Top speed on 4th gen I30?
#41
Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
Sorry, but it is not possible.
#42
I know this is OTish, but how bout the 01 i30? I've taken it up to 200km/h (120mp/h) and have been too afriad to take it furthur b/c of speed limiter *IF I have one*
has anyone, or anyone you know taken a STOCK 2k1 i30 furthur?
has anyone, or anyone you know taken a STOCK 2k1 i30 furthur?
#44
Originally Posted by SLC I30t
Let me say this without offending anyone....
That has to be the worst thing you could do to your tires. PLEASE tell me you are not serious. You know you have steel belts in your tires.... You know what centrifical force is... You NOW know that you could've destroyed your tires. I hope you get the longevity and control that you were hoping to get out of those tires. I dont know if I would be taking any fast turns in that car with those tires.
That has to be the worst thing you could do to your tires. PLEASE tell me you are not serious. You know you have steel belts in your tires.... You know what centrifical force is... You NOW know that you could've destroyed your tires. I hope you get the longevity and control that you were hoping to get out of those tires. I dont know if I would be taking any fast turns in that car with those tires.
#45
Originally Posted by radi30
I know this is OTish, but how bout the 01 i30? I've taken it up to 200km/h (120mp/h) and have been too afriad to take it furthur b/c of speed limiter *IF I have one*
has anyone, or anyone you know taken a STOCK 2k1 i30 furthur?
has anyone, or anyone you know taken a STOCK 2k1 i30 furthur?
i have taken my 2000 i30t to about 125mph. havent tried any further yet.
#46
@I30tMikeD
Believe me, it`s true.
There was no problem to get the car above 240km/h or 150 mph.
In fact, gasoline in germany has normally 95-98 octane.
On some gas stations like shell you can get V-Power 100 octane gasoline. But with this you drive slower because the engine can`t regulate this and gets too hot.
Most of the time i drive 95 octane gas, thats the normal gasoline what most of the people use in europe.
I`ll make some photos for you.
With my old Honda concerto with an 4cyl. inline with 90hp I already drove 210km/h or 130mph.
In my opinion stock is better than some tuning. Since I have an other intake I never reached this speed again.
Think what you want, I saw the end of my gauge and an BMW 540i ( a friend of me, Gauge says 250km/h - speed limiter said "not more" ) on right side and then behind, getting smaller and smaller.
The Maximum speed in the papers for my car is 143 mph ( 230 km/h ).
Believe me, it`s true.
There was no problem to get the car above 240km/h or 150 mph.
In fact, gasoline in germany has normally 95-98 octane.
On some gas stations like shell you can get V-Power 100 octane gasoline. But with this you drive slower because the engine can`t regulate this and gets too hot.
Most of the time i drive 95 octane gas, thats the normal gasoline what most of the people use in europe.
I`ll make some photos for you.
With my old Honda concerto with an 4cyl. inline with 90hp I already drove 210km/h or 130mph.
In my opinion stock is better than some tuning. Since I have an other intake I never reached this speed again.
Think what you want, I saw the end of my gauge and an BMW 540i ( a friend of me, Gauge says 250km/h - speed limiter said "not more" ) on right side and then behind, getting smaller and smaller.
The Maximum speed in the papers for my car is 143 mph ( 230 km/h ).
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Originally Posted by lophix
what's not possible in this story if you dont mind my asking?
That being said it takes a lot of extra power to increase top speed. It's not like increasing 1/4 times. Even using a highe octane gas won't do it. In a stock maxima/130 there is no or very minimal gains using anything above 93 octane. I have my timming advanced through my JWT ECU and using 96-97 octane nets me an extra 1 or 2 tenths at the most in the 1/4 mile.
I am not sure about maximas in other countries but out speedometers only go to 140, so anything beyond that is just guessing and that is not to mention that at that kinda speed our speedometers are not that accurate.
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Originally Posted by SLC I30t
I agree the only way you are going to see a 150mph or faster 3 or 4th gen is if it is sling loaded onto a Chinook helicopter.
#55
for starters, a certain 3rd gen I know (stock motor at that) has topped out at 155mph (and there is a video of this as well.) But dragging him into this wouldn't serve any purpose other than to say "HA! I'm right, you're wrong!" which is NOT the case at all. We are both right by our observations and wrong as well.
you DO know that the top speed of the ve 3rd gen is 145 which makes it even more easier to set a target and hit.
