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My 97 SE 5spd - New 17x9 FN01RCs

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I'm amazed how much higher my car looks in pictures! I'm on Eibachs which look pretty nice IMO, but these pics look like a friggin monster truck!





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Whatcha guys think?
Personally, I love them. I kinda want the back out a little bit more tho...maybe a 5-10mm spacer in the back?

and yes, my old wheels and tires have been sitting there, in my driveway, for almost a week now. I should probably put those in the garage eh?
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They look horrible. Toss 'em over in my direction and put the stockers back on.

Also give the fronts a bit of camber.
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
They look horrible. Toss 'em over in my direction and put the stockers back on.

Also give the fronts a bit of camber.
Horrible eh? I thought Mr. "no bigger than 17" would be with me on this one! haha there's no way in hell I'm letting these go.

And alignment is in the plans. I was supposed to this coming weekend, but that's not gonna work. Sometime soon tho.

I'll give the fronts a little neg camber, but not so much that my tires will get pwned.

What do you think about some spacers in the back?

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+1 on that front camber BUT you dont want to wear down those T1Rs too quickly now. 10mm in the rears and youre good to roll. a slight poke all around is what youre aiming for Looks good Mowgli.

btw what size tires you wrapping?
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255/40-17. They were the lightest tire I could find that didn't cost me and arm or leg. No complaints so far, I'm just waiting to see how they wear...

I can't wait to get some SFC's on this bish and really push these tires.
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wear should be excellent for how these tires perform. i wouldnt be concerned with that at all. stiffen up those Illuminas and push those tires!
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Originally Posted by mowgli29
Horrible eh? I thought Mr. "no bigger than 17" would be with me on this one! haha there's no way in hell I'm letting these go.
looks good dude.

I'll give the fronts a little neg camber, but not so much that my tires will get pwned.
Bah.. be a man!

What do you think about some spacers in the back?
10mm would do you well.
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
looks good dude.
Thanks man! I knew you were secretly envious


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Bah.. be a man!


It's not the being a man I have a problem with, it's the being poor from buying tires....premature wear FTL!

(I've already got almost 800 miles on these things in one week!)


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10mm would do you well.
Should I avoid ebay crap and get eibach, ichiba, or H&R? I have too many other mods to do (SFC, WBO2, AFC, etc.) before I drop 70+ bucks on spacers

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Originally Posted by Mr****s95SE
wear should be excellent for how these tires perform. i wouldnt be concerned with that at all. stiffen up those Illuminas and push those tires!
Already beat you to it! For dailing driving, illuminas are on 5 all the way around. I only soften them for taking the g/f on a date

Also, I drove in the rain yesterday, as you can see in the pics, and they seem to perform nicely. I'm wondering if they'll be as good as the BFG's were...time will tell!
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looking good.were you on stock before these.?
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nope. I was on some 17's from an Altima. ('04 i think)

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they look better when they are not on the car. black out your tails, the Dallas mod. Dont really know why they call it that
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Looks great. I've always liked those rims and I'd get those in silver if were in the market now.

Why are you considering spacers? For looks or to increase the rear track width? Or both? Just curious.
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Originally Posted by SoMarvelus
they look better when they are not on the car. black out your tails, the Dallas mod. Dont really know why they call it that
Had that planned before I purchased the wheels. I just need to buy a set of outside red/clears first. I'll be needing the the clear version of the OEM type reflector, not the ghetto kind I dremeled when I did the red/clear mod.
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
Looks great. I've always liked those rims and I'd get those in silver if were in the market now.

Why are you considering spacers? For looks or to increase the rear track width? Or both? Just curious.
Thanks man. Yeah I like them in silver too, I just thought it was a bit to bright to go with my car, especially after the tint and having black trim and all.

I'm just considering the spacers for looks, I don't like how the rear wheels aren't as flush. It wouldn't make much sense to increase rear track width, if not for looks, as it would only induce slightly more understeer... right? (assuming it would make a noticeable difference)
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BTW...A few more pics at my cardomain:http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2919669

I hope to keep it pretty up to date with future mods, and I'll be putting up some interior pics, engine shots, etc.
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Originally Posted by mowgli29
I'm just considering the spacers for looks, I don't like how the rear wheels aren't as flush. It wouldn't make much sense to increase rear track width, if not for looks, as it would only induce slightly more understeer... right? (assuming it would make a noticeable difference)
I just seem to recall people setting up their suspension in a way that widens both front and rear track width (maybe in unequal amounts though), but are able to keep steering pretty neutral or even oversteer, that's why I was asking. I guess the point is to reduce some lateral weight transfer by increasing track width.
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
I just seem to recall people setting up their suspension in a way that widens both front and rear track width (maybe in unequal amounts though), but are able to keep steering pretty neutral or even oversteer, that's why I was asking. I guess the point is to reduce some lateral weight transfer by increasing track width.
Gotcha. I didn't really think of weight transfer. I'm thinking with only a 10mm spacer the rear definitely won't be any wider than the front, probably a little narrower still, and with weight transfer in mind...maybe it'll help more than hurt. We'll see!

