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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 08:52 PM
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Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

I had a jwt pop charger for a while it was great until I decided to take it off one day and noticed that my low end power is a LOT better without the cone, so I said the hell with it.

Now that I'm reading about these hybrid intake systems, I'm curious why is it that with the piping and the cone you don't lose the low end power like you did with just the cone. I'm very tempted to get something like this as long I don't take a hit off my low end power.

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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 10:13 PM
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Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

Originally posted by Kevin
I had a jwt pop charger for a while it was great until I decided to take it off one day and noticed that my low end power is a LOT better without the cone, so I said the hell with it.

Now that I'm reading about these hybrid intake systems, I'm curious why is it that with the piping and the cone you don't lose the low end power like you did with just the cone. I'm very tempted to get something like this as long I don't take a hit off my low end power.

Kevin
I truly don't know, but I did happen to have a pop-charger and noticed the loss in low-end, but as soon as the midpipe was installed my low end was recovered and also an my top-end power was somewhat increased. I have tested this at the track and noticed that I'm best with the pop/midpipe setup over anything else such as CAI or just the pop.
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 06:53 AM
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Re: Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

Originally posted by BenBlanco218
I truly don't know, but I did happen to have a pop-charger and noticed the loss in low-end, but as soon as the midpipe was installed my low end was recovered and also an my top-end power was somewhat increased. I have tested this at the track and noticed that I'm best with the pop/midpipe setup over anything else such as CAI or just the pop.
whats midpipe?? does it go in place of that big black box between the pipe cone and the intake manifold??
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 07:09 AM
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I got a question about a CAI, I dont want to waste bandwidth with a easy question like this. You know how to HAI is almost stock at low end and screams at WOT. Is a CAI like this? Or is it just loud throughout all RPM's?
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 10:21 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

Originally posted by alexamparo


whats midpipe?? does it go in place of that big black box between the pipe cone and the intake manifold??
Yes, it goes in place of the black box.
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by BBaker025
I got a question about a CAI, I dont want to waste bandwidth with a easy question like this. You know how to HAI is almost stock at low end and screams at WOT. Is a CAI like this? Or is it just loud throughout all RPM's?
The CAI is loud but not as loud as a pop/midpipe setup in the same rpms. Just having a pop is the least loudest.
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 10:28 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

Originally posted by BenBlanco218
Yes, it goes in place of the black box.
that block box acts like a silencer-- thatys why when u remove it its gets CRAZY LOUD!!! but only if u romp on the gas
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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when i put hybrid style on my intake it did feel an increase in low end tourque but that could have been because of my cleaning of the throtle body
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by kevlo911
when i put hybrid style on my intake it did feel an increase in low end tourque but that could have been because of my cleaning of the throtle body
Did cleaning your TB give you a MPG gain? How about throttle response?
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by phenryiv1


Did cleaning your TB give you a MPG gain? How about throttle response?
it should give u a smoother idle... i dunno about the MPG..
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 02:30 PM
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Re: Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

Originally posted by BenBlanco218
I truly don't know, but I did happen to have a pop-charger and noticed the loss in low-end, but as soon as the midpipe was installed my low end was recovered and also an my top-end power was somewhat increased. I have tested this at the track and noticed that I'm best with the pop/midpipe setup over anything else such as CAI or just the pop.
When you buy a pop charger, you only get a cone? Where do you get a midpipe?
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 02:48 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

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When you buy a pop charger, you only get a cone? Where do you get a midpipe?
u can order one from Warpspeed performance.. or from Place Racing.. or from fankencar

thats if u already have a pop charger
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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Why is it called pop charger? Isen't just a cone filter? So now it's called cone charger
LOL
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 03:42 PM
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Re: Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

If I get the Frankencar intake will I notice loss in low-end like you just mentioned or will I gain power in the low-end and top-end.
This will help me make my final decision on get the Frankencar.
Thanks bro

Originally posted by BenBlanco218
I truly don't know, but I did happen to have a pop-charger and noticed the loss in low-end, but as soon as the midpipe was installed my low end was recovered and also an my top-end power was somewhat increased. I have tested this at the track and noticed that I'm best with the pop/midpipe setup over anything else such as CAI or just the pop.
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

