Ksport Big Brake Kit Sale!
07-31-2006, 08:35 PM
#59
PM please for '95 non-ABS 13" & 14" rotors
For reference (taken from Ksportusa.com website):
Model Year Part # MSRP (USD) Rotor Diameter Pistons Pads Caliper Color
Maxima 95-99 KSP-BKNS040-8331S-O $2,650.00 330mm 8 SC5 Street Orange
(Cefiro A32)
Maxima 00-03 KSP-BKNS050-8331S-O $2,650.00 330mm 8 SC5 Street Orange
(Cefiro A33)
For reference (taken from Ksportusa.com website):
Model Year Part # MSRP (USD) Rotor Diameter Pistons Pads Caliper Color
Maxima 95-99 KSP-BKNS040-8331S-O $2,650.00 330mm 8 SC5 Street Orange
(Cefiro A32)
Maxima 00-03 KSP-BKNS050-8331S-O $2,650.00 330mm 8 SC5 Street Orange
(Cefiro A33)
08-01-2006, 03:14 AM
#63
Originally Posted by MR.Large
im going to assume these will not fit under stock rims what offset is requires to clear these?
08-04-2006, 10:57 PM
#67
Originally Posted by MaxBoost925
I havn't gotten a price yet btw.
Can you do me a favor and give me the prices for:
2000, ABS, 13 inch
2000, ABS, 14 inch
Thanks a lot! I know you're busy and I appreciate it.
08-05-2006, 01:45 AM
#68
Maxima 95-99 KSP-BKNS040-8331S-O $2,650.00 330mm 8 SC5 Street Orange
(Cefiro A32)
Maxima 00-03 KSP-BKNS050-8331S-O $2,650.00 330mm 8 SC5 Street Orange
(Cefiro A33)
i take it that ALL MAXIMA setups come with 13 inch rotors...
330mm = 12.99 inches
so there you have it folks!
(Cefiro A32)
Maxima 00-03 KSP-BKNS050-8331S-O $2,650.00 330mm 8 SC5 Street Orange
(Cefiro A33)
i take it that ALL MAXIMA setups come with 13 inch rotors...
330mm = 12.99 inches
so there you have it folks!
08-08-2006, 05:01 PM
#70
Originally Posted by steven88
this kit definitely looks crazy...better pack blehmco's rear BBK kit (or some other equivalent) in order to evenly distribute the bias 
08-08-2006, 05:09 PM
#71
Originally Posted by 97PKIMVQ
seriously. didn't someone try to sell 8 piston bbk's and got shot down about how uneven the distribution was in braking? what was it didn't top element try selling the 8 piston ap brakes?
08-09-2006, 09:55 AM
#74
28mm pistons, eh?
Stock 4th and 5th gen front calipers are single-2.25" piston sliding calipers, which is effectively the same as twin-2.25" piston fixed calipers. That's the same as two 57 mm pistons, which gives a total effective piston area of about 5101 mm^2. 8 28mm pistons gives a total piston area of 4923.5 mm^2. That's close enough that there wouldn't be much difference in the amount of hydraulic pressure you'd need to get a certain amount of clamping force, which means the stock master cylinder should be fine and there would be none of the soft pedal crap and under-utilization of the front brakes that some people get with BBKs. So, if that's what the "balance" concerns were about, there should be no worries.
What you do get is a massive increase in pad area, much more equitable distribution of clamp force across the whole pad, and a caliper that is placed farther from the hub on a bigger rotor. All that adds up to a HUGE increase in brake torque, which is kind of a tricky thing: On one hand, our cars already have a little too much front brake bias, which makes the fronts lock up before the rears; adding even more front brake bias could make that worse. On the other hand, unless you have super-stiff front springs or bad front tires, a lot of braking force can actually cause enough forward load transfer that the forward brake bias becomes useful again. Either way, if the "balance" concerns had to do with brake force bias, they are definitely relevant; whether the outcome will be optimal will depend on tires, spring rates, etc.....
It's kinda tricky, but the net effect should be good.
