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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 08:26 PM
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Ntirous G/D

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Im sure many of you , like my self have been waiting for a nitrous G/D or a great deal on nitrous. I figure if no one els isent going to do it , i might as well try...

im going to write to a couple companys and see if they will cut be any deals if i buy off of them there NOS #5124 kit in quantity

I just want to see how many of u guys would be intrested ?


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Old Jun 9, 2002 | 08:43 AM
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i would be intrested
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Ok im going to start writing, and try to get some prices ASAP



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i dont need a big system just something to give me a little boost. something like less than a 50 shot. my friend told me not to start putting crazy stuff or stuff will start breaking.
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i dont need a big system just something to give me a little boost. something like less than a 50 shot. my friend told me not to start putting crazy stuff or stuff will start breaking.
A nitrous kit, is a nitrous kit, there all basic.... its not how big the kit is that give u a size shot, all kits are the same size... the part that hooks up to your intake, that shoots in the nitrous, there are little jet nozzels, some bigger then othere, and thoes are what give you, your shot, you can out in a 30 shot nozzel, and then if you ever feel like u want more, u can change it out with a 50 shot....the kit will always be the same

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It depends on how good of a deal you can get. It's going to be awhile before I will install it(warranty must expire), so unless the savings are SUBSTANTIAL I'll just wait.

Good luck, but I doubt that we would be able to buy a large enough quantity for ANYONE to consider a discount.

A list you may consider trying:
1)Custommaxima.com(He could move a large enough quantity plus he has all the payment avenues set up already). I think talking to Greg FIRST would be your best bet.
2)JWT
3)Cattman(I can call Brian if you want to see what hook ups he has).
4)Local shop willing to buy say 10-kits wholesale and mark them up to you and then you ship them out. I doubt you would save that much.
5)JC Whitney. They deal in a LARGE quantity of NOS kits, but probably not willing to work with us.
6)Ebay sellers.
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Originally posted by IceY2K1
It depends on how good of a deal you can get. It's going to be awhile before I will install it(warranty must expire), so unless the savings are SUBSTANTIAL I'll just wait.

Good luck, but I doubt that we would be able to buy a large enough quantity for ANYONE to consider a discount.

A list you may consider trying:
1)Custommaxima.com(He could move a large enough quantity plus he has all the payment avenues set up already). I think talking to Greg FIRST would be your best bet.
2)JWT
3)Cattman(I can call Brian if you want to see what hook ups he has).
4)Local shop willing to buy say 10-kits wholesale and mark them up to you and then you ship them out. I doubt you would save that much.
5)JC Whitney. They deal in a LARGE quantity of NOS kits, but probably not willing to work with us.
6)Ebay sellers.
Thanks for the help im on it...

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I can help

If you guys want NX kits, in particular the Import, Single Shot, and Import Direct Port kit. The first is the single, the second is the multi. I can get the single for $1000 Can, and the multi for $1200 if I buy them in singles. If I can even get 10, I'm sure I could get that price lowered i.e. 10-15%

http://www.nitrousexpress.com/produc...=31101&loc=101

http://www.nitrousexpress.com/produc...=31101&loc=101
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Originally posted by Sin
If you guys want NX kits, in particular the Import, Single Shot, and Import Direct Port kit. The first is the single, the second is the multi. I can get the single for $1000 Can, and the multi for $1200 if I buy them in singles. If I can even get 10, I'm sure I could get that price lowered i.e. 10-15%

http://www.nitrousexpress.com/produc...=31101&loc=101

http://www.nitrousexpress.com/produc...=31101&loc=101
Isn't the NX kit a "wet" kit?

I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking with a NOS #5124 kit, since it's PROVEN on the Maxima. Just being a little cautious.

Thanks though! Maybe others won't mind going with a NX kit.
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Isn't the NX kit a "wet" kit?

I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking with a NOS #5124 kit, since it's PROVEN on the Maxima. Just being a little cautious.

