Hello,

I was wondering if there'd be any interest in a GD on our FX2 Big Brake kits for 95-02s? There's a 12" rotor kit for $725 and a 13" rotor kit for $795. Each kit has our Force 10 SuperTwin 2-piston aluminum calipers (available with optional powder coating for $100), pads, brackets, braided stainless lines, hardware and the rotors are Turbo slotted and Xtra Life plated. The 12" kit requires 17" or larger wheels; the 13" kit requires 18" or larger wheels.

I'm sure we could get a discount rate if there's enough interest. I just want to see if there is any interest.

You can go to our website and do a product search in the upper right corner to see what they look like.

If there's interest, I'll go through the proper channels and set up an account and everything (if that's required).

 

Here's what the brakes typically look like installed. Thought this would help.

 

Perhaps, it would help to post a MINIMUM Group Deal Quantity and also the discount. 5 is manageable.

It also help if you could VERIFY and ASSURE people with OEM 17" rims that the 12" caliper kit will fit. I'm sure the 2 Piston Calipers have better spoke clearance than the 4 pot kits out there allowing better chances of OEM rim fitting.

I'd get them if I didn't have my FastBrakes Wilwood setup......

 

Also note that those wheels have ALOT of clearance for caliper width. People must know that wheel DIA. is NOT the only consideration

 

Here's what I can do:

We have four FX2 kits for the Maxima (one 12" rotor kit for 1995-99 (kit A168-3) and one for 2000-02 (A168-6), one 13" rotor kit for 1995-99 (A168-4) and one for 2000-02 (A168-7)). If we get a total of 5 orders among these 4 kits, I'll take 10% off. If we get more orders than that, I'd have to check with the sales manager about a better deal.

As for wheel clearance, due to the wide assortment of wheels out there, there's no way I can absolutely guarantee fitment. And besides the wheel diameter, clearance also depends on the curvature of the spokes. Some spokes dive in on a sharp curve from the center of the wheel, while others are more flat. It's conceivable you could have a 19" wheel with spokes that sharply curve in that it wouldn't fit. And that's a problem that all brakes would face. But I can say the 12" rotor kit should fit 98% of 17" wheels out there. And if it didn't, you could return it.

I hope this helps and not discourages anyone!

 

Ok, I'm in for the 13" kit for the 2000... come on everyone!! uh... how much is shipping?

Question: the stock calipers on the 2K Max are a Single Floating Caliper type, right? Is the A168-7 kit a Fixed Caliper?

Is there any payment option other than 100% upfront? Like 50/50 or Financing? (Just askin' for all those Ballers on a Budget out there... uh, I'm not one of them though, honest ;-) )

 

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what id like to see the most is a bigger rear brake kit to compliment people that have big brakes up front...ive been researching this project for over a year and still workin on it.

 

Just a couple general questions, Brake pads, what fits? How much? How much is shipping? Also, do the calipers need to be re-built? =) this seems like a nice setup.

 

Is it just me , or does it look like a small kit ?

 

The kits weight about 70lb when boxed up for shipping. We ship UPS ground, and just shipped one to California and total shipping was $39.00 (it would be $22 to Florida, $27 to Colorado just to give you an idea of other regions).

Brake pads: you can get replacement ones at any parts store (NAPA, Pep Boys, Autozone, etc.) as the pads have an FMSI number of D-52. The pads we include in the kit are high performance street pads.

Caliper: they are a 2 piston floating design (both pistons are on the inboard side of the rotor). But they are better than a single piston floater because the 2 pistons provide more consistent pressure on the brake pad, which reduces pad deflection, thus increasing clamping pressure on the rotor and reducing braking distance. The calipers are all brand new and made from aircraft quality aluminum, meaning they're lightweight (as much as half the weight as stock cast iron). This will also help improve braking. They have stainless steel internals and are completely DOT street legal with dust boots. And they can be powder coated a variety of colors, which makes them look real nice behind large open spoke wheels.

Payment in full is required up front. We take all major credit cards. There is no tax unless you are in New York State.

These will provide more than enough braking power to stop your car. And they look a lot better than rusty cast iron calipers and rotors!

Let me know of any other questions.

 

you come up with that and you'll make some money

 

Come on you guys!!

I don't know about all of you think, but I think this is a great deal!

I'd much rather have lightweight aluminum 2 piston calipers than the stock single piston, iron ones!

And oh, they look great! Ok, they're not the Brembo big brake kit, but then again, they cost about 1/3 as much...

Mark, if this GD doesn't make it through, I'm still in...

