Infiniti I30/I35 Similar to a Maxima, yet not really a Maxima. Discussion forum on Nissan's luxury model, the Infiniti I30/I35

Turbo???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-06-2004, 07:00 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
CrystalClearI30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 58
Turbo???

hey i found this

http://www.importperformanceparts.ne...ec_nissan.html


it says it will work on the cefiro but its unclear of what year and which model it would work on. i know stillen makes a supercharger for my model car but im trying to weed out sum other performance parts and i came accross these would they work on my car?
CrystalClearI30 is offline  
Old 04-06-2004, 08:58 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Karkov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 133
Dude i think thats for some old cefiros, i dont know what year they switched things but i would guess it was 3rd gen max's or before. All newer i30s are vq30s or vq35 engines. That would be cool though, its more in my price range.
Karkov is offline  
Old 04-06-2004, 08:59 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
I30_DRIVER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 320
Um you can go to custommaxima.com they sell a turbo kits for a32...
for sure..
but i thing s/c is the better way to go vortech 8 lbs of boost is plenty and no need to lower any compression or wait for that turbo to kick in.
I30_DRIVER is offline  
Old 04-06-2004, 09:01 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
I30_DRIVER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 320
and the kit is for the euro model the 2.0 engine v6
dont know if would fit????
I30_DRIVER is offline  
Old 04-06-2004, 09:09 PM
  #5  
Moderator who thinks he is better than us with his I30
iTrader: (8)
 
I30tMikeD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 9,335
That is not a kit for a 3.0 VQ and the turbo is too small for our engines anyhow.
I30tMikeD is offline  
Old 04-06-2004, 09:15 PM
  #6  
Moderator who thinks he is better than us with his I30
iTrader: (8)
 
I30tMikeD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 9,335
Originally Posted by I30_DRIVER
Um you can go to custommaxima.com they sell a turbo kits for a32...
for sure..
but i thing s/c is the better way to go vortech 8 lbs of boost is plenty and no need to lower any compression or wait for that turbo to kick in.
the only advatange to going with stillen's votech SC is that it is cheaper. A basic used SC set up can be had for $2k. There is no need to lower the compression on a turbo maxima unless you want more than 10lbs of boost. And 10lbs of turbo boost is much more power than 10lbs of SC boost because turbos are much more efficient. As far as waiting for the turbo to spool, that all depends on the type of turbo you use. There are many turbos that will give you full boost by 3500 rpms if you want it that way.

The only other advantage a SC max has over a turbo max besides price is that the stillen SC kit is fairly simple while a turbo set up gets a little messy trying to fit all the required piping.
I30tMikeD is offline  
Old 04-07-2004, 09:44 AM
  #7  
BUY MY CARS PLEASE!!!
 
pawnstar12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 946
SC's can suck my tail pipe
pawnstar12 is offline  
Old 04-07-2004, 02:50 PM
  #8  
Member
Thread Starter
 
CrystalClearI30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 58
well i would be more inclined to get a turbo because its only relying on whats being produced instead of being powering by ur alternator if you know what i mean. i think most on this board with agree with me on the grounds that any significant increase in hp is worth it. u can only get so much from air filter and intakes and exhaust systems. frankly i think the sc kit is way over priced, and like many we dont have 3k laying around that we can blow. so im just looking some other methods of a noticable hp increase.


so these def wont work?
CrystalClearI30 is offline  
Old 04-07-2004, 03:16 PM
  #9  
BUY MY CARS PLEASE!!!
 
pawnstar12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 946
that is correct they wont
pawnstar12 is offline  
Old 04-07-2004, 03:31 PM
  #10  
Member
Thread Starter
 
CrystalClearI30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 58
well here you go u 5 speed i30 years 96-00 turbo kit
CrystalClearI30 is offline  
Old 04-07-2004, 03:38 PM
  #11  
Member
Thread Starter
 
CrystalClearI30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 58
brawhhahahaha i found a turbo and its better then the sc

http://www.turbo-kits.com/maxima_turbo_kits.html

300+hp safely on a stock engine, just alittle more then the sc i beleieve, and its all around better because most of us arent in the high RPM's daily, so the turbo is more efficient Brawhahahhaha now i think this settles some disputes that we have had over time
CrystalClearI30 is offline  
Old 04-07-2004, 03:50 PM
  #12  
BUY MY CARS PLEASE!!!
 
pawnstar12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 946
the disputes were settled a while ago, sc's are for the noobs to forced induction or torque junkies. they cant run with my turbo at 6psi unless they are at 10psi or pumpin the go fast juice
pawnstar12 is offline  
Old 04-07-2004, 03:53 PM
  #13  
Member
Thread Starter
 
CrystalClearI30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 58
o sorry i didnt know i been following along for a while, i wasnt aware my bad
CrystalClearI30 is offline  
Old 04-07-2004, 04:07 PM
  #14  
Moderator who thinks he is better than us with his I30
iTrader: (8)
 
I30tMikeD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 9,335
Originally Posted by CrystalClearI30
brawhhahahaha i found a turbo and its better then the sc

http://www.turbo-kits.com/maxima_turbo_kits.html

300+hp safely on a stock engine, just alittle more then the sc i beleieve, and its all around better because most of us arent in the high RPM's daily, so the turbo is more efficient Brawhahahhaha now i think this settles some disputes that we have had over time
WTF are you talking about?
I30tMikeD is offline  
Old 04-07-2004, 04:26 PM
  #15  
BUY MY CARS PLEASE!!!
 
pawnstar12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 946
Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
WTF are you talking about?

lol......................ha ha
pawnstar12 is offline  
Old 04-07-2004, 04:49 PM
  #16  
Member
Thread Starter
 
CrystalClearI30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 58
thats what the specs said, i dont really know much about this, im just trying to learn it
CrystalClearI30 is offline  
Old 04-08-2004, 12:34 PM
  #17  
Newbie - Just Registered
 
Marx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 2
This topic has been discussed som many times, on so many different boards I can't believe this still comes up.
the difference between 10lbs of boost from a SC and 10 lbs of boost from a turbo is nil. Boost is Boost.

