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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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Havoline Coolant-Antifreeze

I bought....hold on I'll go look.....Havoline extended life coolant and antifreeze. It states it meets GM's Dex cool and is the first to be awarded this certification, also says it meets Japanese silicate free requirements and European phosphate free requirements. Benefits: Improved water pump life, outstanding high temp aluminum protection, 5 year 150K mile protection, meets American, European, and Japanese Manufacturers requirements.
No other antifreeze I could find said this on the bottle. There was a mention of needing to be nitride free by someone on the org. but this stuff seems to meet all the requirements of all the major manufactures, so I'm going to try it.(unless someone can tell me why I should not) I bought this coolant because it meets every damn car manufacturers specs. I know of. So it must be OK?????

Any Opinions before I put this in my BELOVED Maxima would be greatly appreciated. It's due for a coolant flush, but I don't want to f*&kup my water pump either.

What does the oracle of the org say? (I have done searches but none specifically address this brand) To tell you the truth I always thought Havoline sucked, but in this case it seemed to be the best I could find.....
Old Jan 3, 2003 | 03:53 PM
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The Havoline stuff is perfectly fine; just like Prestone or the Peak stuff. I think most people are a little too **** about antifreeze. Some like the red stuff or the OEM stuff. The key here is not which brand but how often you change it. If you prefer extended change intervals, use the expensive stuff. If you plan on changing coolant once every 2-3 years, any brand (within specification) is fine. Some people are willing to shell out $10+ for the expensive antifreeze. I get the Peak for $2.50 a gallon on sale. I did a flush at 75k and every year after I just do a drain and refill. My 95 SE is at 95k and still runs great. It never had a hint of any cooling problems.

It's the same with motor oil. 5W-30 or 10W-30 on sale, usually $.59 or $.89 after rebate (usually Havoline, Chevron, Quaker state). I could do 4 oil changes a year and the car would run just as good as the guy that changed his oil with synthetic.

Anyway, you get my point
Old Jan 3, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by JMAX95
The Havoline stuff is perfectly fine; just like Prestone or the Peak stuff. I think most people are a little too **** about antifreeze. Some like the red stuff or the OEM stuff. The key here is not which brand but how often you change it. If you prefer extended change intervals, use the expensive stuff. If you plan on changing coolant once every 2-3 years, any brand (within specification) is fine. Some people are willing to shell out $10+ for the expensive antifreeze. I get the Peak for $2.50 a gallon on sale. I did a flush at 75k and every year after I just do a drain and refill. My 95 SE is at 95k and still runs great. It never had a hint of any cooling problems.

It's the same with motor oil. 5W-30 or 10W-30 on sale, usually $.59 or $.89 after rebate (usually Havoline, Chevron, Quaker state). I could do 4 oil changes a year and the car would run just as good as the guy that changed his oil with synthetic.

Anyway, you get my point

I got the impression buy the "experts" around here that it was important to use a silicate free coolant/antifreeze in your system or you would have premature water pump failure. So when I saw this stuff I thought that "hey this is just what the Dr. ordered" for my Maxima. I'm going to use it, even though I saw another post that said that "Dex Cool" certified stuff would cause premature head gasket failure.(I could find the post again and put it here but it aint worth the trouble) Seems that anything but Nissan OEM stuff has some downside to it. I just can't believe that anything but OEM antifreeze would cause all these different type of "premature failures" The Antifreeze manufacturers would be out of business if that were so. It dosen't get very cold here anyway, South Georgia/North Florida barely gets below freezing but maybe a few times a year. Every now and then we have a "hard freeze" of 20 to 32 deg. F.... If you can call that a hard freeze :-) We call it that here anyway. This stuff seems to meet all the MFG's requirements (along with German and American requirements too) So what the hay. I'll give it a shot.
Thanks for the reply,
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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I need to do it the next chance I get. I'll probably go with oem or toyota oem. I think japanese water pumps may be a little more sensitive, so I'll use those. Sounds like you have good stuff. I'll just stick with oem stuff and change at oem intervals. I'm might use this havoline stuff now that I know it meets all those requirements.
Old Jan 5, 2003 | 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by JMAX95
The Havoline stuff is perfectly fine; just like Prestone or the Peak stuff. I think most people are a little too **** about antifreeze. Some like the red stuff or the OEM stuff. The key here is not which brand but how often you change it. If you prefer extended change intervals, use the expensive stuff. If you plan on changing coolant once every 2-3 years, any brand (within specification) is fine. Some people are willing to shell out $10+ for the expensive antifreeze. I get the Peak for $2.50 a gallon on sale. I did a flush at 75k and every year after I just do a drain and refill. My 95 SE is at 95k and still runs great. It never had a hint of any cooling problems.

It's the same with motor oil. 5W-30 or 10W-30 on sale, usually $.59 or $.89 after rebate (usually Havoline, Chevron, Quaker state). I could do 4 oil changes a year and the car would run just as good as the guy that changed his oil with synthetic.

Anyway, you get my point
Don't agree with your statement on oil. Synthetic provides much better engine protection than dino oil, no matter how frequently you change the dino oil. Protection against engine wear at startup - especially in cold weather is one of many benefits. Don't kid yourself into thinking you can get synthetic oil protection simply by using dino oil and changing it more frequently.
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