i30ds

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Well, it has begun!! I decided to go a head and install my manual pedals eventhough I am still waiting for my fidanza flywheel to ship. Logically, this was the first thing I would want to do as I can still drive my car to minimize down time.

Also, this was the hardest part in my opinion, so I wanted to get it out of the way. The quarters are close to say the least, and drilling through the fire wall is very time consuming. Not to mention the razor sharp steering wheel support bracket that must be removed in order to get the auto brake pedal/bracket out cut my hands up pretty good.

Now I know that pulling and installing the tranny will be the MOST time consuming, but the actual work involved is not as difficult as installing the pedals (I helped my friend pull the tranny on his 96 twice, and this was more difficult).

First, I removed the seat (only 4 bolts and a couple of connectors), the steering wheel trim, lower dash panel and the metal bracket behind it, the trim around the gauge cluster and pulled the cluster out (but left it connected), and the 4 nuts that support the steering wheel up. I used a jsck stand to support the wheel so that way it would not be just hanging there bottoming out and possibly causing some damge.



Now with all this stuff out of the way I now had enough room to remove the auto brake pedal/bracket. In order to do this I also had to remove the left steering wheel support bracket which is held in place by 3 nuts, and 2 of them require access through the cluster area which is why I removed it. With that out of the way, the brake pedal was only 4 nuts and a couple of connectors (but the 4 nuts can be a b!tch to get at).



I now had enough room to drill through the fire wall for the clutch master cylinder. I bought a right angle adapter for $35 from home depot (drilling in this tight of an area would have been IMPOSSIBLE with out it and I dont know how the other guys could have done it).



I also bought a STEP bit for $10 from home depot (I dont know why the hal write up called it a 'tree' bit). If you are thinking about just using a 3/8 bit (the size of the two holes for the studs that come from the clutch pedal bracket through the fire wall), forget it!! I tried to do this but the bit is too long, even with the right angle adapter. You need the step bit which gets progressively bigger as you go down the bit.

i30ds

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For the hole for the mater cylinder I used a 1-1/2 hole saw bit (once again, I dont know why the hal called a cylinder bit). This is the exact size for the master cylinder.



With all this, I drilled my holes (sorry I for got to take pics), and mounted the cluch pedal and the master cylinder. I know the master looks off center, but the holes lined up perfectly from the inside and the pedal bracket mounted up to the other factory bolt holes (that were previously unused) perfectly as well. This makes me think that the insulation in the engine bay is what is off (for some reason or another). It is moot point regardless.





Finally, I put the brake pedal in a long with the left steering wheel support bracket (I dont know why the hal threw his away, with out it your steering wheel is only half way supported), and put everything back together. The clutch pedal is NOT attached to the master cylinder in these pics (I have a new one on order), and this is why the clutch pedal sticks out more than it should.



Leave any comments...

Gates

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Nice! Looks like you are taking all the steps and doing everything right. How long before you get your flywheel and finish the project? I really wish I could do this but I don't want to invest anymore in my car.....

i30ds

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The fly wheel is the only thing holding me up. It is on back order and had an expected ship date of 5-13 when I ordered it on 4-15. Now the ship date has been pushed back to 5-26!! It makes me wanna go berzerk!!

sk24iam

Pics look great. I'm jealous.

Nismo3112

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Mmmmm..... AE pedals...

Pumped_2005

Wish i could convert to manual, no parts available to do so here though

Zack342

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i can confirm this. the pedals look alot better than when i sent them to you.

I miss that 1996 ECU

i30ds

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Yeah, I took off all the rust down to the bear metal on the pedals and the shift rods with a wire brush disc thing on the end of my drill. Then I repainted them using black rust elimintator enamel... the look brand new!! Plus, the AE pedals add a nice touch.

Dont worry about that ECU, you will find one soon enough.

Zack342

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looks really good though. i think that will be the hardest part of your install.
you know installing the tranny is cake and the shift rods should now be a problem.i think getting the lines in may be a bit tricky but you be able to get it done.

i30ds

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Yeah, I am going to try to install the lines while the tranny is out of the car so I have a little more room to work with. Other than that the tranny and the shift rods will definitely be a piece of cake. I figure that one I get my fly wheel in, I'll put the car up on some jack stands and I should get the whole thing done in under 3 days provided I dont get caught up any where (which will probably happen).

killerVQ30DE

Have you got a pic of where you cut the hole, I know it only goes 1 place but I'd like to see it

I'm doing the swap too, can you prepare for the clutch pedal install and still have the car drivealbe as automatic?

DAVE Sz

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Is this a 5th gen LSD or just a i30t lsd?