The advantage of a turbo is not really its abidactic effeciency, but how easy it is to change the boost. With the right set-up you could run 5 psi around town, then with the flip of a switch be running 10. It also easy to overboost your engine this way, but lets face it. You have to be smart about this stuff.

The only way to increase boost on an SC is by changing pulley diameters.
Marx is offline  
Old 04-08-2004, 02:13 PM
  #18  
Moderator who thinks he is better than us with his I30
iTrader: (8)
 
I30tMikeD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 9,335
Originally Posted by Marx
This topic has been discussed som many times, on so many different boards I can't believe this still comes up.
the difference between 10lbs of boost from a SC and 10 lbs of boost from a turbo is nil. Boost is Boost.

The advantage of a turbo is not really its abidactic effeciency, but how easy it is to change the boost. With the right set-up you could run 5 psi around town, then with the flip of a switch be running 10. It also easy to overboost your engine this way, but lets face it. You have to be smart about this stuff.

The only way to increase boost on an SC is by changing pulley diameters.
We are talking about maxima's, well I30's, here and SC boost is not the same as turbo boost. With the one Votech SC available to us, full boost is not made until red line. A turbo will let you make full boost way, way, before that. Without a very expensive rebuild by vortech (almost the same price as the blower originally cost) all the boost you can run is 13 or 14 lbs until the the blower is over spun at 6500 rpms. I am not an expert on the subject by any means, but what is available to max/I30 owners does not suggest that SC boost and turbo boost are the same.
I30tMikeD is offline  
Old 04-09-2004, 01:30 PM
  #19  
Newbie - Just Registered
 
Marx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 2
Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
We are talking about maxima's, well I30's, here and SC boost is not the same as turbo boost. With the one Votech SC available to us, full boost is not made until red line. A turbo will let you make full boost way, way, before that. Without a very expensive rebuild by vortech (almost the same price as the blower originally cost) all the boost you can run is 13 or 14 lbs until the the blower is over spun at 6500 rpms. I am not an expert on the subject by any means, but what is available to max/I30 owners does not suggest that SC boost and turbo boost are the same.
You're absolutly right. Which is why Turbo's are the better choice. But I was not considering how soon you build boost, rather dyno numbers and peak HP. Assuming RPM and Boost are equal, a combustion chamber doesn't care if the 12psi of air rushing in came from a Turbo or an SC.

For example, if you do a dyno run and both the SC and Turbo at a max of 10 psi, the peak HP will be about the same, and it will peak up near the top of the RPM limit. Besides, an SC is linked directly to the Engine ergo, the faster the RPM, the more boost, so every SC will build the most boost when it spins the fastest. ...Until, like you mentioned, you over spin a Vortech style SC to where it spins so fast it stops making boost, cavitation I believe.


Anyway.
Marx is offline  
Old 04-09-2004, 09:30 PM
  #20  
Member
Thread Starter
 
CrystalClearI30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 58
just another side question, does having a turbo or sc help with ur fuel economy at all? does it increase it? decrease it?
CrystalClearI30 is offline  
Old 04-09-2004, 09:38 PM
  #21  
Moderator who thinks he is better than us with his I30
iTrader: (8)
 
I30tMikeD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 9,335
Originally Posted by Marx
You're absolutly right. Which is why Turbo's are the better choice. But I was not considering how soon you build boost, rather dyno numbers and peak HP. Assuming RPM and Boost are equal, a combustion chamber doesn't care if the 12psi of air rushing in came from a Turbo or an SC.

For example, if you do a dyno run and both the SC and Turbo at a max of 10 psi, the peak HP will be about the same, and it will peak up near the top of the RPM limit. Besides, an SC is linked directly to the Engine ergo, the faster the RPM, the more boost, so every SC will build the most boost when it spins the fastest. ...Until, like you mentioned, you over spin a Vortech style SC to where it spins so fast it stops making boost, cavitation I believe.


Anyway.

A roots type blower will make peak boost much earlier then the type vortech has for maxima's. But peak hp does not mean a whole lot, it's all about the most hp under the curve. A turbo will give much more total power under the curve then will the stillen SC. The peak power that the vortec is making for maxima's is not real useable power because it's only the last couple hundred rpms.
I30tMikeD is offline  
Old 04-09-2004, 09:39 PM
  #22  
Moderator who thinks he is better than us with his I30
iTrader: (8)
 
I30tMikeD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 9,335
Originally Posted by CrystalClearI30
just another side question, does having a turbo or sc help with ur fuel economy at all? does it increase it? decrease it?

More air, more fuel, less gas mileage.
I30tMikeD is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
litch
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
123
01-04-2024 07:01 PM
aw11power
Supercharged/Turbocharged
161
10-10-2021 04:57 AM
BkGreen97
Maximas for Sale / Wanted
2
04-02-2016 05:47 AM
09maxshawn11
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
5
09-30-2015 10:28 AM
Keyno McMike
3rd Generation Maxima (1989-1994)
1
09-21-2015 07:18 AM



Quick Reply: Turbo???



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:58 AM.