In addition to that, my puny vg 3rd gen was at 135 and still had both pedal and some more to go. As is with everyone else, I have an excuse why i didnt go further: fear of deer. I have pics to prove as well but it will only trigger an onslaught of people attempting to record their record-breaking attempts thus putting theirs ( and other road-users') lives in danger. Of course our speedos aren't dead accurate but they are good approximations.
What I am saying is that not all vehicles are able to do this for the simple fact that NO TWO CARS are the same. There are too many factors to consider when running a test like the one C&D did: wind, driver, road conditions, vehicle conditions (vehicles do have good days and bad days,) etc) Thus their tests can be assumed as an approximate statistic and just that. It can be higher and it can be lower. Thus lumping ALL maximas and i30s/i35s into the same pot of "cannot exceed 141mph" is not based on a solid premise. If 20 well broken-in i30s and 20 well broken-in maximas were all run, I can more than assure you that the 141 mph supposed limit will be broken. btw visit my home page and say hello to my more than stock 211k miles 5speed vg.
you DO know that the top speed of the ve 3rd gen is 145 which makes it even more easier to set a target and hit.
In addition to that, my puny vg 3rd gen was at 135 and still had both pedal and some more to go. As is with everyone else, I have an excuse why i didnt go further: fear of deer. I have pics to prove as well but it will only trigger an onslaught of people attempting to record their record-breaking attempts thus putting theirs ( and other road-users') lives in danger. Of course our speedos aren't dead accurate but they are good approximations.
What I am saying is that not all vehicles are able to do this for the simple fact that NO TWO CARS are the same. There are too many factors to consider when running a test like the one C&D did: wind, driver, road conditions, vehicle conditions (vehicles do have good days and bad days,) etc) Thus their tests can be assumed as an approximate statistic and just that. It can be higher and it can be lower. Thus lumping ALL maximas and i30s/i35s into the same pot of "cannot exceed 141mph" is not based on a solid premise. If 20 well broken-in i30s and 20 well broken-in maximas were all run, I can more than assure you that the 141 mph supposed limit will be broken. btw visit my home page and say hello to my more than stock 211k miles 5speed vg.
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Originally Posted by lophix
for starters, a certain 3rd gen I know (stock motor at that) has topped out at 155mph (and there is a video of this as well.) But dragging him into this wouldn't serve any purpose other than to say "HA! I'm right, you're wrong!" which is NOT the case at all. We are both right by our observations and wrong as well.
you DO know that the top speed of the ve 3rd gen is 145 which makes it even more easier to set a target and hit.
In addition to that, my puny vg 3rd gen was at 135 and still had both pedal and some more to go. As is with everyone else, I have an excuse why i didnt go further: fear of deer. I have pics to prove as well but it will only trigger an onslaught of people attempting to record their record-breaking attempts thus putting theirs ( and other road-users') lives in danger. Of course our speedos aren't dead accurate but they are good approximations.
What I am saying is that not all vehicles are able to do this for the simple fact that NO TWO CARS are the same. There are too many factors to consider when running a test like the one C&D did: wind, driver, road conditions, vehicle conditions (vehicles do have good days and bad days,) etc) Thus their tests can be assumed as an approximate statistic and just that. It can be higher and it can be lower. Thus lumping ALL maximas and i30s/i35s into the same pot of "cannot exceed 141mph" is not based on a solid premise. If 20 well broken-in i30s and 20 well broken-in maximas were all run, I can more than assure you that the 141 mph supposed limit will be broken. btw visit my home page and say hello to my more than stock 211k miles 5speed vg.
you DO know that the top speed of the ve 3rd gen is 145 which makes it even more easier to set a target and hit.
In addition to that, my puny vg 3rd gen was at 135 and still had both pedal and some more to go. As is with everyone else, I have an excuse why i didnt go further: fear of deer. I have pics to prove as well but it will only trigger an onslaught of people attempting to record their record-breaking attempts thus putting theirs ( and other road-users') lives in danger. Of course our speedos aren't dead accurate but they are good approximations.
What I am saying is that not all vehicles are able to do this for the simple fact that NO TWO CARS are the same. There are too many factors to consider when running a test like the one C&D did: wind, driver, road conditions, vehicle conditions (vehicles do have good days and bad days,) etc) Thus their tests can be assumed as an approximate statistic and just that. It can be higher and it can be lower. Thus lumping ALL maximas and i30s/i35s into the same pot of "cannot exceed 141mph" is not based on a solid premise. If 20 well broken-in i30s and 20 well broken-in maximas were all run, I can more than assure you that the 141 mph supposed limit will be broken. btw visit my home page and say hello to my more than stock 211k miles 5speed vg.
