I don't have enough money for a full blown stereo system replacement, so I'm going to start by replacing the rears(which have awful treble when there is any bass), keeping them hooked up to the amp, and then in a month, buying a new HU and front speakers.
But in the meantime, what would be the nicest speakers for the back? I'm talking that good bose bass, but with much beter highs. I bought some infinity 2ways, for $102, but I don't want to do any permenant thing to them, untill I can get some opinions here. So, should I try fosgate, sony, panasonic, kenwood, ect? Or are the infinity 2ways pretty good, say an upgrade in sound quality and bass? I don't want to loose alot of bass, and would actually perfer to gain some by spending $100 on the back.
And one more question - would a stereo system with 45wx4 sound just as good as the bose system, or would it not nearly put out 45w to each speaker, as the bose put out 25w?

 

you dont need anything great. i got some boston eurofit speakers in the back and some crappy speakers up front and people ask me if i have subs. they cost me like 75$ at tweeter.

 

Get a set of Pioneer 6x9s... The 200W 2-ways are about $65-75, and have an awesome sound.

 

Hmmm.... Well, I want something with good quality, so that later on, I won't even have to think of upgrading.
But would there be a big dif between pioneers, infinity 2ways and infinity 3 ways?

 

Unfortunately you can't use the factory amp with any other speakers since the bose system uses .25 ohm drivers. In my 92 I replaced the head unit with an aftermarket CD player using only the $10 nissan harness. I kept the front factory speakers and amps since they sounded great and nothing will give you the bass response up front like those. I replaced the bad rear 6x9s with some nice clarions running off the deck power. Sounds almost like subs. The last thing I'll add is probly some 8's or 10's in the rear deck with an amp since I don't want to lose any trunk space.

 

Don't get the pioneer 6x9's. I have them they sound good until you listen to really good speakers..then they sound like crapola. Get some infinity 6x9's..they rule..kappa series green ones I think. Honestly though, for a low budget basic system, you want a 25x4 amp, and invest money into the front speakers. Rear speakers are just for fill. You will appreciate the higher quality speakers when they are close to you on the front stage. In competition, systems are always balance front biased, with the best sound in the drivers seat. Rear speakers are often barely heard. If you get component speakers fo rthe front, get good tweeters. I got an MTX set. The midbass driver is great, but the tweeters blew real quick.

 

i feel like the pioneer 6x9 four ways are awesome. the cost 150$ for the pair and they are clear as hell. I replaced all entire bose with pioneer except for the 10" sub i put in the deck the is an alpine type R. it's the ****.QUOTE]Originally posted by male
Don't get the pioneer 6x9's. I have them they sound good until you listen to really good speakers..then they sound like crapola. Get some infinity 6x9's..they rule..kappa series green ones I think. Honestly though, for a low budget basic system, you want a 25x4 amp, and invest money into the front speakers. Rear speakers are just for fill. You will appreciate the higher quality speakers when they are close to you on the front stage. In competition, systems are always balance front biased, with the best sound in the drivers seat. Rear speakers are often barely heard. If you get component speakers fo rthe front, get good tweeters. I got an MTX set. The midbass driver is great, but the tweeters blew real quick. [/QUOTE]

 

The Pioneer 6x9's SUCK. So do the Bose.

I put in Blaupunkt 6x9's ODx series. They can be had for as little as $50 or as much as $150. You just have to look.

They are awesome. My friends keep asking where the sub is. They are 3-ways with 2 inputs. I used the jumper to feed them off of my HU only. My HU puts out 50x4, so the speakers are even a little underpowered.

 

i have pioneers all the way arround, about 100 bucks a pair for 2, a pioneer unit and 2 mtx 12'' subs, i practically have the best "sounding" system in my school, and it didnt cost a crap load, like jls would, just save up and buy new stuff.. bose sucks after a while

 

Personally I'd go with Infinity 3 way 6x9s for the rear, mine produce very clear treble and mids and the bass is good until you get into really high volumes, they probably don't compare to a sub but they're more than adequate for my purposes.

My front 4" Infinitys are decent but not anything special, also my leg blocks the left one when I'm driving which kindof sucks. If you can afford it put plywood with a 6" component set in the door and tweeters up above somewhere.

If you're using the headunit to power the speakers you probably won't get as much out of them than you would with an amp. Switching from my old bottom line Sony deck to the ES 910 and PPI amp was like night and day. If you get an amp avoid the crappy noname stuff on ebay that claims to put out 1200W for $68, the Car Audio forum here has some good info on what amps are good and bad. Personally I love my PPI but there's plenty of other good makes out there.

Also, IMHO car audio is very expensive for what you get out of it, I'd recommend building a fairly basic system and just leaving it like that. Stuff is easilly stolen and having a hot system is like having your car beg to be broken into, especially in some areas. Also it takes a considerably greater investment in car audio to match the same quality you'd get in a home system. Just my 2 cents.

