Well, my supplier does not keep these parts in stock. (he did have various pieces, but no complete kits).

He says it will take 2 months to get a complete order of 10 (I think he's being conservative here)

But he wants 50% up front to verify I will absolutely be buying these from him, so he doesn't get stuck with stock on hand he may never sell. (makes perfect sense)

But I came to the conclusion that if everyone only paid 50% up front, then the other 50% when the guy gets them in stock, there's a good chance that someone will have had some circumstance happen that doesn't allow them to pay the other 50% for whatever reason. Then it would hold up everyone in the GD from getting their parts, and screw me pretty good.

So therefor, I need 100% up front by EOD tomorrow. I will then order them Wednesday and start the ball rolling.

IanS

 

I would really like to get one of these right now but I will have to look at finances right now. I am interested and will let you know tommorrow. Would it be any cheaper for me since I can come and pick it up from you? let me know. I will e-mail tommorow.

 

NOONE SEND ME ANY MONEY!

PayPal, seeing all this cash dumped into my account has locked my account from deposits or withdrawals.

I am on the phone with them in infinite hold trying to sort out why I have had this PayPal account for over a year, and they are hassling me now about it.

I'll get this sorted out quickly, and let you all know.

 

ayyy damn i can't make this dead line dude im out.

 

Well maybe you can now.

PayPal is telling me that it will take anywhere from 96 hours to 15 days to unlock my account.

Don't worry everyone, there's a reason I said "2-3 months".
You'll still get them in the 3 month window, hopefully.

@#%@$@!!!!!

I've been yelling at them, and they assure me it will be much closer to 96 hours than 15 days, however.

IanS

 

Why did they lock it in the first place? I've never seen anything mentioned about how much you can send to a user
-hype

 

OK.

I had to fax them a copy of my bank statement, driver's license, and last utility bill.

But they assure me this will be fixed by Friday evening.

So I guess the GD goes on until Sunday.

If anyone that couldn't come up with the money can by then, then you're set.

Apparently, because my account has been relatively inactive (a couple dozen small E-Bay auctions, a few transactions with .org members), and then burst with activity (all of you guys, sold a TV and LCD Remote on Ebay), they wanted to know that I was who I say I am.

Which I don't get because I am a verified member, and my account has been active since June 2000.

But whatever. It's getting fixed.

Oh yeah, minimum wait time with them was 45 minutes.
I had to call 3 times.
I hope you all love me for it.

IanS

 

RC-2000? MX-500? Pronto?

 

What?

 

The LCD remote!

 

RM-AV2100

 

Too big.

 

I have sent each of you who have sent me money the following E-Mail:

We have to do this another way, basically. Anyone interested still who wants to use their Credit Card will need to use Western Union.

If I don't get at least 10 responses of intent by this weekend, I'm just going to drop the GD all together. This is sucking too much out of my life.

IanS

 

awww please don't say such things. Please say you'll do the group deal regardless of whether you get 10 people. You've done too much to pull out now I'm looking too forward to this mod.

 

Well, I have to admit that I wrote that post just after getting off the phone with PayPal.

I just am emotionally drained. I'm dealing with other people's money here, and I take that and my credibility very seriously.

All the while PayPal is making me look like a jackazz.....Or just maybe making themselves look like it, but nonetheless, it sucks.

So I'll probably still do the group deal, but I understand how impatient people must be getting with this and how impatient my supplier is getting waiting for me to place the order. I had hoped to place it today, but now by the time everyone gets their refund from PayPal and resends the money another way, it could be another week or two.

This is seriously making me unable to concentrate at work, frustrated, and tired.

But I will do my best. I DO need at least 5 people.

So people who I sent mail to, please let me know if you still plan to go with this as soon as you can.

Thanks,
IanS

 

Ian, Thanks for spending your time to do this deal. It's very much appreciated!!


I don't understand that freaking Paypal company.

They could have called, or emailed each one of us and we would have gladly given permission to wait for the product.

For all they know you have been able to ship the damn intakes within a month anyway.

 

Yep. I'm done dealing with them.

Everyone who still plans on resending the money in another form to me (Be it Western Union, mail, etc...), please send mail to cyberoptik@cablespeed.com

I am also going to go talk to my bank Friday about setting up a merchant account through Wells Fargo online nad possibly just being able to accept CC's from my website directly. This is however a long shot, as i think the account has to have a minimum of $10,000 in it to open it.

