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Old May 4, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Old May 6, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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Due to the downtime on the forums recently, I'm going to extend the group deal pricing until the end of the weekend- May 9.

That may allow a few of you that don't log on much another chance to get in on this deal. If the order isn't in by midnight Sunday night, then the price goes to the regular $125 + shipping.
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Sent you paypal. Had some questions in the paypal comments, could you PM / e-mail me a response?

And I didn't see it mentioned, but should we need to get an alignment after putting this on?
Old May 7, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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Matt

Sent you paypal. Had some questions in the paypal comments, could you PM / e-mail me a response?

And I didn't see it mentioned, but should we need to get an alignment after putting this on?

Depending on what you Autos have to do in order to get it on, you might. (i.e. you might have to loosen the control arm on the driver's side to get it on there.) the auto tranny is pretty big and gets in the way of just sliding it on.

the 5 spd guys shouldn't have any troubles. it's a 10-15 min install for them.. just be sure not to snug up the front nuts until you drop the car to the ground..

As for the rest of the paypal Qs, I responded to it via email a few minutes ago.
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Just checking on em, shipped any out yet? I didn't see anywhere on what type of shipping we got with this, just anxious to get it on
Old May 7, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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Usually I ship UPS ground, unless it's specified otherwise.
I haven't shipped any yet- the first 15 are in the works now and I will hopefully have them finished up by tomorrow afternoon and be shipping early next week.
Old May 8, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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Just 24 hours left for the intro pricing! Get in before the prices go up!
Old May 8, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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money sent!!! Thanks Matt

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Old May 9, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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Old May 9, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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big concern of mine.. what kind of material is used to build this thing.. meaning what kind of metal?
Old May 9, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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0.120 wall steel tubing. tough stuff. Same tubing that's used on many of the aftermarket parts similar to these for other cars.
Old May 9, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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Edited. Got my answer after reading the thread.

BTW, put me down for one... I am modding handling parts... Thanks for offering this! Look forward to more of your products!
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Hey Matt, just sent you the money via Paypal.

Thank you.

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Matt: Payment Sent.

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Old May 10, 2004 | 05:27 AM
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Woohoo!
Speedcrazie, you're the last to get into the GD!


To Everyone I'm working on the 4th gen bars first, as I had the largest number of them ordered, and they were ordered fisrt. I've got parts for the first 10 cut up and 7 of those are welded together right now. I should have at least the 4th gens shipped by the end of the week, and I'll get to work on the 5th gens as soon as I get the 4th gens out of here.
Old May 10, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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Install is very easy.. you'll need a 19,22,24 (don't remember which one), and a 27mm socket.
So are you including hardware (like in the brake kit) or do we use the bolts that are already there....

damn it was hard to find a 22mm socket for the brake kit!
Old May 11, 2004 | 04:29 AM
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You can buy individual large sockets (22, 24, 27, bigger) at Sears for a few bucks. If you have bolts that big on your car, it's not a waste of money since you'll probably need to use the socket again in the future.
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You just re-use the factory bolts. there are washers that you remove in all of these locations anyway, so the bolts are still the perfect length.


Update on progress....
I've got about 8 of the 4th gen bars welded up, but I can't do squat right now because of the weather.



I'd rather not kill myself welding in the rain (must have doors open to evacuate smoke from the welder) , and I can't paint due to high humidity, nor box & ship because I have to have the garage open to pack the parts!

Sooo, as soon as mother nature cooperates a little more with me, I'll get these things shipped out!
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Thanks for the update, Matt. Hope the rain stops soon.
Old May 11, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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If it doesn't stop soon, I'll be welding myself an Ark!
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Matt,

When you said that it would be more difficult for the auto guys to get the bar on due to the tranny...it doesn't mean that the tranny is going to rub against the bar is it? Thanks and let me know.
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No, it won't rub, it just makes the install more fun due to clearance issues. there's not enough room between the tranny and the control arm bolt to stick a socket on there and tighten it using normal tools-- unless you move the control arm or the tranny.
not a big deal, but it does make the install more fun. still very much worth the work though.
Old May 13, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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Matt,

I looked under the car today. I was wondering which part of the bar is the lowest after you install the bar? Is it lowest where the bar hooks up to the control arm or the further down the car? Does your answer apply to both the 4th and 5th gen as I will be doing the install on both cars.

My next set of questions deal with the transmission. I will be doing installs for both the 4th and 5th with automatics. I looked at the space between the control arm bolt and the transmission. It will be impossible to get a socket in there. Will it be possible to place a 2"X4" block of wood under the tranny while it's jacked up and then lowering the car so that the tranny is pushed up by the 2X4? I wanted to do this to try to get a socket there. Will I need to loosen one of the engine mounts in the process?

