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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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Based on March 03's Motor Trend us 02/03's have nothing to worry about vs 04's

Us 02/03 guys dont have anything to worry about performance wise vs the 04's. Well I scanned a Motor Trend for March 03 at my brothers and the tested the 04 6spd against the Audi A4. They got 0-60 in 6.3 1/4 mile was 14.7 i forgot the speed it was at, and they said it had way too much torque steer still. It looks like it may have lost a little pep at least it is not as fast as I thought it would be preliminary. It will probably end up being a situation like the 4th gen to 00-01 maximas.
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Re: Based on March 03's Motor Trend us 02/03's have nothing to worry about vs 04's

Originally posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
Us 02/03 guys dont have anything to worry about performance wise vs the 04's. Well I scanned a Motor Trend for March 03 at my brothers and the tested the 04 6spd against the Audi A4. They got 0-60 in 6.3 1/4 mile was 14.7 i forgot the speed it was at, and they said it had way too much torque steer still. It looks like it may have lost a little pep at least it is not as fast as I thought it would be preliminary. It will probably end up being a situation like the 4th gen to 00-01 maximas.
I hope so
Old Jan 30, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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Re: Based on March 03's Motor Trend us 02/03's have nothing to worry about vs 04's

Originally posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
It will probably end up being a situation like the 4th gen to 00-01 maximas.
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 05:28 AM
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What was the TRAP SPEED?

Previous mags have done a very crappy job of testing the 02 6spd. They only got 14.7 or 14.8 or something when that's actually a fairly slow time. But they trapped at 97 mph. The trap speed is the best judge of how powerful the car is, not the ET.

Anyhow, I think it's a little premature to judge a car's performance just based on a SINGLE mag test. You will never ever get a true idea from just that. Plus nobody here even has one yet. Mag tests of 02 6spd's of 14.7-14.8 turned out to be 14.2-14.3 with skilled drivers here that had time to break-in, practice with, and learn the car. The 04 still may be every bit as fast as the 02's.
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 05:40 AM
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Re: Based on March 03's Motor Trend us 02/03's have nothing to worry about vs 04's

Originally posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
Us 02/03 guys dont have anything to worry about performance wise vs the 04's. Well I scanned a Motor Trend for March 03 at my brothers and the tested the 04 6spd against the Audi A4. They got 0-60 in 6.3 1/4 mile was 14.7 i forgot the speed it was at, and they said it had way too much torque steer still. It looks like it may have lost a little pep at least it is not as fast as I thought it would be preliminary. It will probably end up being a situation like the 4th gen to 00-01 maximas.
Isn't that faster than the last time they got? I thought they got 14.9-15.0 last time?
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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Re: Re: Based on March 03's Motor Trend us 02/03's have nothing to worry about vs 04's

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Isn't that faster than the last time they got? I thought they got 14.9-15.0 last time?
They actually never tested it but C/d did a shortake on the 02 and got a 14.7 1/4 @97 mph. As far as the trap speed for the 04, I have to glance at it again as I was a little tipsy and forgot to write it down.
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:33 AM
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MotorTrend got their 14.77 sec @ 96.69 (6 speed)
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 01:49 PM
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Ok, me and pioneer have made good with each otehr over AIM. Let's just try to keep this post clean Sorry for the inconveniance everyone.
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Ok, me and pioneer have made good with each otehr over AIM. Let's just try to keep this post clean Sorry for the inconveniance everyone.
good.
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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good.
That's great to hear.......but i'm still waiting on my free food!
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 02:12 PM
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I think those times will improve. But it is good to know that I still have the fastest FWD production vehicle ever tested.

I read the article...And I would take that hands down over that Audi they raved about..

I am just not crazy about the grill on the MAx..but, that may change when I see it in person
Old Feb 1, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by wild *****
I think those times will improve. But it is good to know that I still have the fastest FWD production vehicle ever tested.

I read the article...And I would take that hands down over that Audi they raved about..

I am just not crazy about the grill on the MAx..but, that may change when I see it in person
Do you have an Altima then? Wasn't that what Motor Trend said was the fastest FWD production they've ever tested?
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Do you have an Altima then? Wasn't that what Motor Trend said was the fastest FWD production they've ever tested?
Yes, I do..and I was just joking...! Motor trend myst have a a very fat man test the Maxima..
Old Feb 1, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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You guys are way too hung up on perf figures. The 04 could be everything better than an 03, better this, better that(I'm not saying that it is) but only be equally as fast and all we'll hear is "I'm dissapointed in the new max". "Gee the 04 ONLY runs 14.7".
Old Feb 1, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by Mike S.
You guys are way too hung up on perf figures. The 04 could be everything better than an 03, better this, better that(I'm not saying that it is) but only be equally as fast and all we'll hear is "I'm dissapointed in the new max". "Gee the 04 ONLY runs 14.7".
Well...I for one, am far from disappointed. I can't wait ti it hits the showrooms..I just am unhappy that it will be in the price range of the G35...
Old Feb 1, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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04

mt numbers are probably relaxed. from past experience reading their articles, their testing numbers were a bit off, so probably there is room for improvement. anyone have a pic?
Old Feb 1, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by wild *****