Thanks though! Maybe others won't mind going with a NX kit.
Yes the NX kits are wet. Personally, I'd never run a dry kit on my car. If you are only running 50 or so hp, then it's not a big deal. However, if you ever want to go bigger, it would be so much easier to just go wet. Plus, with the direct port, the distribution of gas and nitrous to each cylinder is just perfect. And because of the pirhana nozzle, even the single port distributes very well. There are I believe two or three org members that are running the single port and have been running them for a while now with no problems reported. Basically, if you only want 50hp, and don't ever want to go too big, go with the cheaper NOS 5124. But if you want tunability, and added engine protection, and the ability to tune to hp increases beyond 99.999999% of where most org members are willing to go, the NX will still get you there.
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Yes the NX kits are wet. Personally, I'd never run a dry kit on my car. If you are only running 50 or so hp, then it's not a big deal. However, if you ever want to go bigger, it would be so much easier to just go wet. Plus, with the direct port, the distribution of gas and nitrous to each cylinder is just perfect. And because of the pirhana nozzle, even the single port distributes very well. There are I believe two or three org members that are running the single port and have been running them for a while now with no problems reported. Basically, if you only want 50hp, and don't ever want to go too big, go with the cheaper NOS 5124. But if you want tunability, and added engine protection, and the ability to tune to hp increases beyond 99.999999% of where most org members are willing to go, the NX will still get you there.
I just took out my 5124 yesterday and installed the NX, gotta get my bottle filled today to try it out. The NX is a much higher quality kit, the solenoids are about 4 times larger and stronger, I am impressed. The other thing I like is their HP claims are within 2% accuracy and they are in wheel HP, they pride themselves in being accurate.
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Yes the NX kits are wet. Personally, I'd never run a dry kit on my car. If you are only running 50 or so hp, then it's not a big deal. However, if you ever want to go bigger, it would be so much easier to just go wet. Plus, with the direct port, the distribution of gas and nitrous to each cylinder is just perfect. And because of the pirhana nozzle, even the single port distributes very well. There are I believe two or three org members that are running the single port and have been running them for a while now with no problems reported. Basically, if you only want 50hp, and don't ever want to go too big, go with the cheaper NOS 5124. But if you want tunability, and added engine protection, and the ability to tune to hp increases beyond 99.999999% of where most org members are willing to go, the NX will still get you there.
A 2K-2K1 is running a #5124 with a 100-shot and put ~298hp/~305tq to the wheels. A 2K2 is runnig the same kit with a "160-shot" and he got 257.34hp/338.48tq withOUT even tuning yet.

Basically, the dry kit IS safer(no chance of backfire), simpler(no need to run fuel lines, remove/tap the manifold), cheaper(to install/remove), and will provide MORE than enough power than I would ever need(100+whp/100+wtq).

The direct multiport kits are too much hassle IMO, but if your going for all out power(350-400+hp) it's definitely the better option.

Just my .02, which aint worth jack!
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Re: I can help

Originally posted by Sin
If you guys want NX kits, in particular the Import, Single Shot, and Import Direct Port kit. The first is the single, the second is the multi. I can get the single for $1000 Can, and the multi for $1200 if I buy them in singles. If I can even get 10, I'm sure I could get that price lowered i.e. 10-15%

http://www.nitrousexpress.com/produc...=31101&loc=101

http://www.nitrousexpress.com/produc...=31101&loc=101
Do you have any hook ups on Nos kits....just the basic kits...for liek 500$ ?


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Do you have any hook ups on Nos kits....just the basic kits...for liek 500$ ?


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No. The mod shop I am affiliated with refuses to use NOS kits. They will use NOS components hear and there, but in general, they use NX for reliability and quality issues.
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Do you have any hook ups on Nos kits....just the basic kits...for liek 500$ ?


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You don't need a hook up to get if for $500:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/item.jhtml?ITEMID=49791&BQ=sc

There are other places for around that price. I'd keep an eye out on the Altima forum and eBay, because people sell brand new kits every now and then for <$400. On ebay you'll most likely have to get new jets, since the kit is usually not a #5124 and comes with smaller jets. I think jets are about $5, so it's not that big a deal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1835575275
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You don't need a hook up to get if for $500:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/item.jhtml?ITEMID=49791&BQ=sc

There are other places for around that price. I'd keep an eye out on the Altima forum and eBay, because people sell brand new kits every now and then for <$400. On ebay you'll most likely have to get new jets, since the kit is usually not a #5124 and comes with smaller jets. I think jets are about $5, so it's not that big a deal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1835575275
Oh i know i can get them for 500$ i was just asking if he can get the 500$ kits for cheeper


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Oh i know i can get them for 500$ i was just asking if he can get the 500$ kits for cheeper


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Sorry, I guess I read it too fast.
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Sorry to be such a newbie to the subject, but is NOS legal? Can you get someone to install for you? and If so, about how much would that run?