I agree with what you say and believe that a 4th gen maxima can go faster than 140mph. The Car and Driver example was just that, an example. A 3rd gen, I really don't know. I don't have an expierence with them but I do know some had variable intake manifolds which gives them a top speed edge. What I don't believe is 160mph. 145 probably. 150 maybe with the right conditions, but 160+ no way.
#57
Originally Posted by 2000i30t
see above...
The only thing I can determine from your explanation is the the centrifugal force of the unloaded wheel will make the belts come through the tire and shred it. I can't imagine that to be the case as weight balancing a tire during mounting does about the same thing...
Please explain.
#58
I30tMikeD-Yeah I still have my I30, its a commuter car now, no nitrous no cefiro stuff. Just a check engine light thats on and the lowered springs.
Double E- a well balanced tire or not will still run the great chance of damage, why do you think that there is a revolution maximum that a tire is rated for? A single layer steel belt will narrow with centrifical force, the belts can bend and/or break giving a weak spot of the integrity of the tire. A loaded tire will hold its shape a lot better at higher revolutions. Its balance has nothing to do with potential damage. Its you life, do as you wish... I get paid better for trauma calls anyhow.
Iophix- I'm sure that a 3rd gen with which ever engine code that had the 190hp engine is a fast car and unless you were trapped with radar or better yet laser, you can boast and post your speeds with out having much fact. I used to have a picture of my car with the needle pegged well above 140 (I would estimate 150ish) but both the GPS and the SAFCII have my speed at 138. The analog calibration for most North American cars is to be dead ***** on acurate at 65mph. I don't really know the 100% truth to that, just something I was told by a friend (engineer) who is on a design team for AC Delco. There is also a equation that you can do to figure out what kind of power it takes for your car to reach certain speeds. I'll take a look to see if I can find it. But basically it just shows that it takes less power to push/pull a car with .20 drag coeff. than it does for a car that has a .21. That being said, the 4th gen maxima has a .32 and the I30 has a .31 and if my memory serves me correctly the 3rd gen had a .31
Double E- a well balanced tire or not will still run the great chance of damage, why do you think that there is a revolution maximum that a tire is rated for? A single layer steel belt will narrow with centrifical force, the belts can bend and/or break giving a weak spot of the integrity of the tire. A loaded tire will hold its shape a lot better at higher revolutions. Its balance has nothing to do with potential damage. Its you life, do as you wish... I get paid better for trauma calls anyhow.
Iophix- I'm sure that a 3rd gen with which ever engine code that had the 190hp engine is a fast car and unless you were trapped with radar or better yet laser, you can boast and post your speeds with out having much fact. I used to have a picture of my car with the needle pegged well above 140 (I would estimate 150ish) but both the GPS and the SAFCII have my speed at 138. The analog calibration for most North American cars is to be dead ***** on acurate at 65mph. I don't really know the 100% truth to that, just something I was told by a friend (engineer) who is on a design team for AC Delco. There is also a equation that you can do to figure out what kind of power it takes for your car to reach certain speeds. I'll take a look to see if I can find it. But basically it just shows that it takes less power to push/pull a car with .20 drag coeff. than it does for a car that has a .21. That being said, the 4th gen maxima has a .32 and the I30 has a .31 and if my memory serves me correctly the 3rd gen had a .31
#59
Originally Posted by Double E
I looked above and am trying to figure out your reasoning that running a jacked up tire to speed like I did will cause damage.
The only thing I can determine from your explanation is the the centrifugal force of the unloaded wheel will make the belts come through the tire and shred it. I can't imagine that to be the case as weight balancing a tire during mounting does about the same thing...
Please explain.
The only thing I can determine from your explanation is the the centrifugal force of the unloaded wheel will make the belts come through the tire and shred it. I can't imagine that to be the case as weight balancing a tire during mounting does about the same thing...
Please explain.
i didnt post that. i was speaking on the person who did.
#60
Double E- a well balanced tire or not will still run the great chance of damage, why do you think that there is a revolution maximum that a tire is rated for? A single layer steel belt will narrow with centrifical force, the belts can bend and/or break giving a weak spot of the integrity of the tire. A loaded tire will hold its shape a lot better at higher revolutions. Its balance has nothing to do with potential damage. Its you life, do as you wish... I get paid better for trauma calls anyhow.
SLC - Thanks. I was referring to the process of the tire shop balancing the tire when it's mounted. In that process, it spins (unloaded) to speed also with no problems.
However, as you indicate, nowhere near the speed that I took mine to while it was on the car & in the air. I don't make it a habit to do and the video captured worked out nicely. I appreciate your concern & don't plan to need it again.