Well...I for one, am far from disappointed. I can't wait ti it hits the showrooms..I just am unhappy that it will be in the price range of the G35...
"Unhappy that it will be in the price range of the G35", ge whiz. That fact alone will make buying a G35 6MT Coupe with Premium and Sport performance package a no-brainer. The car is simply butt-ugly. I mean com on guys. Our 5th Generation might not be the most attractive thing to hit the streets but, people, that 6th generation is a tank. Parked my car several days ago next to a 2K2 Altima, and the Alty just plain stuck out. I mean no styling whatsoever.
Old Feb 2, 2003 | 04:59 AM
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Originally posted by rubman

Parked my car several days ago next to a 2K2 Altima, and the Alty just plain stuck out. I mean no styling whatsoever.

See..you gota get nasty with my Alti Well I felt the same way when I bought the Alti...I thought it had more style..and better lines than the Max..

Looks are a personal thing..not everyone is going to find the same car attractive....There are a lot of people that think the Focus is sweet

That new max is going to appeal to a lot of people...but the price is not...As far as going with the g35..it sure is a no brainer

By the way..I do like the Max..but, I like the Alti better..
Old Feb 2, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by wild *****



See..you gota get nasty with my Alti Well I felt the same way when I bought the Alti...I thought it had more style..and better lines than the Max..

Looks are a personal thing..not everyone is going to find the same car attractive....There are a lot of people that think the Focus is sweet

That new max is going to appeal to a lot of people...but the price is not...As far as going with the g35..it sure is a no brainer

By the way..I do like the Max..but, I like the Alti better..
Wild *****, not to flame your Alty but, wht I meant to say was, based on the curves of the body, when seeing them side by side, you cam tell that a lot more thought went into the Max. You can start with anywhere from the grill, the wheel wells, the headlights. It's not a classy car for the $25K+. Last car that I owned was a 2K Honda Accord Coupe V6, the interior of the Alty reminds me too much of that car. Now I'm not flaming my Accord but, you can very easily tell that, the interior of the Max is a lot more costly, much better design and ergonomics.
You are absolutely right about two things, not everyone is going to find the same car attractive. And the G35 will rule at that price point. I hope you get yours b4 I get mine. Make mine a 6MT Coupe, with the Brembos.
Old Feb 2, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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Interior of Altima is on par with a 1992 Toyota Tercel as far a quality. Max has a much nice inside..no question..and the altima is overpriced for the quality you get..Fully loaded you are over 30 K sticker but you still have the 17K interior of the base model.

G35 will be next....

I disagree about the thought put into the Altima...it gives me Wood every time I look at the exterior....But taste is personal.
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Why do you Altima trolls always have to add your Altima in a discussion even though it has NOTHING to do with it? Don't have have another board to ***** around?
Old Feb 2, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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Why do you Altima trolls always have to add your Altima in a discussion even though it has NOTHING to do with it? Don't have have another board to ***** around?
You know what...if I were degrading your Maxima or coming over here talking smart *** **** I could see you gripe. If you think the Altima has nothing to do with the max let me remind you..we share the same engine.

I do not post here often...and I do not troll looking for arguments..just come here to learn more about your and my cars particularly the VQ. There was a chance that I would get the 04 Max..and was anticipating its trip to the show room. But now that I see it is on the same price line as the G35..I would not even think twice.

Thus, if you feel some threat by me posting here well ...so be it. So exactly ..what is your problem... and how have I upset you so?

By the way screaming VQ...I find an uncanny resemblance of the new max to the Alti...
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Originally posted by wild *****


You know what...if I were degrading your Maxima or coming over here talking smart *** **** I could see you gripe. If you think the Altima has nothing to do with the max let me remind you..we share the same engine.

I do not post here often...and I do not troll looking for arguments..just come here to learn more about your and my cars particularly the VQ. There was a chance that I would get the 04 Max..and was anticipating its trip to the show room. But now that I see it is on the same price line as the G35..I would not even think twice.

Thus, if you feel some threat by me posting here well ...so be it. So exactly ..what is your problem... and how have I upset you so?

By the way screaming VQ...I find an uncanny resemblance of the new max to the Alti...
Uhh Ohh......here we go again.....same thread, same flame, different subject.

