GD: 02-08 Nylatron Shifter Cable Bushings by TurboS13Hatch
03-29-2009, 10:59 AM
#85
Steve.. you weren't trying to put the metal sleeve inside the new bushing were you? They don't need a sleeve.. The material is self lubricating, and has a longer wear life than steel.
Maybe I misinterpreted what you were saying.. let me know..
Thanks for the feedback!
Travis
Maybe I misinterpreted what you were saying.. let me know..
Thanks for the feedback!
Travis
03-29-2009, 01:05 PM
#87
The only thing you have to do is remove the stock bushings from both ends of the cable toss them and replace them with the hard bushings and reattach. You only need use two of the 3 bushings sent, since you have a 5.5gen. one has a larger hole than the other two. DONT use it.
03-29-2009, 01:41 PM
#89
Hmm, maybe I didnt knw where to install the last one??? lol I didnt see a place for it. Uh oh. I just remember him saying he needed to knw the years of the cars and I assumed that since the ES kit used two bushings, that we only needed two for this. Well I'll wait for Travis to clear it up. Good thing I kept it.
03-29-2009, 04:29 PM
#91
I replaced the one on top of the tranny and the one on the top right side of the shifter. What was the third one? I saw a bushing on the lower left side of the shifter but it looked like it was riveted on. I'm gonna go look at it again in a sec. I think you are right about using all three. I installed the rear pair of ES shifter frame bushings that I could find earlier. They do make a diff I was surprised, too bad I lost the rest of them. The inside of my center consul was just nasty tho.
03-31-2009, 04:28 PM
#93
Two go into the trans compartment, and are the same size.. One that is the same diameter, but has a smaller hole in the center, goes inside the vehicle, on the shifter side of the cable.
Travis
03-31-2009, 06:10 PM
#94
Hmm, I swear my car didnt have a bushing on the one of the cables on the tranny that looked like it could be taken off. Well I give it a look tom.
04-01-2009, 12:35 PM
#96
Travis
04-02-2009, 05:01 AM
#98
That's odd.. You should have 2 posts on the transmission side that are the same size, and one inside the car that's just a hair larger.. which is why I sent one bushing with a slightly larger hole.
Travis
Travis
04-02-2009, 12:17 PM
#102
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Doh! Money is sent.
OK, for the record, I think three bushings are sent in the kit:
OK, for the record, I think three bushings are sent in the kit:
- 2 identical ones which go under the airbox for the linkage.
- 1 that is slightly larger which goes to the linkage at the shifter.
04-02-2009, 12:19 PM
#103
That is correct.. as long as it's for a 02/03.. If it's for a 04+, then, your kit will come with 2 bushings that are the same, and one that is larger in diameter. The 04+ has a larger bushing on the trans side, and the lower trans bushing/shifter bushing will be the same ID and OD.
It's pretty self explanatory when you pull the old ones out..
Travis
It's pretty self explanatory when you pull the old ones out..
Travis
04-03-2009, 07:59 AM
#105
Travis
04-04-2009, 12:26 AM
#107
No disrespect intended at all when I say this.. but, I have NO idea what you're trying to explain.. lol..
There's 3 bushings, which go inside of metal rings/loops.. two on the trans side, and one in the car, on the shifter. The 4th cable end (inside the car), which has a plastic fitting on it, is left alone..
Here's a good pic of the in-cab single bushing, installed.. It also shows the plastic cable end, which is left alone..
This pic shows the lower trans bushing installed..
And the upper..
Can you show me from those pics, what you're trying to describe? I don't understand what you mean by "hard plastic fastener".. The OEM bushings are just rubber, with a brass sleeve on the inside. Again, not insulting you here.. I honestly don't understand what you mean, and I'd like to help you get this straightened out!
Travis
There's 3 bushings, which go inside of metal rings/loops.. two on the trans side, and one in the car, on the shifter. The 4th cable end (inside the car), which has a plastic fitting on it, is left alone..
Here's a good pic of the in-cab single bushing, installed.. It also shows the plastic cable end, which is left alone..
This pic shows the lower trans bushing installed..
And the upper..
Can you show me from those pics, what you're trying to describe? I don't understand what you mean by "hard plastic fastener".. The OEM bushings are just rubber, with a brass sleeve on the inside. Again, not insulting you here.. I honestly don't understand what you mean, and I'd like to help you get this straightened out!
Travis
04-04-2009, 12:33 AM
#108
Here's a set of pics, showing the two different sets of bushings.. These are from the Spec V, so don't pay attention to the year breakdown in the pics..
Aftermarket at the top, and OEM bushings below
These are what you should have in a 02/03 Max..
All the same OD, but, one bushing (which goes inside the car), has a slightly larger ID
These would be for the 04+ guys..
Two with the same OD, and ID, and one with a larger OD, but, the same ID. One of the smaller bushings goes in the cab, and the larger and remaining small bushing go on the trans side.
Do you have something different? Once you remove the factory bushings, shown at the bottom of each pic, the new ones should slide right in.