Any recommendations on spacers? I can't find anything for under $100ish
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Look on my350z for good deals. I get a lot of my stuff from there, lol. H&R, Eibach, Ichiba, are all good, but I think H&R doesn't make 10 mm spacers.
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+1 on my350z.com. lots more deals there, even for WBo2 too (for future reference). there are already some sets of spacers for sale in the Marketplace forums. check it out. also, PM AuToMaX_95 here on the .org to see if he can get a deal for you in 10mm spacers.
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Originally Posted by mowgli29
Already beat you to it! For dailing driving, illuminas are on 5 all the way around. I only soften them for taking the g/f on a date

Also, I drove in the rain yesterday, as you can see in the pics, and they seem to perform nicely. I'm wondering if they'll be as good as the BFG's were...time will tell!
im rolling on 5/5 all around too but they cant keep up with the GC's spring rate...
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Originally Posted by Mr****s95SE
+1 on my350z.com. lots more deals there, even for WBo2 too (for future reference). there are already some sets of spacers for sale in the Marketplace forums. check it out. also, PM AuToMaX_95 here on the .org to see if he can get a deal for you in 10mm spacers.
All the +10mm ones are sold, I checked already.

Plenty of 20-25mm spacers left though.

For WB02s, one of their vendors Z1 Performance seems to have pretty competitive pricing. The regular FS stuff goes really quick if it is a good deal because of how much traffic they get over there.
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Originally Posted by Mr****s95SE
im rolling on 5/5 all around too but they cant keep up with the GC's spring rate...
that's a bummer. what's the spring rate? default GC rate?

I think once my illuminas blow/get old I'll replace the fronts with koni dampers. Should I stick with the Eibach springs or go with the GC's? I'd like to go a bit lower...but IDK.
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Put the Altima wheels back on please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by maximized98
Put the Altima wheels back on please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
once again...I don't see how bright silver goes with black headlights, trim, tint, etc. There is nothing else bright on my car think those wheels stick out like a sore thumb against all the blackness...
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Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
All the +10mm ones are sold, I checked already.

Plenty of 20-25mm spacers left though.

For WB02s, one of their vendors Z1 Performance seems to have pretty competitive pricing. The regular FS stuff goes really quick if it is a good deal because of how much traffic they get over there.
thanks for the info!
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You're right, that doesn't look lowered, but it's nice though!
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wtf u have 255 on 9" rims and ift on yer car i was told i couldnt fit 9" rims without them touching my shokcs whats your offset?
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Originally Posted by mowgli29
once again...I don't see how bright silver goes with black headlights, trim, tint, etc. There is nothing else bright on my car think those wheels stick out like a sore thumb against all the blackness...
Dude, it's all about the contrast.

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wtf u have 255 on 9" rims and ift on yer car i was told i couldnt fit 9" rims without them touching my shokcs whats your offset?
You were told wrong.
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Sweet color My ride will also be getting a drop this weekend
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Originally Posted by mowgli29
that's a bummer. what's the spring rate? default GC rate?

I think once my illuminas blow/get old I'll replace the fronts with koni dampers. Should I stick with the Eibach springs or go with the GC's? I'd like to go a bit lower...but IDK.
default rates: 450lb/in front and 350lb/in rear. Illuminas are WAY too soft, even on the stiffest setting.

if you want to get more aggressive, go with the GC's as the Koni Yellows are able to be shortened. what some people do is go with 3rd gen Koni Reds inserts in front as they are short for that application but can fit in 4th gen housings. only thing with the Reds are that they are non-adjustable. BUT you dont have to hassle with shortening the Yellows. tradeoff i guess. the Koni Yellow/GC is a pretty popular combo among autoXers and roadracers as spring rates and dampening can be customized from the manufacturer.
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wtf u have 255 on 9" rims and ift on yer car i was told i couldnt fit 9" rims without them touching my shokcs whats your offset?
+35. I still have at least a finger gap, probably more, between the strut and the tire. Heck, I can still turn the wheels to full lock and I don't rub.
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Originally Posted by LTU_max
Sweet color My ride will also be getting a drop this weekend


what springs you dropping it with?
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Originally Posted by Mr****s95SE
default rates: 450lb/in front and 350lb/in rear. Illuminas are WAY too soft, even on the stiffest setting.

if you want to get more aggressive, go with the GC's as the Koni Yellows are able to be shortened. what some people do is go with 3rd gen Koni Reds inserts in front as they are short for that application but can fit in 4th gen housings. only thing with the Reds are that they are non-adjustable. BUT you dont have to hassle with shortening the Yellows. tradeoff i guess. the Koni Yellow/GC is a pretty popular combo among autoXers and roadracers as spring rates and dampening can be customized from the manufacturer.
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Originally Posted by mowgli29


what springs you dropping it with?
Using Illuminas + Tein S-Techs, along with O.Z. MSW Type 12 17x8 wheels
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Originally Posted by LTU_max
Using Illuminas + Tein S-Techs, along with O.Z. MSW Type 12 17x8 wheels
sweet! I've never seen those wheels on a max before.

are you going to have ANY suspension travel on the s techs?!
I have hardly any travel and I'm about a half inch higher than you!
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Originally Posted by mowgli29
sweet! I've never seen those wheels on a max before.

are you going to have ANY suspension travel on the s techs?!
I have hardly any travel and I'm about a half inch higher than you!
I don't know we'll see. I've heard of a few orgers who have those springs and they like them plenty. I just love the look with those springs.

Anyway here's a pic of my car with the MSW wheels, this is without a drop:

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Do you have any rubbing against the fenders in the rear or did you have to roll them?
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No rolled or stretched fenders. No rubbing either!

I would never try rolling my fenders...the guy that painted this car for me did a SH!TTY job and I'd be surprised if the paint didn't crack while rolling the fenders.
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