Stephen Max

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It is a whole lot easier to leave the auto brake pedal in and just trim the pedal down to size with a saber saw. Once you put the pedal cover on, no one can tell the difference.

guysohigh

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sweet, keep us all posted

i30ds

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Sorry, but I forgot to take pics of the fire wall with the holes drilled in it. I got kinda wrapped up in the installation during that part. And yes, the car drives perfectly fine with the manual pedals on.

i30ds

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I will be installing a brand new 4th gen LSD tranny that I got from infiniti of scottsdale for $1500. The thing supposedly has many revised parts and should not suffer from the sh!tty bearings, but who knows.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....t=brand+tranny

I know that the 5th gen AE tranny is supposedly a stronger unit with a better 3rd gear, but I could never get a straight answer from any one on what would be required to make it work in the 4th gen.

attomica

I know it's a little late, but for future reference and for anyone else who may not know about them, several powertool manufacturers make what's called a right angle drill. These are designed for close quarters work and would be great for firewall drilling. I have one and love it. Those adapters like the one you got are good, but require two hands, which I guess isn't necessarily a bad thing, but one hand is better so you can support/stabilize your work or yourself.



Great job on the swap!

I30tMikeD

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Nice progress. Can't wait to see more pics.

DAVE Sz

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Spending $1500 on a mediocre LSD is a waste to me. Why not get the 2k1 instead? Same mediocre LSD but stronger. Where was it that you didn't get straight answers? The forums here have several threads about the 5th gen trans being better.

i30ds

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If the LSD is so mediocre on both, then what would you have prefered? Buy a new open differential tranny and then drop in that rip off quife LSD? That would have been over $3000... that seems like a waste to me. The only advantage that I can see the AE has over what I got is the different 3rd gear, and that aint much compared to avoiding situations like this:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=404826


Threads about fuccers gloating about the thing are not the same as threads about getting it to work in a 4th gen...

DAVE Sz

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Getting it to work on a 4th gen? It's a straight swap, you just need LSD axles which I would guess you'd need witht eh 4th gen LSD trans as well.

NOCturnalI30

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Hay can the 200+ 5 speed their cars? Has anyone here done it?

Zack342

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Don't worry Devin i wouldn't pay to much attention to Dave. Work looks awesome so far and i doubt you will have problems with that tranny. I got my 1996 Maxima Ecu today and sending it out to JWT tomorrow and my MEVI is on its way in. I will have some pic for you too.

i30ds

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Awsome! I look forward to seeing them. You sure got that ecu quickly. Did you get the mevi kit from courtesy?

Zack342

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Well i got an ECU from JeffersonM on here and the MEVI I purchased with install components from JAY25.

Courtesy is a bit more expensive but i know a place you can get it for $395+ shipping new.

vsamoylov

sweet man. keep us updated. i remember how much fun it was for me to take off the auto brake pedal. also did you get a ss clutch line from the gd?

kcryan

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god im jealous

i30ds

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Nice. Keep me updated with the install on that stuff.

i30ds

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Will do. Unfortunately, I did not get ss clutch lines. Did you get em?

Luigi38

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Damn dude, I didn't even know you were doing a 5sp swap ( what a headache).
Good job, keep us posted.

i30ds

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Yup... It is actually not that bad at all (well, maybe for some, but I actually enjoy this type of stuff. It is sort of a hobby).

NewLoveI30

Oh man... Im soooo envious. I wish I had the funds to do this... Instead, I get to repair 2k worth of damage this summer from a hit and run. I would much rather sepend the money on a 5-speed swap... or a down payment on the bike Ive been wanting

keep up the good work, post pics along the way.

killerVQ30DE

Any update.. I'm doing the swap next month.. keen to hear about any pitfalls... planning to do it this way

1. swap my foot e-brake for normal hand e-brake
* keep it driveable
2. Install the clutch pedals etc
* keep it driveable
3. drop the auto and install manual transaxle with console bits
* starting shifting

I hope that timeline is practical

i30ds

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No update so far... I am still waiting for my fidanza flywheel. I ordered in over 5 weeks ago...

i30ds

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Thanks.

BTW is your accident the reason why you dont wanna come to a CO meet?

juani

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looks very clean. I'm actually done with bolting on everything and on the process of bleeding the clutch system. but it pi$$es me off, since it creates no pressure what so ever. i've been bleeding the clutch for 5 hours today and nothing. There's no leak found on the hydralic lines. So I'm suspecting master or slave cylinder, since they're were bought used. I actually changed out two used master or slave cylinder, but still no good. I have new master cylinder in hand so i'll try that tomorrow and see how it goes. Good luck with your freaking hydralic system.

i30ds

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Since I bought new master and slave cylinders, this hpefully wont be an issue, but I am still expecting to have to bleed the hell outta the system.

juani

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do yourself a favor and get a speed bleeder or vacuum bleeder if you don't have one.
the old classic method only works with very little air in the system. So right now i'm trying to find a SS cluch line that I can connect directly from master cylinder to slave cylinder to save some bleeding and tighter cluch pedal.

i30ds

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Wasnt there a GD on such a line? I have looked for it in there, but I cant seem to find it.