 

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I'd be interested if the discount goes through as advertised...I'm a bit concerned about losing front to rear bias but maybe some high friction rear pads can be used to normalize the balance...I have 18" wheels so either 12 or 13" kit is cool with me...

 

If we can get the 5 orders, then we'll give 10% off as advertised.

These are great kits - and no where near the cost of Brembo. We've been in business since the mid 1970s, so we know what we're doing. Be careful of cross drilled rotors - they are very prone to cracking. The drilling produces stress cracks that can result in rotor failure over time. That's why we only slot ours.

I could see about getting slotted and plated rotors for the rear to match the front. The rear rotors would be stock size. We could also include some better performance pads for the rear too. I'll have to see about the cost of this and post back.

 

We could offer stock size rear rotors with Turbo slotting and plating and performance pads for about $225. This would give you rear rotors to match the look of the front ones in our kit.

This is a great deal! Complete front kit with 2 piston aluminum calipers, pads, 12" or 13" slotted/plated rotors, braided stainless lines AND rear slotted/plated rotors to match the front all for just $970 - $1,030 (depending on which front kit you choose, shipping extra).

 

no no...we need Bigger rear brakes, i have thoes tantrum wheels in that picture you posted, unfortuately our rear brakes look like they dont exist. But people might be interested in the rear brake if your serious about producing them. IF you want post another Group Deal post about Rear Disc brake replacement.

 

Yeah, I found this thread while searcing for a big REAR kit. If your making a good front kit, it seems like with a little time you could come up with a matching rear.

As has already been said, you would make money

 

looks like everyone's already got a good front brake setup, since there's so little interest in the fronts....

 

Mark,

What color are the calipers in their 'anodized' state? Also, can you verify that the front/rear braking bias is retained? I can't see that it would change since we wouldn't be changing any type of valving... Thanks. Oh yeah, one more thing... the price you listed above, for the fronts with rear rotors/pads... is this before or after the discount?

 

Here's a photo showing the calipers with the clear anodized finish they come standard with.



As for brake bias, there would be a change since our 2 piston calipers provide more clamping power than the stock single piston. With your stock set up, say your braking is 60% front / 40% rear; with ours, it will be more like 70% front / 30% rear.

Those prices for the front kit with rear rotors/pads includes the 10% discount.

 

mark... what are the chances of coming up with an upgraded (bigger) kit for the rear?

 

To be honest, I don't see a bigger rear kit being developed. There is a lot scheduled in our R&D department as is and I don't really know how they prioritize projects. The only thing that could help me convince them to make a kit would be about 20+ names of ready and willing buyers. AND knowing exactly what you wanted (what size rotor or what size wheel the kit has to fit in). Even then it would take a while before the kit was ready. What price range would this kit need to fall into to be reasonable?

 

to be honest, if someone were to develop a rear kit they would make a TON of money, mainly due to customer's LOYALTY. Get this, example: theres no way in hell im gonna have a Willwood big brake kit up front with your kit at the back. I doubt people are gonna want to mix and match thier caliper brands and rotor looks. Its just not cool. Whoever makes a REAR Kit will have more buyers for their front setup. As for the acutal setup, I imagine it must fit behind 17" wheel, rotor size about 10-11", Twin piston caliper. Seems like a good all around combination.

 

I don't think there is anyway a stock brake system even approaches 60/40. Most cars are probably 70/30 or even 75/25 stock.

 

To be DOT street legal, you need a parking brake in the rear, which our 2 piston caliper does not have. We use a single piston caliper with a built in parking brake for our rear kits. But it would not look identical to the front caliper (you could have it powder coated the same color as the front). The rotors could be slotted/plated to match the front too. We usually can fit a 12" rotor with this caliper in a 16" wheel. What price range are we talking here?

 

hey mark,

would you suggest getting a proportioning valve with the kit then?

 

No, you would not need a proportioning valve because:

1) I assume the car has ABS and you can't use a prop valve with ABS
2) the ABS will take over and prevent your brakes from locking up
3) if it doesn't have ABS, the prop valve still wouldn't help because it only decreases the amount of fluid going to the rear brakes, it will not increase it
4) if you wanted to improve the rear brakes bite, then the rear rotors and pads I'm offering would help as these rear pads would have more bite than stock pads would

I hope this helps.

And to those wondering about our 2 piston caliper vs. larger 4 piston calipers: a 4 piston caliper is a lot more than is needed for virtually any car. 4 pistons are made more for heavy trucks/suvs, but some people want them on their cars and that's why they're available (we offer 4 piston kits). But the 2 piston kit is perfect for cars - not too much, not too little. And it looks good IMHO.