As far a maximum revolution rating, it would seem that that speed rating of a tire is based on a loaded tire as opposed to unloaded. Because of that, I had the idea that it was a maximum safe vehicle handling speed rating: based more on tread design/depth, aspect ratio (or profile), sidewall strength, and internal belt twist configuration.
Let's suppose for a minute though that I do need another shot of the speedo resting against the little needle stopper on the right side. Would I be better off to remove the tire?
SLC - Thanks. I was referring to the process of the tire shop balancing the tire when it's mounted. In that process, it spins (unloaded) to speed also with no problems.
However, as you indicate, nowhere near the speed that I took mine to while it was on the car & in the air. I don't make it a habit to do and the video captured worked out nicely. I appreciate your concern & don't plan to need it again.
As far a maximum revolution rating, it would seem that that speed rating of a tire is based on a loaded tire as opposed to unloaded. Because of that, I had the idea that it was a maximum safe vehicle handling speed rating: based more on tread design/depth, aspect ratio (or profile), sidewall strength, and internal belt twist configuration.
Let's suppose for a minute though that I do need another shot of the speedo resting against the little needle stopper on the right side. Would I be better off to remove the tire?
#63
Originally Posted by CreativeDesignz
i have an auto and have gone 140+ the needle was past the 140 thats all i know
Many auto 4th gens have gone over 127 mph... Tim96I30t is just likes to dig up old threads so he can make a fool out of himself by talking about things he knows nothing about.
#69
Originally Posted by Fr33way
160mph in a 1st gen I30? Man I have to check in this forum more often.
BTW are you hotshots taking speedometer error into account at all?
BTW are you hotshots taking speedometer error into account at all?
#70
Originally Posted by cefiro8701
i've done well over 127....im never doing that again...but i've done it.
These cars are just not ment to go that fast... they really start to feel unstable around 110 mph.
Here in CO if you are caught driving double the speed limit or over 100 mph (the lesser of the two), you get your license revoked on the spot!! As a result, I rarely take it over 90 mph.
#71
STOCK 127 auto/139 manual - Nissan specs.
Originally Posted by i30ds
I don't doubt it. I did it myself when I was auto.
Many auto 4th gens have gone over 127 mph... Tim96I30t is just likes to dig up old threads so he can make a fool out of himself by talking about things he knows nothing about.
Many auto 4th gens have gone over 127 mph... Tim96I30t is just likes to dig up old threads so he can make a fool out of himself by talking about things he knows nothing about.
#73
Originally Posted by Tim96I30t
You are obviously beyond help, if you don't like the post ignore it. You are a true loser with many problems, and following all my posts thats just plain pathetic.
#74
My 95 GXE topped out at 115 coming back from Amish country, but the fastest the I30t has gone has been 100 on the expressway(thought I saw a light bar).
#75
GXE's have limiters on them at 115 however i haven't tried mine out yet All you guys with the i30s, no matter what the top speed is just be safe about it! (if you can at 130mph+)
#77
Originally Posted by i30ds
These cars are just not ment to go that fast... they really start to feel unstable around 110 mph.
Here in CO if you are caught driving double the speed limit or over 100 mph (the lesser of the two), you get your license revoked on the spot!! As a result, I rarely take it over 90 mph.
actually my i30 held pretty well...if it werent for the nasty tires i woudlve topped it but i could tell traction was being lost...so i stopped...
but like i said...never again on a public freeway.
#78
Originally Posted by cefiro8701
actually my i30 held pretty well...if it werent for the nasty tires i woudlve topped it but i could tell traction was being lost...so i stopped...
but like i said...never again on a public freeway.
but like i said...never again on a public freeway.
#79
what's wrong with you guys O_o. i don't think i've gone over 100 yet...i'm scared as hell getting a speeding ticket. what would i say if i get pulled over? "ehhh hi officer, i didn't know i was going over 100, i guess my foot slipped 4-5 times". what rpm were you guys at to keep the speed stable at 115mph?
#80
Originally Posted by lawrencel715
what's wrong with you guys O_o. i don't think i've gone over 100 yet...i'm scared as hell getting a speeding ticket. what would i say if i get pulled over? "ehhh hi officer, i didn't know i was going over 100, i guess my foot slipped 4-5 times". what rpm were you guys at to keep the speed stable at 115mph?
The rmps at that will speed vary from AT to MT. I would say that AT in 4th gear w/ torque converter locked is around 4500 rmps. MT in 5th gear is around 5500 rpms. That is atleast my observation.