Stock 4th and 5th gen front calipers are single-2.25" piston sliding calipers, which is effectively the same as twin-2.25" piston fixed calipers. That's the same as two 57 mm pistons, which gives a total effective piston area of about 5101 mm^2. 8 28mm pistons gives a total piston area of 4923.5 mm^2. That's close enough that there wouldn't be much difference in the amount of hydraulic pressure you'd need to get a certain amount of clamping force, which means the stock master cylinder should be fine and there would be none of the soft pedal crap and under-utilization of the front brakes that some people get with BBKs. So, if that's what the "balance" concerns were about, there should be no worries.
What you do get is a massive increase in pad area, much more equitable distribution of clamp force across the whole pad, and a caliper that is placed farther from the hub on a bigger rotor. All that adds up to a HUGE increase in brake torque, which is kind of a tricky thing: On one hand, our cars already have a little too much front brake bias, which makes the fronts lock up before the rears; adding even more front brake bias could make that worse. On the other hand, unless you have super-stiff front springs or bad front tires, a lot of braking force can actually cause enough forward load transfer that the forward brake bias becomes useful again. Either way, if the "balance" concerns had to do with brake force bias, they are definitely relevant; whether the outcome will be optimal will depend on tires, spring rates, etc.....
It's kinda tricky, but the net effect should be good.
08-09-2006, 10:37 AM
#75
Originally Posted by d00df00d
28mm pistons, eh?
Stock 4th and 5th gen front calipers are single-2.25" piston sliding calipers, which is effectively the same as twin-2.25" piston fixed calipers. That's the same as two 57 mm pistons, which gives a total effective piston area of about 5101 mm^2. 8 28mm pistons gives a total piston area of 4923.5 mm^2. That's close enough that there wouldn't be much difference in the amount of hydraulic pressure you'd need to get a certain amount of clamping force, which means the stock master cylinder should be fine and there would be none of the soft pedal crap and under-utilization of the front brakes that some people get with BBKs. So, if that's what the "balance" concerns were about, there should be no worries.
What you do get is a massive increase in pad area, much more equitable distribution of clamp force across the whole pad, and a caliper that is placed farther from the hub on a bigger rotor. All that adds up to a HUGE increase in brake torque, which is kind of a tricky thing: On one hand, our cars already have a little too much front brake bias, which makes the fronts lock up before the rears; adding even more front brake bias could make that worse. On the other hand, unless you have super-stiff front springs or bad front tires, a lot of braking force can actually cause enough forward load transfer that the forward brake bias becomes useful again. Either way, if the "balance" concerns had to do with brake force bias, they are definitely relevant; whether the outcome will be optimal will depend on tires, spring rates, etc.....
It's kinda tricky, but the net effect should be good.
Stock 4th and 5th gen front calipers are single-2.25" piston sliding calipers, which is effectively the same as twin-2.25" piston fixed calipers. That's the same as two 57 mm pistons, which gives a total effective piston area of about 5101 mm^2. 8 28mm pistons gives a total piston area of 4923.5 mm^2. That's close enough that there wouldn't be much difference in the amount of hydraulic pressure you'd need to get a certain amount of clamping force, which means the stock master cylinder should be fine and there would be none of the soft pedal crap and under-utilization of the front brakes that some people get with BBKs. So, if that's what the "balance" concerns were about, there should be no worries.
What you do get is a massive increase in pad area, much more equitable distribution of clamp force across the whole pad, and a caliper that is placed farther from the hub on a bigger rotor. All that adds up to a HUGE increase in brake torque, which is kind of a tricky thing: On one hand, our cars already have a little too much front brake bias, which makes the fronts lock up before the rears; adding even more front brake bias could make that worse. On the other hand, unless you have super-stiff front springs or bad front tires, a lot of braking force can actually cause enough forward load transfer that the forward brake bias becomes useful again. Either way, if the "balance" concerns had to do with brake force bias, they are definitely relevant; whether the outcome will be optimal will depend on tires, spring rates, etc.....
It's kinda tricky, but the net effect should be good.
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