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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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Is it worth converting from Cali to Fed?

I've got a Cali-spec 97 Max SE, and while I could find many 5th gen owners talking about doing a conversion, I didn't see much for 4th gens. What would be involved in converting to Fed-specs? Has anyone done this and noticed results? I don't live in a state that does smog tests, so emissions are nothing to be worried about.
Old Sep 13, 2002 | 03:58 AM
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any little power increase is helpful..



i too have a cali spec.. and i live in PA!!

Old Sep 13, 2002 | 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by redmaxpa007
any little power increase is helpful..



i too have a cali spec.. and i live in PA!!

Yeah, I live in VA and have one, do you know of any 4th gens that have done this?
Old Sep 13, 2002 | 06:02 AM
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Cali spec here too. I think the only major differences is the Y pipe and the swish valves in our intake manifolds. The swish valves only operate during warm up. After that there open all the time.

Our Y pipe has pre cats, but I think everybodys Y has them, we also have more sensors in our exhaust. I don't think that hinders performance at all. Just makes the car run cleaner.

Replace your stock Y with an aftermarket and leave the rest alone. You could disable your swish valves but I don't think it's worth it. Like I said, they only operate during warm up. Once your car is at operating temperature it runs just like any other fed spec engine.
Old Sep 13, 2002 | 06:10 AM
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Cali spec here too. I think the only major differences is the Y pipe and the swish valves in our intake manifolds. The swish valves only operate during warm up. After that there open all the time.

Our Y pipe has pre cats, but I think everybodys Y has them, we also have more sensors in our exhaust. I don't think that hinders performance at all. Just makes the car run cleaner.

Replace your stock Y with an aftermarket and leave the rest alone. You could disable your swish valves but I don't think it's worth it. Like I said, they only operate during warm up. Once your car is at operating temperature it runs just like any other fed spec engine.
So is there any reason why I can't buy a Fed-spec y pipe?
Old Sep 13, 2002 | 06:44 AM
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So is there any reason why I can't buy a Fed-spec y pipe?
yes..

the stillen y pipe is a 2 piece design.. it you have a cali spec you do not use the second piece. federal spec connect the 2 together and install..
Old Sep 13, 2002 | 11:54 AM
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I live in NY and have a 99 SE Cali spec.
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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From 95 to 98 regarless of what spec, the y pipe was the same right? I know if you have a 99 cali spec and 99 fed spec, the y pipe is different. On budget's site, they only list y pipes for 95-99 fed specs, but if I have a 98 cali spec, the pipe should fit right?
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by JsL
From 95 to 98 regarless of what spec, the y pipe was the same right? I know if you have a 99 cali spec and 99 fed spec, the y pipe is different. On budget's site, they only list y pipes for 95-99 fed specs, but if I have a 98 cali spec, the pipe should fit right?
Yeah, I want to know this
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by JsL
From 95 to 98 regarless of what spec, the y pipe was the same right? I know if you have a 99 cali spec and 99 fed spec, the y pipe is different. On budget's site, they only list y pipes for 95-99 fed specs, but if I have a 98 cali spec, the pipe should fit right?
Yes.
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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cool...Thanks!
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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........... what would i need to do a complete conversion ......

would it be pheasible to say that if i changed the ECU over, and the front lower manifold... aka the swirl valves.. that i would in effect have a fed spec car ?!?! anyone ?

dont tell me how much it will cost.

i hope my logic is correct.
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Originally posted by Stillnmax
........... what would i need to do a complete conversion ......

would it be pheasible to say that if i changed the ECU over, and the front lower manifold... aka the swirl valves.. that i would in effect have a fed spec car ?!?! anyone ?

dont tell me how much it will cost.

i hope my logic is correct.
we talked about this..

and stop using logic.. you might hurt yourself..
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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well ??? anyone ?
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