Thanks
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Sorry to be such a newbie to the subject, but is NOS legal? Can you get someone to install for you? and If so, about how much would that run?

Thanks
It's NOT legal to use or have armed on the street, however you can have it LEGALLY unarmed. Then just use a remote bottle opener if the "need" arises.

Performance shops can do the install. I'm not sure how much they will charge, but NOS estimates 4-6hrs. so I would GUESS $200-300.
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Sorry to be such a newbie to the subject, but is NOS legal? Can you get someone to install for you? and If so, about how much would that run?

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Tyrotrader... let me start of by telling you , when you start talking about the happy gas, do not call it NOS, NOS is a brand, like many otheres, as NX, ZEX, Venom....just call it Nitrous...

And about Nitrous being legal, no it's not, but every state is harder on it than otheres....so check your state and see what it is like...here in FL Nitrous is not legal, only if your cought using it, if you get pulled over with it, and its turned off, then your fine... yes you can get people to install it, car shops will do it, i cant honestly say how much.. every one is diffrent...so just ask around


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Originally posted by tyrotrader
Sorry to be such a newbie to the subject, but is NOS legal? Can you get someone to install for you? and If so, about how much would that run?

Thanks
I hate like sounding like a jerk, but I firmly believe that if you can't install nitrous you shouldn't be running it. That said, befriend someone that has nitrous, its not difficult and the more you learn about it the more armed you are to operate it. You have to know a fair bit to change jets, both fuel and nitrous and what mods are necessary beyond the limits of 60-70 HP etc and that you can only find out by reading and experiencing. You should know how your plugs should look like, how much fuel pressure is required for each shot, when you have to upgrade etc etc. There is a wealth of info on the forum and all you have to do is read. I came on this forum in Jan after just buying a 97 Max, I have run a 13.6 and just installed an NX kit and hoping for a whole lot more so if I can do it, its gotta be easy.
I am trying to help but you have to take some initiative as well, its all here you just have to read and ask.
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The JC Whitney Kit for $500 has a 10 lb bottle. Is that a 50 shot? BTW- a "shot" is the amount of hp that gets added, right?
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The JC Whitney Kit for $500 has a 10 lb bottle. Is that a 50 shot? BTW- a "shot" is the amount of hp that gets added, right?
Yes, the NOS #5124 kit comes with a 10lb. bottle.

A NOS #5124 kit comes with fuel/nitrous jets to produce a 50, 60, and 75-shot, but you can buy bigger jets to at least a 100-shot.

A shot is how much hp that is added at the CRANK, so that they can claim the same for both autos and manuals. How much you get to the wheels will be different depending on your transmission.
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Yes, the NOS #5124 kit comes with a 10lb. bottle.

A NOS #5124 kit comes with fuel/nitrous jets to produce a 50, 60, and 75-shot, but you can buy bigger jets to at least a 100-shot.

A shot is how much hp that is added at the CRANK, so that they can claim the same for both autos and manuals. How much you get to the wheels will be different depending on your transmission.
Manual transmission....

Will I have to upgrade my clutch? Am I going to fry it? BTW- how many sprays do you get per bottle? Do you just turn it on and off like a light switch or is it more like once it's goin, it's goin??
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Manual transmission....

Will I have to upgrade my clutch? Am I going to fry it? BTW- how many sprays do you get per bottle? Do you just turn it on and off like a light switch or is it more like once it's goin, it's goin??
Depending on how worn and how old your clutch is now will decide how long it lasts with nitrous use.
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So what kind of price are we talking here?
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So what kind of price are we talking here?
Didn't you see the prices?
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Manual transmission....

Will I have to upgrade my clutch? Am I going to fry it? BTW- how many sprays do you get per bottle? Do you just turn it on and off like a light switch or is it more like once it's goin, it's goin??
You shouldn't need to upgrade the clutch unless your spraying off the line. It seems like most people go with a "window switch" so it turns on at ~2400rpms and shuts off at ~6000rpms for 2, 3, and 4th gear only. I would ONLY spray in 2,3,4 gear, so your clutch should be able to handle it for awhile at least.

