Changed oil to Mobil1 15-50 & problems
06-30-2002, 11:12 PM
#1
Changed oil to Mobil1 15-50 & problems
Due to Texas heat and my hard driving I decided to put in 15-50 due to my old mechanic's advice.
Anyways I drove it today after the oil change for about a mile and it seems there is like a tapping or knocking when the car is rolling. It's only when the engine is under load (not rolling in neutral at 30). It only does it at speeds like 15-30 (or at least that's where I can hear it).
I've always changed my oil and have never heard this. It almost feels drivetrain related. It might not have anything to do with the oil.
The engine seems to be revving smoothly, it's just this knock or clicking somewhere. Like a sound that your car would make if someone put a piece of paper between your wheel's spokes while rolling. I'll see if it's still there in the morning.
Anyways I drove it today after the oil change for about a mile and it seems there is like a tapping or knocking when the car is rolling. It's only when the engine is under load (not rolling in neutral at 30). It only does it at speeds like 15-30 (or at least that's where I can hear it).
I've always changed my oil and have never heard this. It almost feels drivetrain related. It might not have anything to do with the oil.
The engine seems to be revving smoothly, it's just this knock or clicking somewhere. Like a sound that your car would make if someone put a piece of paper between your wheel's spokes while rolling. I'll see if it's still there in the morning.
07-01-2002, 05:02 AM
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Re: Changed oil to Mobil1 15-50 & problems
Originally posted by BrianV
Due to Texas heat and my hard driving I decided to put in 15-50 due to my old mechanic's advice.
Anyways I drove it today after the oil change for about a mile and it seems there is like a tapping or knocking when the car is rolling. It's only when the engine is under load (not rolling in neutral at 30). It only does it at speeds like 15-30 (or at least that's where I can hear it).
I've always changed my oil and have never heard this. It almost feels drivetrain related. It might not have anything to do with the oil.
The engine seems to be revving smoothly, it's just this knock or clicking somewhere. Like a sound that your car would make if someone put a piece of paper between your wheel's spokes while rolling. I'll see if it's still there in the morning.
Due to Texas heat and my hard driving I decided to put in 15-50 due to my old mechanic's advice.
Anyways I drove it today after the oil change for about a mile and it seems there is like a tapping or knocking when the car is rolling. It's only when the engine is under load (not rolling in neutral at 30). It only does it at speeds like 15-30 (or at least that's where I can hear it).
I've always changed my oil and have never heard this. It almost feels drivetrain related. It might not have anything to do with the oil.
The engine seems to be revving smoothly, it's just this knock or clicking somewhere. Like a sound that your car would make if someone put a piece of paper between your wheel's spokes while rolling. I'll see if it's still there in the morning.
07-01-2002, 05:22 AM
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Re: Re: Changed oil to Mobil1 15-50 & problems
Originally posted by deezo
Dude, that's your oil pump working too hard. I had the same problem with my Toyota Pickup when I used thicker oil than I was supposed too. I went back to light weight oil and the noise went away.
Dude, that's your oil pump working too hard. I had the same problem with my Toyota Pickup when I used thicker oil than I was supposed too. I went back to light weight oil and the noise went away.
07-01-2002, 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by BrianV
Will I be ok using this for the next 2500 miles and then swapping it out?
Will I be ok using this for the next 2500 miles and then swapping it out?
07-01-2002, 05:35 AM
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Re: Changed oil to Mobil1 15-50 & problems
Brian, use 5w30 or 10w30. That is recommended for Texas HEAT!. Do not use anything other than what is recommended for the car from the manufacture. I suggest drain it again asap and fill it back up with the right stuff. Your mechanic I would not trust.
Originally posted by BrianV
Due to Texas heat and my hard driving I decided to put in 15-50 due to my old mechanic's advice.
Anyways I drove it today after the oil change for about a mile and it seems there is like a tapping or knocking when the car is rolling. It's only when the engine is under load (not rolling in neutral at 30). It only does it at speeds like 15-30 (or at least that's where I can hear it).
I've always changed my oil and have never heard this. It almost feels drivetrain related. It might not have anything to do with the oil.
The engine seems to be revving smoothly, it's just this knock or clicking somewhere. Like a sound that your car would make if someone put a piece of paper between your wheel's spokes while rolling. I'll see if it's still there in the morning.
Due to Texas heat and my hard driving I decided to put in 15-50 due to my old mechanic's advice.
