Can someone call them and get an email address for me? I tried info@precisionbrakescompany.com but it came back undeliverable. I'm in the Air Force and in Afghanistan and unable to call. I just want to make sure they got all my info for the order since my credit card has yet to be charged. Thanks guys. Can't wait for the pics.

 

jonas@precisionbrakescompany.com

 

So, I tried to install my kit yesterday afternoon early and ran into one major snag...the aluminum hat supplied with the kit is not the right depth. Thank God I had not disconnected the brake fluid lines, otherwise it would have been a long evening, this was all during what I call 'dry-fititng'.

The hat I received has a .810 offset, with that offset and the 1.25" thick rotors, there is interference between the rotor and the lower A arm -also called the transverse link- right at its very end, where the ball joint is. If you ordered that combination as well, and has already been shipped with the .810 hat, you will have problems as well.

All this was troubleshot with the Precision Brakes chief engineer on the phone with me, I called them as soon as I saw the problem. As it turns out, they fit the kit on a bare spindle...of course, a bare spindle does not have the lower A-arm attached to it so....they had no way of finding that interference until the first real 'customer car' install -which was me.

The solution is new hat with 3mm less offset. Along with new aluminum spacers (to keep the calipoer centered over the rotor) this will still require about 2mm to be ground off the tip of the lower A-arm as any less 'hat offset' would put the caliper at risk of hitting the wheel. As it is, with the new hat I expect I will have only about 3mm clearance between the caliper and the wheel so...it's a tight fit -again, caused by the 1.25" rotor and the large Superlite calipers.

If you have not yet taken delivery of the kit and u want the Superlite calipers, you might want to consider dropping the rotor width to the next smallest size (22mm, or .81 inches) instead of my huge 1.25" width rotor....this might eliminate the problem of interference, allow the use of the .810 hat and thereby expand the clearance between the wheel and the caliper -something to consider if you want to change wheels in the future as this will give u some more wheel options before u run into interference problems

The Precision Brakes guys were great....very apologetic and like I said, spent nearly 45 minutes with me on the phone as I dry fitted, measured, etc. They'll be cutting the new hats Monday & will ship all the bits and pieces Tuesday so the installation will be next week, I hope.

Any questions, just post here of the Gen5 forum where I'm posting this as well, I'll get to them tonight

 

so i'm guessing i should call them since i got the 1.25" thick rotors also. they arrived yesterday. did your kit come with the bolts to mount the hats to the rotors?

 

so. To know if you have a problem, check out the hat...place it upside down on a table and measure the height of the hat...if it's a wee bit more than three quarters of an inch, you have the .810 hat, you will indeed have problems...

 

it's about 1" high actually

 

go to the underside of the hat thickness. the 1" distance you're measuring is also taking into account the thickness of the hat's mounting surface.

 

yeah, i measured the height of the whole thing.

 

is the advantage of having a bigger brake kit like this worth the price as opposed to just upgrading to rotors of the same size as stock and better pads? im jus curious i don't know much about brakes, i thought maybe bigger ones would be more for show.

 

on a table and the rotor on top of the hat as if were installed for real, all lined up on the tabs and all that; now you can measure from lower edge of the rotor to the surface of the table...if it measures over .75 of an inch you have the .810 hat, you will have inteference with the lower A-arm.

Call PB, ask for Jonas, tell him you have the same brake kit that I have & with the same problem and have him patch connect u with the same engineer who talked to me Friday afternoon. Use my full name (Jose Galindez) instead of Galo, they dont know me by my nickname...good luck

 

When I originally ordered my kit, I requested the thinner rotors. PB called me recently and told me it would be another 4-6 weeks if I wanted to stick with that option. I was a little disappointed that it took them 3 weeks to tell me this fact but agreed to change the order to the thicker rotor. This is just a headsup to those of you thinking of taking the advice of switching to the thinner rotor, that it may take a while to get your kit. PB seem to be good people, but you really need to speak the right people.

 

My kit came yesterday. i ordered the one piece slotted silver zinc wash rotors, and man they are huge, 1.2" wide. 12.75 in diameter exactly. The superlite calipers are also massive. they measure about 9" in length. i'll post a pic later today. This set up is for racing, and they are definatly an extreme show stopper. i did expect wilwood lettering to be white, but they are not painted.
as far as fittment, i'll have my kit installed today or tomorrow and i will let you know if there were any fitment issues.

 

click page 4 for a few pics with my cheap digi camera.
http://www.cardomain.com/id/delos

 

i hear big break kits squeal alot...is this true? do you guys hear any noise with your big brake kits?

 

it's coming off pronto -cause I hate that...

Sriously, much of that depends on the pad compound as well...I ordered mine with extremely soft 'street' compounds so we'll see -hopefully I can install this weekend...

 

did they send you the right hats yet?

 

 

Well, i had my big brakes installed today. And guess what, they fit perfectly. no problems at all. They work perfectly and they do not make any noise at all.
My kit consist of 13" one piece slotted silver zinc washed rotors. with wilwood 4 piston superlites, with the "D" pads. i took a couple pics with my cheesy digi camera, so they give them no real justice. but its something to look at anyway. click on page 4 on my cardomain site, below.

