1) 97ish Eclipse ? (atleast aftermarket exhaust)- started @ rolling 20MPH, smoked him to 60MPH by 2 cars. Pulled off and turned around.

2) New Protege MP3 (atleast body & exhuast mods) - started from stoplight. I shut down at 40, for he was already losing by 2 cars. Wouldn't look over.

3) New Civic EX (modded to the max, had to have some perf. work)- Asian guy putting down some series rev. From the light, his tires lit up like crazy, but I shot out and was a car ahead of him before he ever grabbed. I shut down @ 70, w/ him under 2 car lengths behind; he gave me a cool peace sign and head nodd as he passed.

4) 99-00 Camero Z28 (aftermarket exhaust, Auto) - I could hear him break torque it at the line; I did too. He spin, I shot out a car. We ran to 60, and I shut down, 2 cars ahead of him-he wouldn't look over (sorely disappointed I imagine).

Quite a night for Max! I took her home and gave her a pat on the back.

What shot did you spray on that Z28? He should have ripped your butthole soo far apart he would have been screaming in pain, especially a Ls1. I dont care if he was auto or 6spd. I've seen auto Z28's run 13.30's STOCK!

65 shot... I'm not trying to explain it, just stating a fact.

Plus, you must be talking about the Z28 SS. The standard "stock" Z28 can not do the quarter that fast-more like 14.

[Can't explain how I ran so closely w/ a 00 V8 manual Firebird 2 weeks ago, either; but it happened. His tires where squealing, and I shot off the line. At 55MPH, where we shut down, my front bumper was even with his front wheel. Again, not trying to explain, just stating facts.]

If the Z28 sat and burned through its tires in first gear, and stikya got a nice launch, then its easy to see how he won. By 60 the Camaro prolly couldn't have caught up yet.

PJ

That's my guess, I've been lauching with no spin. Plus, I can break torque it, and often guys running a stick have to take time and move from the brake to the gas-I dont'. So, with those two effects, I usually get a car length or more on everyone, before they move.

And since it's "street", I generally shut down at 50 (it's safer that way); lots of them can't catch me in that short a run. It's been working quite well for me.

wtf?! dont formula's run like 10's or less?! i remember playing Grand Turismo and the formula would sh*t on any car in that game EASILY!

I misstating cars. I thought the Formula was Pontiac V8 Firebird. This is the car I raced and only slightly lost to; it runs quarter in the 13.5-14.5 (depending on which model and manual/auto).

But, VB, Torqure converter, fuel and a 100 shot N20 upgrades are on the way. Then he better watch out!

i had a similar experince:
drivin towards town, and this sunfire (no mods) wanted some at the light, so when it turned green we stomped it and i left him off the line, and was 2-3 cars ahead by 60. while racing, i had to pass a nissan sentra (body kit, exhaust), as soon as i got in the other lane, he started revvin, took him from a 65 mph roll and walked him by 80. we both turned off to the intown hwy at the next light, he wanted to go from a stop. the light turned green, and it was close off the line, he missed 2nd gear , and i quit at 45-50. (35 mph speed limit with cops usually around)

Yea...up to only 50-60mph, with those rides, I dunno if they'd feel it was a fair go. It would take a good stick driver to have a car with enough to overtake a max with juice only to 50-60...either that, or another lighter fwd with juice.

we don' need no stinking brake...feather action (depending on the incline, but you shouldn't be racing on a severe slope anyway)

we don' need no stinking brake...feather action (depending on the incline, but you shouldn't be racing on a severe slope anyway) [/B][/QUOTE]

Many of the lights on this road do have slight inclines, and would warrant breaking in a manual. But, I figure hey, you gotta be able to run in all conditions, inclines included-that's part of the road.

Wow! You guys have no clue about the Camaros and Firebirds. I'm not gonna bash y'all because I don't know much about imports, but I hang out at LS1.com a lot which is the engine in every 98+ Camaro Z28, SS, and Firebird Formula, and Trans-Am. The Z28 and the SS are the exact same car engine and drivetrain wise! The only differences are exterior changes. The SS looks better IMHO, but it's preference. They all have the 5.7 Liter V-8 LS1 which will kick any stock or near-stock Maxima. Heck hate to sound mean y'all but those things put out 340+ HP. Add that to rear-wheel drive and the insanie torque out of the high-displacement V-8, and you have a monster off the line. Assuming he can get traction of course. They'll run 13s all day long. I've even heard of stocks breaking into the high 12 but that is next to never . Nitrous may help you, but a 65 shot should not be enough still to beat a muslce car. They're just two different worlds. Now I bet a 100 shot 3.5 Liter VQ could surprise an LS1 owner or two . Still funny to think though that a 4-door sedan can be so quick. God bless the V-6 Maximas

in street races, a lot of the outcome rests on the driver and not the car.

...but those things put out 340+ HP. ... God bless the V-6 Maximas [/B][/QUOTE]

Appreciate your opinion; but I don't know where those folks are getting their horsepower numbers they are claiming.

Any cameros and firebirds running over 340+ horses aren't stock; and certainly aren't the models I meant I was racing.

Any car mag I've ever seen says (late 90's to 2002) "stock" maximum hp of each line, Mustang, Camero and Firebird is 320HP. The models immediately below those put out 305HP (Camero and Firebird), or 265HP (Mustang). Given the fact that I raced the two 305HP models, I am not suprised I did so well.

Are you sure you raced a LS1 Camaro???? Even with your 65 shot a LS1 Z28 would pull on you. Your car with mods would be extremely lucky to break 13's. You sure you didnt race a LT1 auto????

LS1s are extremely underrated, making as much power as the vette.

I don't know much about Cameros except what I've seen and read. So you tell me if it was a LS1 or not.

It was a 99-00 body style, and had Z28 on it. It had two chrome round exhaust pipes sticking out the back (I'm assuming aftermarket), and definetly a V8 rumble. I heard him brake torque, so I knew it was automatic.

(Per Motor Trend, and other mags I've read, Camero's Z28 runs upper 13's, but only if it's 6sp; otherwise it's low 14's.)

Anyway, there could be a pleathera of reasons it turned out how it did. I'm tired of trying to justify it in this thread. I only know what happened, and I've described it all....

Bottom line: We raced, I shut down @ 50ish, and was ahead.

To stick up for the Camaro guys, yes they are very fast. Yes, they are under-rated. And as per motor trend, they can only muster high 13s and low 14s? Are these the same people who could only manage a 15 flat with the 2k2 maxima?

I definately believe you beat him, so I'm not jumping on you. Good race, I'm sure the driver was suprised! I can't wait 'til I get my maxima

Well if you only raced to 50 and shut it down I can believe you raced a LS1. Thats not really a fair race, but no problem there. If you would have raced down the 1/4 you would have gotten walked.

BTW....Z28 Manuals run mid-low 13s depending on the driver and autos run somewhere around 13.8.

Well then I guess the guy in the z28 needs to learn how to launch his car right? If he wants to spin his tires while stikya launches and puts carlengths on him thats his fault and technically he lost the race.

On the other hand I think that if you woundnt of shut down at 50 he would have caught up and walked you.