***BUMP UP THE JAM****

Originally posted by MaxJag
If I get the Frankencar intake will I notice loss in low-end like you just mentioned or will I gain power in the low-end and top-end.
This will help me make my final decision on get the Frankencar.
Thanks bro

Old Jul 23, 2002 | 06:10 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

Originally posted by MaxJag
***BUMP UP THE JAM****

u wont lsoe lowend-- u will retain most of it.. and gain mid-high end.. win win situation
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 07:06 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

Originally posted by MaxedOut


u wont lsoe lowend-- u will retain most of it.. and gain mid-high end.. win win situation
so what you guys are saying is that if you already have a JWT pop-charger. all you have to do is buy a mid-pipe and it will work as good as buying the whole thing from Frankencar.com?

thanks
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 07:45 PM
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I think that the JWT and Stillen are the only POP style intakes that have a venturi, or velocity stack. That would help stabilize flow.

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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 07:59 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

Originally posted by libo74


so what you guys are saying is that if you already have a JWT pop-charger. all you have to do is buy a mid-pipe and it will work as good as buying the whole thing from Frankencar.com?

thanks
exactly.. u already have half of the hybrid already (the intake) now u just need the other half (the mid pipe) to complete the setup
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

Originally posted by MaxedOut


u can order one from Warpspeed performance.. or from Place Racing.. or from fankencar

thats if u already have a pop charger
or make one ureslf...

I gotta try this mod... doesn't seem tooooooo hard. btw real quick (w/o search) how much would it cost to buy the midpipe from somwewhere
Old Jul 23, 2002 | 11:21 PM
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Get the Franken midpipe. It comes with all the instructions and sounds great!
Old Jul 24, 2002 | 01:56 AM
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Midpipe from frankencar is $55. If you plan to do it, I heard someone had fitment issues with his JWT, but there is a write-up on it and can easily be found through search.
Old Jul 24, 2002 | 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by JsL
Midpipe from frankencar is $55. If you plan to do it, I heard someone had fitment issues with his JWT, but there is a write-up on it and can easily be found through search.
Just look for my write up on it. One is the installation, the other is the review. If you read through it, you'll have a breeze with installation since a lot of questions during the installation are posted and answered by myself.
Old Jul 24, 2002 | 06:13 AM
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Originally posted by TurDz


Just look for my write up on it. One is the installation, the other is the review. If you read through it, you'll have a breeze with installation since a lot of questions during the installation are posted and answered by myself.
look at the f/s forum for dohccivicna1250 he sells the mid pipe for about $48 polished. he is located in new york.
Old Jul 24, 2002 | 06:24 AM
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This is not hard to understand people. It's very simple, the hybrid intake gives you better throttle response and more power throughout the powerband.
Old Jul 24, 2002 | 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by deezo
This is not hard to understand people. It's very simple, the hybrid intake gives you better throttle response and more power throughout the powerband.
I think we all understand that it DOES, we just acnnot figure ou tthe REASONS for it. At least, that is what I cannot figure out...
Old Jul 25, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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Picture of Mid-Pipe

Originally posted by MadmanMax
Get the Franken midpipe. It comes with all the instructions and sounds great!
Does anyone have any pictures of a midpipe installed?
Old Jul 25, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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see how to make your own intake piping at this link.

http://www.drwebdesign.com/mymaxima/upperintake.html
Old Jul 25, 2002 | 06:24 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Why does the cone w/ piping counter act the low end power loss?

which product(combination of products) yield the best results? Frankencar, place racing, jwt, warpseepd or stillen?

dburciago@hotmail.com

thanks,

dan
Old Jul 25, 2002 | 07:11 PM
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Doubt it would really matter. The difference between these intakes will be less than 1 hp.

DW

Originally posted by danielbu
which product(combination of products) yield the best results? Frankencar, place racing, jwt, warpseepd or stillen?

dburciago@hotmail.com

thanks,

dan
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