Anyways I drove it today after the oil change for about a mile and it seems there is like a tapping or knocking when the car is rolling. It's only when the engine is under load (not rolling in neutral at 30). It only does it at speeds like 15-30 (or at least that's where I can hear it).
I've always changed my oil and have never heard this. It almost feels drivetrain related. It might not have anything to do with the oil.
The engine seems to be revving smoothly, it's just this knock or clicking somewhere. Like a sound that your car would make if someone put a piece of paper between your wheel's spokes while rolling. I'll see if it's still there in the morning.
07-01-2002, 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by BrianV
Will I be ok using this for the next 2500 miles and then swapping it out?
Will I be ok using this for the next 2500 miles and then swapping it out?
Your old mechanic is used to 5 and 6 quart oil capacity V8s with cooling systems from 12 to 16 quarts. It's a different era.
07-01-2002, 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
No, Unless you want to buy a new oil pump. That's probably the sound you are hearing is it working too hard. Personally I would never go over a 40 weight oil in the Max.....
Your old mechanic is used to 5 and 6 quart oil capacity V8s with cooling systems from 12 to 16 quarts. It's a different era.
No, Unless you want to buy a new oil pump. That's probably the sound you are hearing is it working too hard. Personally I would never go over a 40 weight oil in the Max.....
Your old mechanic is used to 5 and 6 quart oil capacity V8s with cooling systems from 12 to 16 quarts. It's a different era.
07-01-2002, 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Plus Brian is Supercharged too....hhehe that is even worse! That SC isn't getting oil well.
Plus Brian is Supercharged too....hhehe that is even worse! That SC isn't getting oil well.
Oooo.....forgot about the blower.
Brian,
Change your oil AND filter immediately.
07-01-2002, 07:32 AM
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I agree..
My Blackstone was done with 5w-30 in the summer with 114 temps. And really, its Syn.. its going to hang in there just fine. *maybe* I'd go 10W-30 if I was using dino just to make sure it keeps protecting my startup over the length of the drain interval.
07-01-2002, 08:05 AM
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Re: Changed oil to Mobil1 15-50 & problems
Originally posted by BrianV
Due to Texas heat and my hard driving I decided to put in 15-50 due to my old mechanic's advice.
Anyways I drove it today after the oil change for about a mile and it seems there is like a tapping or knocking when the car is rolling. It's only when the engine is under load (not rolling in neutral at 30). It only does it at speeds like 15-30 (or at least that's where I can hear it).
I've always changed my oil and have never heard this. It almost feels drivetrain related. It might not have anything to do with the oil.
The engine seems to be revving smoothly, it's just this knock or clicking somewhere. Like a sound that your car would make if someone put a piece of paper between your wheel's spokes while rolling. I'll see if it's still there in the morning.
Due to Texas heat and my hard driving I decided to put in 15-50 due to my old mechanic's advice.
Anyways I drove it today after the oil change for about a mile and it seems there is like a tapping or knocking when the car is rolling. It's only when the engine is under load (not rolling in neutral at 30). It only does it at speeds like 15-30 (or at least that's where I can hear it).
I've always changed my oil and have never heard this. It almost feels drivetrain related. It might not have anything to do with the oil.
The engine seems to be revving smoothly, it's just this knock or clicking somewhere. Like a sound that your car would make if someone put a piece of paper between your wheel's spokes while rolling. I'll see if it's still there in the morning.
The 15W-50 is really too thick for a VQ. Using an oil that is too thick, while increasing oil pressure (which is why you're pump is working too hard), also leads to an increase in oil temperature and a reduction in the flow rate of the oil. Since the oil moves slower, it stays in higher temperature areas longer, leading to an increased overall oil temp. as well. Needless to say, all of this is not good and is actually counterproductive. While it may seem that using a 15W-50 would be a good idea for that "extra" protection, you are actually creating more problems than you are avoiding them.
I know most people don't want to believe it, but 5W-30 (if it's a synthetic) is just fine, even under high heat conditions. There are a few of us now that have lab results to prove it. A 10W-30 is also just fine for your application.
07-01-2002, 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by iwannabmw
Brian,
The 15W-50 is really too thick for a VQ. Using an oil that is too thick, while increasing oil pressure (which is why you're pump is working too hard), also leads to an increase in oil temperature and a reduction in the flow rate of the oil. Since the oil moves slower, it stays in higher temperature areas longer, leading to an increased overall oil temp. as well. Needless to say, all of this is not good and is actually counterproductive. While it may seem that using a 15W-50 would be a good idea for that "extra" protection, you are actually creating more problems than you are avoiding them.