Thank you for your time Matt.

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Old May 14, 2004 | 05:47 AM
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on the 3-4 gens, the lowest part of the bar is the one that goes across the front of it. It has to clear the engine crossmember and exhaust, which are the lowest-hanging parts on the front of the car.

on a 5th gen, the lowest part is the rear bar that ties the frame together. on a 5th gen with Eibachs, there was still about 3.5" of ground clearance at the lowest point.
http://mattblehm.com/HSS_images/lowe...r/5th_Gen_LTB/




From scanning over the FSM, it looks like you can remove the left side tranny mount and jack the tranny up so it will fit.

BUT, it looks like it would be easier to remove the bolts on the control arm "link bushing pin" (the large bolt that goes through the front control arm bushing). remove the bolts on it, and it should drop down from the frame and you can go from there.
of course, tightening that side back to spec will be fun since you can't get it lined up properly unless it's bolted on the car- so be careful with it. may be better to jack up the transmission for it.
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Is it too late to get in on this deal?
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Yet another reason I'm glad I waited for months to find a good 5-speed Max....

Good luck with the install, automatics. Probably it's easier than it sounds.
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thanks for the reply Matt. Sounds like it's possible. What's the expected arrival time if I ordered both a 4th and 5th gen bar? Thanks again.
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The weather hasn't been cooperating much here, so I've gotten a bit behind on them. The paint is drying on the first 10 right now, and I'll be shipping them out at the beginning of next week. I should be shipping the rest of the 4th gens by the end of this week and then I'll start on the 5 gens. all depends on how the weather cooperates right now..
I can't weld, box, or paint when it's raining, and it's rained 5 out of the last 7 days!
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JeEvE, the intro pricing ended a week ago. If you can get another group of 10 people together, I'll offer the same pricing again. I know there are at least 3 or 4 that are interested..
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Thank you for the update Matt.
Old May 19, 2004 | 08:17 AM
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New update.....

Rain has NOT been cooperating with me! It has rained just about every day for the last two weeks- at least enough to kill a few hours in the shop every day.

All but one of the 4th gen bars are done, and I'm working on it. I've also started on the 5th gens, and they should be welded by the end of the week.

now for the fun part.. I just fooking sprained my ankle while I was out there working! I'm going to be down for the rest of the day today and probably tomorrow.

I'm gonna go eat a bottle of tylenol for lunch and see if I can walk again in a bit. Sorry about all the delays guys. I know how it is to have to wait on stuff you've already paid for!
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Is it too late to get in on this deal?

you can count me in for another GD.
Old May 19, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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I'm in for a 4gen Stage 2 ... local pickup if possible

Matt, you mentioned powder coating as a finish possibility. Have you tried Allied Powder Coating. Hear about them on the radio alot.. they do typical stuff.. lawn furniture, bbq's, stage 1&2 control arm bars, etc

6010 Saint Augustine St , PO Box 272641
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JeEvE, the intro pricing ended a week ago. If you can get another group of 10 people together, I'll offer the same pricing again. I know there are at least 3 or 4 that are interested..
Old May 19, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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count me in for the next GD, and ofcourse a grounding kit
Old May 19, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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Volk, thanks for the contact on the powder.. looks like if I just choose one color that it won't be bac.. he quoted me 10-15 each for powder on them if I do a standard color (white, black, grey), a little more if I do special stuff, BUT that's in large quantities..

I may just offer them in black by default and if you want something else then you can pay the extras...

I've also got some numbers together on Stainless Steel.. the cost will be an additional $50 each and I can do them in stainless...
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I've also got some numbers together on Stainless Steel.. the cost will be an additional $50 each and I can do them in stainless...
Any weight difference with the SS by chance?
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the SS is about the same weight within 1%, IIRC... the total weight on this thing is like 8-10 lb, so it's a no-brainer. if you're worried about weight enough that a 1/2 lb will matter, I suggest you eat a salad instead of a cheeseburger next time you go to Wendy's.
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
the SS is about the same weight within 1%, IIRC... the total weight on this thing is like 8-10 lb, so it's a no-brainer. if you're worried about weight enough that a 1/2 lb will matter, I suggest you eat a salad instead of a cheeseburger next time you go to Wendy's.
Haha....no, I was just curious and I though I would ask.
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Hey Matt, as you know I already send you my payment last week, but can I change for Stainless Steel, since I live in Canada SS would be defenitely better for me unless the bar are Powder coated. Let me know how much longer it will take to make SS Tie Bar, I will send you the 50$ as soon as you confirm.

Thank you we appreciate your hard work.

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Hey Matt,

What grade of steel/ss are you using? Which one is stronger?



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