 

man, i've went though soo many systems in my car, and i had infinity kappa 3 way 6x9's, the new model pioneer 4 way 6x9's, i had sony xplod 6x9's, and a set of new model kappa compnents (silvery white look, not green) and a set of audiobahn components. Of all of them, i liked the pioneers the best, they are the loudest and have the most bass, but they are worth the extra money, but u have to run an amp on them. If u get good speakers u should always put an amp on them. so they can sound there best. And for my kappa's that were ok but i sold them to my brother b/c he wanted them and got the audiobahn components and they sound great. And u shouldn't really want your speakers to put out much bass, if u let them concentrate on the highs and maybe get like one subwoofer to fill in for the bass, it will sound really clean, not knocking down the street bass.

 

Pioneer 4 way 6x9s...when theyre running off a decent deck/amp they will sound perfect. Trust me i play mine at high volumes very frequently and even Metallica at high volume sounds great with these:

(running off deck, no amp here)

they give off really clear highs and strong low end mids/high end lows

 

why waste your money and sound on 6x9s in the rear? have you looked at the cutouts? they're for 6.5". my system looks like this:
MB quart referance 6.5" comps(thanks patrick94SE) (mids in stock door location, tweets in my experimental spot near the handle)powered by a PPI PC450 (currently running only 2 channels, but when i'm motivated, i'll bridge it), rears are run off the deck (pioneer premier DEH-P740MP which i installed today, replacing the premier 630), memphis 6.5" coaxials. sub: JL 12w3 D4(thanks maximadave) in a ported JL spec box powered by JBL BP600.1 (thanks blakkrob). before that i had memphis 6.5s all around and it was pretty good, but nothing compares to separates on an amp. for a budget, i'd say memphis 6.5" in the rear, cheap premier deck, MTX thunder 6000 componants up front, 50x2 amp, cheap 10" with like 100x1 powering it. you want good sound, you either have to wait for kickass deals, or put up the $$$.

 

these kats on here sayin that tha pioneer 6x9 4-way speakers suck haven't really experienced them to their full quality.....i've had mine for almost 2 years now and they still sound terrific.....i have the 3 way 4 1/2 speakers in the door and those sound terrific also....lil tricks you can do with a pioneer HU can make them sound really good too....for the most part, i have pioneer throughout my car except for one of my amps..xplod amp pushes the subs while a pioneer amp pushes the other speakers....plan on gettin that new 4 channel amp sony (714 watts i think...had the amp for a minute while i was gettin my pioneer amp looked at and the speakers sounded even better with more wattage pushin through them) has out to push the inside speakers......you can expext to have nice highs from the pioneers, but if you really want to tweet over the bass, buy some horns....i have some now and they're mounted in the corners of the top of the front windhsield....in my opinion they beat tweeters and i can't seem to bust them no matter how loud i turn up the radio..

 

6x9s are god of speakers...they will give you good strong low end mids and lows (not as good lows as a sub obviously) because theyre simply large speakers. And if you get 3 or 4 way you will also have good highs. maxdout92se...ditch that xplod amp because xplod amps xplod! you dont wanna roast your subs...go for a kenwood amp

 

Go for fosgates man. can't go wrong with them. i have a kenwood HU pushing fosgates in the front and rear. also have two fosgate tens with 400 watt fosgate amp in the trunk. sounds great.

 

since we're talking bout audio i got some questions.

i have a sony xplod HU 52x4. does it really matter what rear speakers u use? cause i see alot of u guys running pioneer speakers with a pioneer deck. one time i had a 2 way pioneer 6x9 but would fit because one of the tweeters was in the way. yall dont got any problems with this?

 

Mine sound great off the cd decks power, the trunk on these cars are perfect size. The bass is great for only 6x9's. I'm gonna add 1 10"or 12" in the center of the rear deck on a baffle-free air running off an old Linear Power 2002 amp I have.

 

doesen't matter what brand as long as they fit and are able to be powered by the reciever. shouldn't matter if you run sony speakers on a pioneer deck or pioneers on a sony deck, etc. generally anything the deck is able to power should work, which is usually any 4ohm speakers other than subs (which need their own amp to work properly).

 

keenwood excelon sound really good, i have them in the back and in the doors and it sounds really good!!!

 

There is a reason few (if any) top end audio companies make component speakers in any shape other than a circle. A circular cone provides the better rigidity and resistance to deformation than a elipse (6x9)

If you want good bass, get some quality component speakers and high pass them. This will require a head unit with internal crossovers or an external amp. Then, listening to one pair of speakers at a time, adjust the crossover freq until the speakers don't pop from too much bass with the volume cranked. This will be the point where you will get the best bass. Then if you don't think you have enough, get a sub. Makes all the diff.

I am rebuilding my sub box right now (out of fiberglass, instead of MDF) and need to replace my fronts, so I am running just my rear Sony Mobile ES 5.25 components in the rear. I was amazed at how much more bass they put out when tuned properly. Give it a shot and good luck.

Andrew