Can't we all just get along and somebody give me my damn free food! (if you're wondering why I keep saying that, it's from Pioneer's post on, "We are all here for the Maxima" and my response was being here for the free food.

Ok I'm done whoring!
Old Feb 2, 2003 | 07:26 PM
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Interior of Altima is on par with a 1992 Toyota Tercel as far a quality.
sorry, but the 1992 Tercel has you beat in the quality department...remember those spherical air ducts? those were awesome...

Interior looks? the 2002 Altima is better looking...but not quality...Any Toyo has it beat...

-vq
Old Feb 3, 2003 | 03:41 AM
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I suppose you got a point vqman...it's been so long since I've seen one..it just seemed so cheap at the time... Probably was better
Old Feb 3, 2003 | 05:28 AM
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Re: 2004 Max

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MotorTrend got their 14.77 sec @ 96.69 (6 speed)
Good news and bad news.


The good news is that the engine seems to be putting out advertised power this time.

The bad news is that the extra weight is holding it back now, probably the heavier 18's for sure.


We'll know how bad it is after somebody can actually weigh the wheel/tire combo. Probably 55+ lb. Number 1 mod for Gen6 owners might be lighter 17" or 18" rims. If I were buying one, I might even see if I could switch for the 17" SL rims.
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Originally posted by wild *****


You know what...if I were degrading your Maxima or coming over here talking smart *** **** I could see you gripe. If you think the Altima has nothing to do with the max let me remind you..we share the same engine.

I do not post here often...and I do not troll looking for arguments..just come here to learn more about your and my cars particularly the VQ. There was a chance that I would get the 04 Max..and was anticipating its trip to the show room. But now that I see it is on the same price line as the G35..I would not even think twice.

Thus, if you feel some threat by me posting here well ...so be it. So exactly ..what is your problem... and how have I upset you so?

By the way screaming VQ...I find an uncanny resemblance of the new max to the Alti...
I don't have a problem with you posting here, its the fact that you always have to include the Altima in a post when it has NOTHING to do with it...WOW it shares the same engine whoop-ti-doo just take a look at the ORIGINAL topic please
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I don't have a problem with you posting here, its the fact that you always have to include the Altima in a post when it has NOTHING to do with it...WOW it shares the same engine whoop-ti-doo just take a look at the ORIGINAL topic please
a litttle help for my VQ Maxima owning friend...sorry wild *****, but The Altima sharing the same engine as the Maxima doens't mean much. The Altima shares the same engine as found in the Quest, FX35, Murano, Pathfinder, QX4 --> all SUV's/minivans Then it has the same engine as the G35 and 350Z.

Like ScreamingVQ says, whoop-ti-doo.

The Altima might have posted better numbers when driven by writers from the same Magazine, but I'd still never trade in my 6 speed Max for ANY Altima. That is why this is Maxima.org...most of us like Maximas. The others are here to stir things up. (or "learn" more about the VQ yeah! )

You seem to be a pretty cool guy wild *****, but as an Altima owner, you may want to stick to kissing our tales, not getting all ate up. Even if the other guy may have instigated it...we will team up and defend our own.

About the G35 being the "hands down" choice...
I sat in a G35 again yesterday, while it is a great looking car it's considerably smaller than the current Maxima, and the 2004 is supposed to be bigger. So if you value space, you may not be so willing to jump to the G35. Interior styling won't be far off from the G35 either. have you seen picks? the new Max has the 3 spoke steering wheel, and nice looking materials. (not as good looking as the Audi, but whose car is?)

peace man, peace!

-vq
Old Feb 3, 2003 | 10:00 AM
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Well u never know its now rated at 265hp, although im not too sure how accurate those #'s really are. If i remember correctly Car&Driver was hitting 14.8 in the 2k2-3 max and people on the org were hittin 14.3-14.2 stock. so u never know if its gonna be faster til some1 gets one and goes to the track. I personally think its gonna be faster then what every1 is expecting them to be but if im wrong....oh well.
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I actually read this month's car & driver. There was a sentence in there where they said that it was a bit dissapointing that the 04' is doing 6.4, compared to the previous maxima (02') which was doing a flat 6. They also said that it would have been a "best contender" if it wasn't for the torque steer. I mean if Audi and Saab could take care of it, what is keeping back Nissan from doing the same?
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Originally posted by Maxim99
I actually read this month's car & driver. There was a sentence in there where they said that it was a bit dissappointing that the 04' is doing 6.4, compared to the previous maxima (02') which was doing a flat 6. They also said that it would have been a "best contender" if it wasn't for the torque steer. I mean if Audi and Saab could take care of it, what is keeping back Nissan from doing the same?
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