 

I agree that if your company can offer a front and rear kit with a similar look it would be a successful line. They don't have to be identical. The look of your front calipers is quite unique. The rears would just have to be styled/designed similarly to keep the brand unified and recognizeable.

I think that if you can do that you wouldn't have any problem pushing complete 4 wheel set ups in the $1700+ range. If Brembo (or another reputable brand) had a four wheel setup commercially available, that I could find info on, that has been tested properly, I would buy it pretty much regardless of price.

Put me down for what ever you guys can come up with

P.S. If you guys need to farm out some R&D my company can help you out. We have full CAD (CAM,Solidworks,Think3...), CNC capability, rapid prototyping (SLA), international sourcing/manufacturing, and the list goes on...

 

For the rears... all that's really needed is 12" X 0.35" one piece rotor and a bracket to relocate the factory caliper (solves parking brake issue). Cost would/should be reasonable, maybe $350?. I would be 1st in line unless I crash me car between now and then [knock on wood]

My suggestion for OEM wheel fitmet has really gone unanswered... Since you guys developed the kit, you should know if they fit the factory OEM wheels... That is one of the biggest issues with people who want BB kits. I would imagine the 2 pot calipers having alot of clearance (unless the brackets are unusually thick) vs. other kits. Your prices are reasonable and your company has been around quite a while (Domestic market mostly).

Don't ge me wrong, we really appreciate the availability/research of your kit. Not too long ago, we really didn't have many choices on BB kits.

 

Ok guys,

So far it looks like there's only 1 person in on the deal for the fronts... Me!

This is a group deal for the FRONT KITS and if you want, the REAR ROTORS and PADS... this isn't a discussion thread for talking about a REAR KIT.

If anyone's interested in a FRONT BB KIT say so, if not, SSBC has a contact email you can go through to put in your $0.02 about the rears...

Mark,
I'm still in!

 

Keep on Bumpin!

 

I'm in...assuming we get the discount...

 

For some reason my search function isn't working...

So, how would say that this kit compares to the similarly prices Wilwood setup?

I thing the color options, and the unique caliper look make the 2 piston SSBC kit more attractive.

So provided the performance level is the same or better, I'm in on the GD too.

 

Hey Mark,

Looks like we've finally got some interest!!

So far, I guess it looks like this:

HNDA ETR (Me ) - 13" Kit for 2000 Maxima - A168-7 PLUS Rear Rotors/Pads.

srbarnes4ever - Unknown

tI30t - Unknown - TENTATIVE?

Hey guys, which kits are you looking for? There's three kits remaining:
12" for a 2K-2K2 - A168-6
13" for a 95-99 - A168-4
12" for a 95-99 - A168-3

Jump in y'all!

 

tI30t,

If you're looking at the 4 piston Wilwood setup, then I'd say that that kit is probably Over-Kill for a street car.

I look at it this way:

My factory brakes are sufficient for everyday driving.

Upgrading to SSBC's SINGLE piston caliper would probably be a BIG jump in performance over stock.

Upgrading to double piston calipers + slotted rotors + Stainless Steel brake line + hi-po pads has got to be a HUGE performance enhancement!

Now, to be honest, if I was racing hard-core or dragging or drifting, I'd probably look into the 4 piston kit - from SSBC of course, their prices can't be beat!

But for everyday street driving, and the occasional HNDA ETR(ing), I know that this is a great deal!

 

I'm down for the 12" 2k1 kit with 2 piston calipers. Not sure I'd pay $350 for a rear kit unless its oversized. There's a group deal going on Brembo stock sized rotors now that I'd jump on for $100 for the rear pair. Definitely I'd like the 12" kit for up front...I might consider the 13" if he had a set AND I was positive they'd fit inside my 18 X 8 Mille Miglias...

 

srbarnes4ever,

remember, your rear brakes only put a fraction of the effort into braking that your fronts do... not sure on the bias, some say 60-40, 70-30, etc...

You really don't NEED a big rear kit... unless it's for looks of course...

And having slotted rotors in the back is gonna look way sweet already!

 

I follow your logic, but my thoughts revolve around keeping the balance even front to rear with the stock balance. Once you go oversized on the front, the bias is pushed frontwards and you aren't getting the even brake distribution designed into the car (and ABS). I'm no expert but I've read on several sites (most recently the StopTech site) that keeping bias even (or very close) to stock eliminates any ABS related issues when switching from stock sized brakes. Long story short, I just want the rears to keep doing the same fraction of braking that the system is designed for, not an even smaller fraction. Let me know your thoughts on this though.