 

Well, this afternoon I got home and saw a brand new box from Precision Brakes...open it up and there are two new aluminum hats with 3mm less offset but no new spacers that are 3mm narrower and I say 'uh-oh....'

Sure enough, no can do. These spacers fit between the caliper and the caliper mounting bracket and because the new hats move the rotor 3mm out, I should have been sent new spacers that locate the caliper 3mm farther outboard as well. No new spacers sent and the result is that the calipers are so far in versus the rotor that I cant slip the pads into the caliper on the outboard side of the rotor.

Less patient email than last time's already sent to Precision Brakes.
Oh, well, that's what I get for being a Beta site.

 

Well I opened my kit today. Looks nice! Too bad the rotors they sent me are one piece instead of the two piece that I had asked for and paid for, so those will be going right back!

I was wondering if they came with instructions? I can probably figure it out since it doesn't look that complicated, but instructions would help.

PB said they would ship me a template to see if the brakes would fit beneath my stock 17" 2002 wheels but I never got it. Just looking at the size of the calipers, I would say I doubt it but maybe with spacers. Does anyone happen to know? In any case it's not a big deal cos I am looking for lighter wheels anyway, just so I can get on the road first.

Hope I have better luck with the two piece than you've had!

 

are bigger rotors really more advantageous than just upgrading to a different (but still stock size) rotor and pads? or are they mostly for show?

 

what one would call silly mistakes but at least what I've found thus far is that they fix them -it's the aggravation factor that's building up.

Hey, I have soft copy instructions I will be emailing you. They're not the best but will at least show u how things fit together, some torque values, etc

I still salivate over and am in awe of your ride!

 

Thanks for the compliement. Also thanks for offering to email instructions. I look forward to seeing them. Hope you get your stuff fixed soon! Then after that I think you need a turbo

 

brake write-up

That link should give you idea of the install as well. Its Chungers write-up for the fastbrakes kit.

 

has everyone received their kits and install it yet?

 

Nope... but I am special cause of the 14" rotors.

 

wow, they will look awesome. did you get the 6 piston caliper or did you settle for 4.

 

I was going to get the 6, but I don't think our master cylinder can put out enough pressure. So 4 it was.

 

i cant wait to see them.

 

I'm still waiting on mine. It took longer because the superlites are harder to powdercoat. Can't wait to get them on there. How's it feel with them installed Delos?

 

robocop, they are gonna look sweet powder coated. I didnt get that option, but i should have. I'll have to settle for spray paint, blah.

 

nice work. What color? Dont know if I wrote about this but with all my ^^%$@##@ downtime, I had my rotors yellow cad plated....they look awesome. Of course, the plating on the friction surface will go away at the first brake application -but the rest of the rotors will continue to show that golden patina.....yummy!

 

I had them done in brembo red. I'll have to get some pics up when they're installed. They're going behind hyperblack wheels on a black car so the red should stand out. That yellow cad plating sounds cool, any word on when you should have all the right stuff to install the kit?

 

yet but I'm not expecting one until later today..they definitely dont work over the weekend.....trust me, I know!

This should be a simple one...those spacers are easy to machine; should be a no-brainer for this week.

Nice work on the red calipers, they will definitely look awesome!

 

fyi- make sure you guys folow break-in procedures, for your brake kit. if you didn't get instructions, call up precision and get the 411.(info)

 

Hi all

Well I was wondering if I could ask what wheels people have? Looks like I have to get some new rims. The clearance required from the front face of the hat to the edge of the caliper is about 1.4". Stock 2002 rims have only about 0.8". So before I go and buy, I would like to know what some of you guys have that I know will fit. Not sure if that data is available on individual websites for wheels.

Thanks!

 

After all the dry-fitting I had done in my two previous tries, I was kinda getting pretty good at it....got home last night at 5:30 and was done by 8, bleeding and everything. Looks flat-out awesome...pics will follow late this weekend after a get a camera from a friend. I cut the tolerances purrty damn close...I've about 1mm between the caliper and the spokes of my SSRs. But, that's all you need, eh?

Only problem is that the cad plate did not come off the rotors clean....it's balled up in some areas causing a bit of roughness, I'll wet sand the rotors tonight & get that cleaned up & it will be fine.

No squeals, nothing untowards. I swear the car rides better, too. Some of it may be optimism but..with 8 lbs of unsprung weight removed PER WHEEL, I'm sure some of it is real.

It was well worth it, guys....definitely cool beans

 

Sup Fellas,

I got my kit yesterday... didnt try to install it yet but...I thought PB gave us the option of having different color calipers? I thought I asked for the silver looking ones?!? Just wondering if they did offer different colors, what colors did some of you guys get? Mine as a matter of fact, are the plain dark blue/grayish ones and the word "WILWOOD" isnt even colored in so you can barely tell the brand name is there unless I were to paint it in?

Deac

 

Sup Deac

Have you installed them yet? I am still waiting on mine. For some reason PB's not answering emails. I'll have to call them I guess.

 

I'm still waiting on my kit as well. I called them last monday and they said they're still putting it together. I'm going to try them again tomorrow, hopefully they're done soon.