I know most people don't want to believe it, but 5W-30 (if it's a synthetic) is just fine, even under high heat conditions. There are a few of us now that have lab results to prove it. A 10W-30 is also just fine for your application.
Brian,
The 15W-50 is really too thick for a VQ. Using an oil that is too thick, while increasing oil pressure (which is why you're pump is working too hard), also leads to an increase in oil temperature and a reduction in the flow rate of the oil. Since the oil moves slower, it stays in higher temperature areas longer, leading to an increased overall oil temp. as well. Needless to say, all of this is not good and is actually counterproductive. While it may seem that using a 15W-50 would be a good idea for that "extra" protection, you are actually creating more problems than you are avoiding them.
I know most people don't want to believe it, but 5W-30 (if it's a synthetic) is just fine, even under high heat conditions. There are a few of us now that have lab results to prove it. A 10W-30 is also just fine for your application.
07-01-2002, 08:30 AM
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Re: Re: Changed oil to Mobil1 15-50 & problems
Originally posted by iwannabmw
Brian,
The 15W-50 is really too thick for a VQ.
I know most people don't want to believe it, but 5W-30 (if it's a synthetic) is just fine, even under high heat conditions. There are a few of us now that have lab results to prove it. A 10W-30 is also just fine for your application.
Brian,
The 15W-50 is really too thick for a VQ.
I know most people don't want to believe it, but 5W-30 (if it's a synthetic) is just fine, even under high heat conditions. There are a few of us now that have lab results to prove it. A 10W-30 is also just fine for your application.
I agree. 15w-50 is probably too thick for our close tolerance engines. Living in Louisiana (near Shreveport), I just changed to Mobil 1 SuperSyn 5w-30 (don't want to start a brand war here, just viscosity info). It may be psychological, but my car seems more free-revving than when I ran 10w-30 synthetics. I'll be getting an oil analysis after 3000 miles on it for info on my engine. Mobil 1 is only $17.88 for the 5 qt jug at my local Wal-Mart. OT, what do people think of WIX oil filters? My dealership suggested them if a Nissan filter was not available. He also said to definitely stay away from Fram because of the anti-drainback valve not holding the oil in the top of the engine. Any thoughts?
Dave
07-01-2002, 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by Turbo97GXE
i saw this thread at 6 in the morning.. and i was banging my head against the wall.. i was wondering if anyone was actually going to answer... this is a no brainer.. doh!!!!!!!!
i saw this thread at 6 in the morning.. and i was banging my head against the wall.. i was wondering if anyone was actually going to answer... this is a no brainer.. doh!!!!!!!!
07-01-2002, 08:53 AM
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Bill, do you have any idea about the K&N, part # HP-1010 ? It cost about $13 from Kragen and most retailers. Is it any better compared to those filters that you've mentioned ?
07-01-2002, 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by bsetiawan
Bill, do you have any idea about the K&N, part # HP-1010 ? It cost about $13 from Kragen and most retailers. Is it any better compared to those filters that you've mentioned ?
Bill, do you have any idea about the K&N, part # HP-1010 ? It cost about $13 from Kragen and most retailers. Is it any better compared to those filters that you've mentioned ?
There is only one test I'm aware of that involved K&N filters, and that was from Amsoil. It was a "middle of the pack" filter.....not worth $13 in my opinion.
I do think STP makes a good filter as well, but don't have the number available.
STPs and Boschs and Mobil 1 filters are all the exact same design, with the Mobil 1 having a different (better) synthetic filtering media.
The best oil filter report going is here:
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
07-01-2002, 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by Turbo97GXE
i did plugs / fuel fitler and oil last friday.. tried belts on saturday and ended up with same belts and lots of cuts and bruises
i did plugs / fuel fitler and oil last friday.. tried belts on saturday and ended up with same belts and lots of cuts and bruises
07-01-2002, 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
Dave,
You are required to e-mail me the results after your analysis so that you can participate.
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Dave,
You are required to e-mail me the results after your analysis so that you can participate.
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No problem. Be courageous and go 5k.
07-01-2002, 10:53 AM
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Question....are all these fancy filters really better than the Nissan OEM filter? In my opinion, the Nissan filter is great, and a bargain at $4-5 from the dealer.
Originally posted by bill99gxe
I'm unaware of K&N being anything special. For that price, I would go with a Mobil 1.