Travis
Aftermarket at the top, and OEM bushings below
These are what you should have in a 02/03 Max..
All the same OD, but, one bushing (which goes inside the car), has a slightly larger ID
These would be for the 04+ guys..
Two with the same OD, and ID, and one with a larger OD, but, the same ID. One of the smaller bushings goes in the cab, and the larger and remaining small bushing go on the trans side.
Do you have something different? Once you remove the factory bushings, shown at the bottom of each pic, the new ones should slide right in.
Travis
04-05-2009, 08:06 PM
#110
Really?? Would you mind snapping a pic of this, and posting it up for me? I've never ran into what you're explaining before.. I'd like to make changes if necessary.
What's the production date on your Max?
Thanks!
Travis
What's the production date on your Max?
Thanks!
Travis
04-19-2009, 09:32 PM
#115
Yes sir.. all bushings that were paid for (as of 4/18), were shipped out on Friday.
You should all have received tracking info via email, and you should have them in 3-4 business days.
Thanks!
Travis
You should all have received tracking info via email, and you should have them in 3-4 business days.
Thanks!
Travis
04-19-2009, 09:33 PM
#116
Steve.. Did you ever get a chance to snap a pic of that peice that you were talking about? I see that you edited your comments.. Did you get it figured out? Just wanted to make sure you were taken care of. Let me know..
Travis
Travis
04-20-2009, 07:21 PM
#117
Removed and sold them.
Lesson learned.
04-21-2009, 11:06 AM
#118
I don't understand.. What lesson did you learn? Everyone else who has these, never had any problem whatsoever with the install or otherwise. I bent over backwards to try and help you figure this out. You never gave me pics, or details.. I even followed up to make sure that you had gotten this figured out. Why the animosity? You never gave me a chance to help you figure this out.
Travis
04-27-2009, 06:13 AM
#119
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I was able to install the bushings yesterday along with the TWM Performance STS adapter and have good news and bad news:
The good news is that most of the bushings installed without an issue and the feel of them plus the STS makes a huge improvement over stock. It's a shame the car couldn't come this way from the factory.
Now for the bad news. the bushing used for the lower endlink is not the same as pictured in the pics. They must have changed the design. First, it isn't attached with a cotter pin. It's attached with a wire style C clip which was awkward to remove especially since I didn't have a small mirror to see how it went on. I was able to remove the clip, slide off the endlink and remove the OEM bushing. Here is where the problem lies.
The bushing has a sleeve with a special end that is used to attach the C clip. I slid on your new bushing by itself and it was way too short in width. I'm sure I cold have ghetto fabbed some washers and a way to attach the C clip but would be concerned with it falling off when I'm out on the road.
I took the factory bushing off the sleeve to see how big the opening is. The largest drill bit I own is a 3/8" and the sleeve has a small bit of play on it. I took pics to try to show the differences.
The OEM bushing on the left is for the upper endlink. The bushing on the right has the sleeve/adapter above it.
With everything I experienced, there should be no reason to touch the lower bushing because replacing it only has a minimal improvement with too much work and the possibility of totaling the wired C clip that is quite hard to access and reattach from above. Just looking at the bushing shows that there isn't much rubber to cause sloppiness for the inside diameter is bigger but the outside diameter is the same. Technically, you could attempt to bore out the new bushing to a larger diameter to fit over the OEM sleeve, but I'm not sure how much improvement you could feel.
The good news is that most of the bushings installed without an issue and the feel of them plus the STS makes a huge improvement over stock. It's a shame the car couldn't come this way from the factory.
Now for the bad news. the bushing used for the lower endlink is not the same as pictured in the pics. They must have changed the design. First, it isn't attached with a cotter pin. It's attached with a wire style C clip which was awkward to remove especially since I didn't have a small mirror to see how it went on. I was able to remove the clip, slide off the endlink and remove the OEM bushing. Here is where the problem lies.
The bushing has a sleeve with a special end that is used to attach the C clip. I slid on your new bushing by itself and it was way too short in width. I'm sure I cold have ghetto fabbed some washers and a way to attach the C clip but would be concerned with it falling off when I'm out on the road.
I took the factory bushing off the sleeve to see how big the opening is. The largest drill bit I own is a 3/8" and the sleeve has a small bit of play on it. I took pics to try to show the differences.
The OEM bushing on the left is for the upper endlink. The bushing on the right has the sleeve/adapter above it.
With everything I experienced, there should be no reason to touch the lower bushing because replacing it only has a minimal improvement with too much work and the possibility of totaling the wired C clip that is quite hard to access and reattach from above. Just looking at the bushing shows that there isn't much rubber to cause sloppiness for the inside diameter is bigger but the outside diameter is the same. Technically, you could attempt to bore out the new bushing to a larger diameter to fit over the OEM sleeve, but I'm not sure how much improvement you could feel.
Last edited by TallTom; 04-27-2009 at 06:17 AM.
