga
Originally posted by TRUblu2K2
i want polished or chrome but kind of want to keep weight down got any suggestions
i want polished or chrome but kind of want to keep weight down got any suggestions
Volks the LE series in 18x8.5 I am assuming weigh in the 16.? neighborhood. Now the SSRs the GT1s are like 19lbs a piece something like that. And then the second cheapest wheel to get is the SSR comp in 18x8.5 is def 16.1, and the cheapest lightest wheel is the Centerline wheels but they only come in 7.5 sizes.
so i guess there are no light wheels in chrome or polished that don't cost 400-500 a wheel
Originally posted by JAY25
Volks the LE series in 18x8.5 I am assuming weigh in the 16.? neighborhood. Now the SSRs the GT1s are like 19lbs a piece something like that. And then the second cheapest wheel to get is the SSR comp in 18x8.5 is def 16.1, and the cheapest lightest wheel is the Centerline wheels but they only come in 7.5 sizes.
Volks the LE series in 18x8.5 I am assuming weigh in the 16.? neighborhood. Now the SSRs the GT1s are like 19lbs a piece something like that. And then the second cheapest wheel to get is the SSR comp in 18x8.5 is def 16.1, and the cheapest lightest wheel is the Centerline wheels but they only come in 7.5 sizes.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Run in with a 2k2 SE auto
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BriGuyMax
[B]
so now you call me a jerkoff....nice.
You weren't there and you don't know what events led up to the race...and what happened after...
FYI - he was driving like an ahole BEFORE I ran him....that's what got my attention in the first place...and I know he saw me...becuase he hit it in the LEFT lane before I hit it in the RIGHT lane...I never cut him off or anything...after the race...I stuck my hand out my window and gave him a thumbs up....he then proceeded to flick me off....now who's the jerkoff???
Of course I don't know the what events happened beforehand because all I had to go on was what you posted. What you posted sounded like you riding the guys bumper, he made a turn and you couldn't wait to run him down. To me that does not make you any kind of hero thinking that every car that floors it wants to race you. If it was a new Vet or a Viper or something would you have done the same thing?. If the guy was driving like a jerk than he had it coming. Maybe he thought you flipped him off instead of a thumbs up. Who knows.
[B]
so now you call me a jerkoff....nice.
You weren't there and you don't know what events led up to the race...and what happened after...
FYI - he was driving like an ahole BEFORE I ran him....that's what got my attention in the first place...and I know he saw me...becuase he hit it in the LEFT lane before I hit it in the RIGHT lane...I never cut him off or anything...after the race...I stuck my hand out my window and gave him a thumbs up....he then proceeded to flick me off....now who's the jerkoff???
Of course I don't know the what events happened beforehand because all I had to go on was what you posted. What you posted sounded like you riding the guys bumper, he made a turn and you couldn't wait to run him down. To me that does not make you any kind of hero thinking that every car that floors it wants to race you. If it was a new Vet or a Viper or something would you have done the same thing?. If the guy was driving like a jerk than he had it coming. Maybe he thought you flipped him off instead of a thumbs up. Who knows.