There are a couple different ways to set it up:
1)Button under gas pedal that activates the nitrous when you've turned on the "arm" switch and go WOT.
2)A button somewhere that you push with your hand to activate(FF style ).
3)A window switch that activates at certain rpms once the system has been armed(not sure if there is another switch for WOT).
4)Anything is possible with enough money such as multiple stages, computer adjustable size shots(Venom Kit), TPS WOT trigger(ZEX), etc.

The number of times you run depends on the size shot and the length of time you use it. ROUGHLY, 7-10 1/4-miles on a 10 lb. bottle. The nitrous supposedly runs anywhere from $3-5/lb to fill, but I have NO idea about here in AZ.
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Originally posted by Sin


Didn't you see the prices?
I saw prices for the NX wet kit, but then I saw a post saying NO, that we would be doing a dry manifold. I saw prices of 500 for a NOS kit, but that is an everyday price down the street or on line a NOS 5124. So I can't say I've seen a GD price.

Thanks for asking though
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I'd be interested.
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Remember people, in addition to the nitrous kit, you'll need gauges (fuel pressure gauge a must IMHO), perhaps a high flow fuel pump & fuel pressure regulator, and don't forget bottle accessories like a bottle heater (also a must IMHO), and perhaps a remote bottle opener. Everything added together can easily add up to $1000 or more.

For more a lot of info, search for the thread titled "NOS info for the masses."
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Originally posted by CalsonicSE
Remember people, in addition to the nitrous kit, you'll need gauges (fuel pressure gauge a must IMHO), perhaps a high flow fuel pump & fuel pressure regulator, and don't forget bottle accessories like a bottle heater (also a must IMHO), and perhaps a remote bottle opener. Everything added together can easily add up to $1000 or more.

For more a lot of info, search for the thread titled "NOS info for the masses."
Nah , your right but you only need that when you are running a 75-100 shot... if there going to run a 50 shot ..there fine, they wont need guages or fule pump...

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Nah , your right but you only need that when you are running a 75-100 shot... if there going to run a 50 shot ..there fine, they wont need guages or fule pump...

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For me, my stock fuel pump (80000 miles) couldn't hold enough pressure for a measly 50shot. Fuel pressure would drop as the RPMs rose. Fortunately, I had a fuel pressure gauge so I knew right away I was running way lean. Swapped in a high flow pump and no more probs. Just goes to show that you never know...even with a 50 shot.

Besides, I bet most people who start off with a 50shot will eventually move onto a bigger shot, so why not get the fuel pressure gauge?
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Stil no idea on a price for the mentioned kit?
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Finly some prices

OK guys ( and grls ) I finly got some prices... I got some Info on the ZEX and NX kits.... Im still waiting and working on the NOS kit


Zex kits for $460 and free US shipping with-in the 48 states.

If anyone is interested in the Nitrous Express EFI kits,
$485 and free shipping


If anyone is intrested let me know, im still working on trying to get a hook up on the NOS kits...


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Oh yeah

If you need any othere parts... Liek bottle heater...purge, guages, bottle opener... for any kit NX, ZEX, or NOS let me know and i will get you a price..


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Wasn't it last summer when J.C. Whitney had some ridiculous sale on the NOS kit? Something like $350? I wonder if that will happen again this year. BTW what is the NX EFI kit, why so much cheaper than the kits mentioned earlier in this thread?
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Wasn't it last summer when J.C. Whitney had some ridiculous sale on the NOS kit? Something like $350? I wonder if that will happen again this year. BTW what is the NX EFI kit, why so much cheaper than the kits mentioned earlier in this thread?
Yes there was one last year it wasent summer it was for spring... I so wish i would have been into speed at the time, i so would have jumped on that , i was waiting for it to happen this year, but it never did, who know they may have it in the summer, thats what im doing now is just trying to find a good price or find out when some places will have them on sale....the reason my prices are cheeper, on the Nx kit is becuase mine is not the D P Kit, thats much more $$$ you have to be really into cars, or speed, so invest in that kit...

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Yeah, I'm sure the J.C.W. kit will go on sale again directly AFTER I buy one. Thanx for the info on the NX kit, a lot of people on the orgy seem to give it high marks.
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Yeah, I'm sure the J.C.W. kit will go on sale again directly AFTER I buy one. Thanx for the info on the NX kit, a lot of people on the orgy seem to give it high marks.
yeah its a good kit alot of people are starting to want to try it out, no problem...im sorry about how your feel about always getting somthing and then a week later its on sale...it happens to everyone.. but sit on it for a week, untill your 100%


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