IanS

 

You must have a regular bank account. Couldn't we just get the account number and put a deposit into it, assuming we can find a branch in our area?? Maybe a Chase or Citibank etc?

Also, if you use your credit card thru western union, you lose your ability to get your money back, because all that Western Union is gaurranteeing is the transfer of money, not delivery of goods. So, may as well use cash in that case.


DW

 

Yes, you can transfer straight into my account, but that would be no more guaranteed than mailing me a check or using your online bank account to mail me a check.

I heard from the RB scandal that several people did get their money back from Western Union. Maybe I mis-read?
I know I'm honest, but I want everyone to be comfortable.

Anyway, I have sent everyone who had sent me money via PayPal mail.

Everyone else who is still interested, here is a copy:

-BEGIN EMAIL-
I’ll basically take votes on what we should use:
USPS - http://www.usps.com/paymentservices/pspaymnt.htm
Yahoo PayDirect - http://paydirect.yahoo.com/

Whichever the most people go with, I’ll use.
Of course, anyone can use Western Union, as it is just a regular service.
Same with mailing me a check.

Thanks,
IanS

 

Only crediat card users had a chance of getting their money back. Western Union users, like myself, were SOL. Even if you used your credit card thru Western union, you were still SOL.

DW

 

Well, my Yahoo PayDirect ID is "cyberhubvi"

You can also do a driect transfer into my bank account. Mail me at cyberoptik@cablespeed.com for more info.

IanS

 

Paypal's jerking us around, they are refusing to refund our money unless we fill out a buyer complaint form. Then it will take 3-35 days to get our money back. Why don't you just resend our money back to us since or call Paypal and give them authorization to give the money back. Did you get a reference number when you called them about the problem Ian?

 

They won't let me Send or receive any money.

I'm on the phone with them right now.

I'll get this sorted out.

IanS

 

PayPal appears to have no record that you were to be refunded, although I called back yesterday twice to ensure that you were.

They told me that I needed to call back when their 3:00 shift begins and discuss it with them.

I have NEVER dealt with such horrible customer service.

If any of you use PayPal on a regular basis, I advise you to withdraw any money you have with them now and never use them again.

Also, if you have problems, you can go to the links section of PayPalsucks.com and file to be part of the pending class-action suit against them by the state of CA and the state of South Carolina.

That's what I just did.

I will get your money refunded ASAP, even if I have to call back 20 times today. I don't understand why they can't understand that this is not THEIR money they're dealing with, and why they can't get any of their records in order.

Also, PayPal is not FDIC insured, so if someone hacks into their database and steals money, they have no recourse, or if they ever go out of business, they can take everyone's money and keep it without any recourse also.

BAAAAD business.

PLEASE don't file any complaints. it will just make things harder for me.

I WILL get this sorted out without anyone needing to file complaints.

IanS

 

Tlaked to the Departmental Manager for PayPal's resultion department.

She guarantees me you will all have your refunds processed within the next 24 hours.

In other news, I sold a TV to someone on ebay for local Seattle pickup for a friend of mine, and it turns out he used a hacked PayPal account. PayPal will not give me any of that cash, and I had already given my friend the cash out of my bank account, because I could not pull it from PayPal.

So I'm out $600...

I'm NOT having a good week.

IanS

 

Sigh... it's 2:20 and no money yet...

 

I know dude.

I called them again this morning, the minute the 24 hour deadline had passed, and PayPal told me they "misunderstood" me when I said "Can you guarantee me that the money will be refunded within 24 hours" yesterday.

I don't get what part of "can you guarantee me" they didn't understand.

I talked to Lori in their resolutions department this morning and hopefully cleared it up.....for the 4TH TIME!

I'm really sorry about all of this, guys. It's made me physically sick, seriously. I'm going to call them again in a few hours and make sure it's being processed.

Now they tell me again it will be within 24 hours.



IanS

 

Thank Ian, I know you are doing everything within your power to resolve it. We really appreciate everything you are doing to straighten this out. It seems like the O-Shi-t factor is always unavoidable.

 

Yeah, agreed. Thanks Ian.

 

Went to the track today. My first 2 runs were horrible because I'd never done the 1/4 mile before and didn't know what I was doing.

But the next and final 2 were interesting.

.4 seconds off the 1/4 with the VI on.

Unfortunately, my car is still way slow, and I don't know why. We stripped the spare and everything we could. Maybe it's just my 18's and my speaker box causing the fuss.

