Turbo???
#1
Turbo???
hey i found this
http://www.importperformanceparts.ne...ec_nissan.html
it says it will work on the cefiro but its unclear of what year and which model it would work on. i know stillen makes a supercharger for my model car but im trying to weed out sum other performance parts and i came accross these would they work on my car?
http://www.importperformanceparts.ne...ec_nissan.html
it says it will work on the cefiro but its unclear of what year and which model it would work on. i know stillen makes a supercharger for my model car but im trying to weed out sum other performance parts and i came accross these would they work on my car?
#2
Dude i think thats for some old cefiros, i dont know what year they switched things but i would guess it was 3rd gen max's or before. All newer i30s are vq30s or vq35 engines. That would be cool though, its more in my price range.
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Originally Posted by I30_DRIVER
Um you can go to custommaxima.com they sell a turbo kits for a32...
for sure..
but i thing s/c is the better way to go vortech 8 lbs of boost is plenty and no need to lower any compression or wait for that turbo to kick in.
for sure..
but i thing s/c is the better way to go vortech 8 lbs of boost is plenty and no need to lower any compression or wait for that turbo to kick in.
The only other advantage a SC max has over a turbo max besides price is that the stillen SC kit is fairly simple while a turbo set up gets a little messy trying to fit all the required piping.
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well i would be more inclined to get a turbo because its only relying on whats being produced instead of being powering by ur alternator if you know what i mean. i think most on this board with agree with me on the grounds that any significant increase in hp is worth it. u can only get so much from air filter and intakes and exhaust systems. frankly i think the sc kit is way over priced, and like many we dont have 3k laying around that we can blow. so im just looking some other methods of a noticable hp increase.
so these def wont work?
so these def wont work?
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brawhhahahaha i found a turbo and its better then the sc
http://www.turbo-kits.com/maxima_turbo_kits.html
300+hp safely on a stock engine, just alittle more then the sc i beleieve, and its all around better because most of us arent in the high RPM's daily, so the turbo is more efficient Brawhahahhaha now i think this settles some disputes that we have had over time
http://www.turbo-kits.com/maxima_turbo_kits.html
300+hp safely on a stock engine, just alittle more then the sc i beleieve, and its all around better because most of us arent in the high RPM's daily, so the turbo is more efficient Brawhahahhaha now i think this settles some disputes that we have had over time
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Originally Posted by CrystalClearI30
brawhhahahaha i found a turbo and its better then the sc
http://www.turbo-kits.com/maxima_turbo_kits.html
300+hp safely on a stock engine, just alittle more then the sc i beleieve, and its all around better because most of us arent in the high RPM's daily, so the turbo is more efficient Brawhahahhaha now i think this settles some disputes that we have had over time
http://www.turbo-kits.com/maxima_turbo_kits.html
300+hp safely on a stock engine, just alittle more then the sc i beleieve, and its all around better because most of us arent in the high RPM's daily, so the turbo is more efficient Brawhahahhaha now i think this settles some disputes that we have had over time
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This topic has been discussed som many times, on so many different boards I can't believe this still comes up.
the difference between 10lbs of boost from a SC and 10 lbs of boost from a turbo is nil. Boost is Boost.
The advantage of a turbo is not really its abidactic effeciency, but how easy it is to change the boost. With the right set-up you could run 5 psi around town, then with the flip of a switch be running 10. It also easy to overboost your engine this way, but lets face it. You have to be smart about this stuff.
The only way to increase boost on an SC is by changing pulley diameters.
the difference between 10lbs of boost from a SC and 10 lbs of boost from a turbo is nil. Boost is Boost.
The advantage of a turbo is not really its abidactic effeciency, but how easy it is to change the boost. With the right set-up you could run 5 psi around town, then with the flip of a switch be running 10. It also easy to overboost your engine this way, but lets face it. You have to be smart about this stuff.
The only way to increase boost on an SC is by changing pulley diameters.
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Originally Posted by Marx
This topic has been discussed som many times, on so many different boards I can't believe this still comes up.
the difference between 10lbs of boost from a SC and 10 lbs of boost from a turbo is nil. Boost is Boost.
The advantage of a turbo is not really its abidactic effeciency, but how easy it is to change the boost. With the right set-up you could run 5 psi around town, then with the flip of a switch be running 10. It also easy to overboost your engine this way, but lets face it. You have to be smart about this stuff.
The only way to increase boost on an SC is by changing pulley diameters.
the difference between 10lbs of boost from a SC and 10 lbs of boost from a turbo is nil. Boost is Boost.
The advantage of a turbo is not really its abidactic effeciency, but how easy it is to change the boost. With the right set-up you could run 5 psi around town, then with the flip of a switch be running 10. It also easy to overboost your engine this way, but lets face it. You have to be smart about this stuff.
The only way to increase boost on an SC is by changing pulley diameters.
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
We are talking about maxima's, well I30's, here and SC boost is not the same as turbo boost. With the one Votech SC available to us, full boost is not made until red line. A turbo will let you make full boost way, way, before that. Without a very expensive rebuild by vortech (almost the same price as the blower originally cost) all the boost you can run is 13 or 14 lbs until the the blower is over spun at 6500 rpms. I am not an expert on the subject by any means, but what is available to max/I30 owners does not suggest that SC boost and turbo boost are the same.
For example, if you do a dyno run and both the SC and Turbo at a max of 10 psi, the peak HP will be about the same, and it will peak up near the top of the RPM limit. Besides, an SC is linked directly to the Engine ergo, the faster the RPM, the more boost, so every SC will build the most boost when it spins the fastest. ...Until, like you mentioned, you over spin a Vortech style SC to where it spins so fast it stops making boost, cavitation I believe.
Anyway.
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Originally Posted by Marx
You're absolutly right. Which is why Turbo's are the better choice. But I was not considering how soon you build boost, rather dyno numbers and peak HP. Assuming RPM and Boost are equal, a combustion chamber doesn't care if the 12psi of air rushing in came from a Turbo or an SC.
For example, if you do a dyno run and both the SC and Turbo at a max of 10 psi, the peak HP will be about the same, and it will peak up near the top of the RPM limit. Besides, an SC is linked directly to the Engine ergo, the faster the RPM, the more boost, so every SC will build the most boost when it spins the fastest. ...Until, like you mentioned, you over spin a Vortech style SC to where it spins so fast it stops making boost, cavitation I believe.
Anyway.
For example, if you do a dyno run and both the SC and Turbo at a max of 10 psi, the peak HP will be about the same, and it will peak up near the top of the RPM limit. Besides, an SC is linked directly to the Engine ergo, the faster the RPM, the more boost, so every SC will build the most boost when it spins the fastest. ...Until, like you mentioned, you over spin a Vortech style SC to where it spins so fast it stops making boost, cavitation I believe.
Anyway.
A roots type blower will make peak boost much earlier then the type vortech has for maxima's. But peak hp does not mean a whole lot, it's all about the most hp under the curve. A turbo will give much more total power under the curve then will the stillen SC. The peak power that the vortec is making for maxima's is not real useable power because it's only the last couple hundred rpms.
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Originally Posted by CrystalClearI30
just another side question, does having a turbo or sc help with ur fuel economy at all? does it increase it? decrease it?
More air, more fuel, less gas mileage.
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