There is only one test I'm aware of that involved K&N filters, and that was from Amsoil. It was a "middle of the pack" filter.....not worth $13 in my opinion.
I do think STP makes a good filter as well, but don't have the number available.
STPs and Boschs and Mobil 1 filters are all the exact same design, with the Mobil 1 having a different (better) synthetic filtering media.
The best oil filter report going is here:
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
I'm unaware of K&N being anything special. For that price, I would go with a Mobil 1.
There is only one test I'm aware of that involved K&N filters, and that was from Amsoil. It was a "middle of the pack" filter.....not worth $13 in my opinion.
I do think STP makes a good filter as well, but don't have the number available.
STPs and Boschs and Mobil 1 filters are all the exact same design, with the Mobil 1 having a different (better) synthetic filtering media.
The best oil filter report going is here:
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
07-01-2002, 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Eric L.
Question....are all these fancy filters really better than the Nissan OEM filter? In my opinion, the Nissan filter is great, and a bargain at $4-5 from the dealer.
Question....are all these fancy filters really better than the Nissan OEM filter? In my opinion, the Nissan filter is great, and a bargain at $4-5 from the dealer.
07-01-2002, 11:52 AM
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http://www.motorvate.ca/auto/maxima/...oil_filter.htm
This site actually disects a Nissan oil filter and compares it to another brand name filter.
This site actually disects a Nissan oil filter and compares it to another brand name filter.
07-01-2002, 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Turbo97GXE
i got in there fine.. it was that same prob you had.. the corroison problem.. eff'ing tension nut won't move
i got in there fine.. it was that same prob you had.. the corroison problem.. eff'ing tension nut won't move
You need some Aero-Kroil penetrating oil. Screw the Liquid Wrench stuff.
07-01-2002, 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by Mustang1999
Oh, just buy a Fram and get it over with....
Oh, just buy a Fram and get it over with....
Yet ANOTHER useless statement from you. 
07-01-2002, 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Turbo97GXE
then point me ow wise one
then point me ow wise one
Here's what I can tell you about it:
Product: Aero-Kroil
Made by: Kano Laboratories
Phone Number: (615) 833-4101
Do they take orders? Don't know; haven't bothered calling yet.
That place looks to be about 20 minutes away from me.
Daniel B. has mentioned "Kroil" here a couple of times, but didn't ever allude to where he got it or could get it. From what Matt told me, he got his through his dad's business contacts.
The 3rd gen (real forum) guys have this link where some have ordered it:
http://www.mcfarlane-aviation.com/aeroKroil.htm
It's a bit expensive....I wanna say $10 or $12 a can. If you take the initiative and call the manufacturer here in TN and they sell it direct, let me know. If it's prohibitive for them to ship it, I'll run by there and pick up a couple of cans and send one to ya....
07-01-2002, 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by Turbo97GXE
why are yo uon a maxima site if you have a mustang?
why are yo uon a maxima site if you have a mustang?
Especially when SHE really has an RSX-S
07-01-2002, 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
If it's prohibitive for them to ship it, I'll run by there and pick up a couple of cans and send one to ya....
If it's prohibitive for them to ship it, I'll run by there and pick up a couple of cans and send one to ya....
cool.. i will call on my day off.. this wensday
Originally posted by bill99gxe
Especially when SHE really has an RSX-S :confused=:
Especially when SHE really has an RSX-S :confused=:
07-01-2002, 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by Turbo97GXE
why are yo uon a maxima site if you have a mustang?
why are yo uon a maxima site if you have a mustang?
Would you like to throw down??? 
07-01-2002, 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by Turbo97GXE
cool.. i will call on my day off.. this wensday
cool.. i will call on my day off.. this wensday
thats a girl?
Yep.....
07-01-2002, 12:17 PM
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since i didn't know you were a female.. i appologize.. being the ladies man i am.. i am always nice to the ladies
Originally posted by Mustang1999
Hey gomer, I don't have a Mustang.. Would you like to throw down??? :-D
Hey gomer, I don't have a Mustang..
Would you like to throw down??? :-D
07-01-2002, 12:40 PM
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Ok well is it really really really necessary to change it immediately. That's $25 of brand new oil. Can it wait until this weekend?
Also, this morning I drove it on the interstate and it seemed smooth and wasn't making the sounds.
Also, this morning I drove it on the interstate and it seemed smooth and wasn't making the sounds.