Anyway, here's the slips, one version to post and one for my site. The one on the site is bigger and easier to read:

http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/installed/timeslips2.jpg

[img]http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/installed/timeslips.jpg[img]

BTW, I'm calling PayPal again to bug them right now.

Disect the track times as you wish.

 

All of your money should be back in your accounts now.

I'm a little scared to use PayDirect (yahoo) to pay. What if the same crap happens again?

What do you all think? What's a good way to do this?
I know most Credit Card companies will transfer money directly from your CC to a bank account. You should then be covered if anything bad happens. We could do that (E-Mail me and call your CC Company if you want to do it that way). <Don't wanna post my bank account # here>.

Or Western union or Wire Transfer or just mail me a check.

And maybe PayDirect. I'm going to go read their user agreement thouroughly right now and make sure they don't have any f'ed up rules like PayPal.

(Oh yeah, another thing about Yahoo PayDirect is it's FDIC Insured. PayPal isn't, and that's why it's so hard to recover money from them.)

IanS

IanS

 

what altitude are you at?? maybe you need the times to be corrected....your car might be performing fine, it might just be that your track is at a high altitutde!

 

500 feet.

Doesn't matter...S/C is on the way!

 

You're not using our PayPal money to finance the SC are you? Just kidding.

 

Heh...no.

The PayPal money should all be refunded now, by the way. let me know if you have any problems.

In addition, it looks like yahoo PayDirect won't work. They only allow a $1000 limit to your account.

Anyone have any other ideas?
I'm seriously thinking about just setting up a Merchant Account and doing it that way.

IanS

 

Glad to see someone finally make it to the track with one of these. 16s are a tad high for an automatic. What are your other mods. hen I was N/A, and only had a catback, I ran ~15.8. You never went to the track before the VI was installed, huh? Also, one run with the VI closed and one with it open isn't enough to form a conclusion. You would have to do multiple runs, same day, same mods, same launches, etc. and form a pattern. But at least we get somewhat of an idea. So you are getting an SC, huh Ian? Congrats. Enjoy.

 

I think it was a great comparison. My RT was almost exactly the same, my 60 foot was even, and then the 300ft and 1/4 mile showed the difference.

Since this mod is an upper-end mod, the top of 3rd gear I'm guessing would have shown an even greater difference. Unfortunately, they don't have 1/2 mile races at the track.

I was doing it on my heavy-azz 18's and a speaker box in the trunk. That's why my times were low. I didn't care so much what the times were, only the difference, although I was a little dissapointed nonetheless.

Having the VI off and on is the only way to compare. If I did a run with my old plenums first, people would just say "well, that's not a good comparison because of the carbon buildup in the plenums, the fact that the plenums are different, etc, etc..You can't make everyone happy, I guess.

Cheers,
IanS

 

Right, I hear you. But just for argument's sake, one could say you used to run 15.8 and now with the VI you run 16.6 with it closed, 16.2 with it open. I'm just speaking devil's advocate/theoretically and I doubt this is the case, I just would have kind of liked to see your times before the VI, not just open and closed. You brought up a good point about the RT and 60' being equal. So, although I would like to see more runs to see a pattern, you're right in saying that is a good comparison. Good job.
Let me know if I can help in any way with the SC.

 

Yeah, I see your point there too.

But my butt dyno is pretty good, and I know the car felt more powerful even with the VI turned off after installing the new plenums.

I'm also sure this was caused because there is now no carbon buildup in the plenums.

What I'm saying is that the car was slower with no VI on the car than with the VI installed and turned off. NOt a whole lot, but enough to notice..maybe 5hp.

I wish I had done a run before also, but the track only opened last weekend here in wet Seattle.

IanS

 

EVERYONE!

Well, it seems people are uncomfortable just sending me a check or wiring me cash.

How much more comfortable would all of you feel if I only got the 50% down now, and the other 50% in 2 months??

I would still like to get 10 people, and maybe this will help people who are short on cash now be able to do it.

I would need the other 50% in 2 months before my supplier ships them, however. But you should be able to use PayPal for that, as you will be receiving the product within 30 days, which is what PayPal had a problem with before.

If someone can't come up with the other 50%, I will just sell the spot to someone else for $560 and give them their 50% back from that.

Please E-Mail me at cyberoptik@cablespeed.com if you're interested.

Thanks,
IanS