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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 05:10 PM
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As promised...pics after using the PC...

I think it turned out rather nice....

More pics on page 5 of my homepage.

Damn...I tried to post a pic here in the thread, but was unsuccessful...not sure why...


Old Jun 24, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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I thought it was suppose to be [/IMG]?
Old Jun 24, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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I fixed it .
Old Jun 24, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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I fixed it .
Thanks Prinz

Now I just gotta figure out how to do it myself!!
Old Jun 24, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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<will ferrell as alex trebec>
"simply stunning"
How long did that take, I wouldnt mind seing the before pictures too. My Majestic Blue is a pain to keep clean. Is that Klasse you used? How many coats?
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by Pinnacle
&lt;will ferrell as alex trebec&gt;
&quot;simply stunning&quot;
How long did that take, I wouldnt mind seing the before pictures too. My Majestic Blue is a pain to keep clean. Is that Klasse you used? How many coats?
The pics in your sig look pretty damn good!!

Some before pics are on the first 3 pages of my home page. For those pics I used Klasse AIO and SG applied by hand late last Fall.

For the new pics,(page 5) I used Menzerna(sp?) Final Polish, then Klasse AIO, then Klasse SG all applied with the PC. The final polish really did the most...added more depth to the finish. I removed/buffed all the products by hand. (there is a polish removal pad for the PC, but I haven't tried that yet) It took about 7-8 hours total, not including the 'overnight' wait to remove the SG. I'll probably add another layer of SG this weekend......
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 06:39 AM
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YEAAAA gotta love the Klasse. I applied mine by hand and was still very satisfied by the results.

You're cars looks awesome man, gotta keep up the good work and keep breaking peoples necks.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 06:47 AM
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looks damn sweet! where can I buy this PC and for how much $$$ ??
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by NT2SHBBY
looks damn sweet! where can I buy this PC and for how much $$$ ??
This is where I got mine.....

http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/S...7e2+1052713504

$119 plus shipping ($128 total, IIRC) It includes the Hook and Loop backing pad and heavier counterweight.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 06:58 AM
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This is where I got mine.....

http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/S...7e2+1052713504

$119 plus shipping ($128 total, IIRC) It includes the Hook and Loop backing pad and heavier counterweight.
for $130, I'll stick to handwax....
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 07:17 AM
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Hey Tom,
Checked out your home page too. That finish is sweet now. After seeing the results I may have to spring for one of those. My car needs machine applied Menzerna bad.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 07:23 AM
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Hey Tom,
Checked out your home page too. That finish is sweet now. After seeing the results I may have to spring for one of those. My car needs machine applied Menzerna bad.
Mine's for rent.....




















j/k....you can try mine. I bet you'll want one!!!!!
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by Bluesbrekr


Mine's for rent.....




j/k....you can try mine. I bet you'll want one!!!!!
OK I'll try it.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by Bluesbrekr


This is where I got mine.....

http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/S...7e2+1052713504

$119 plus shipping ($128 total, IIRC) It includes the Hook and Loop backing pad and heavier counterweight.
...but if you have a Lowe's in the area, you can get it for $109 and no shipping.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 09:26 AM
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Re: As promised...pics after using the PC...

Originally posted by Bluesbrekr
I think it turned out rather nice....

More pics on page 5 of my homepage.

Damn...I tried to post a pic here in the thread, but was unsuccessful...not sure why...


It looks beautiful. Did you just polish? I need to do all the steps for both my cars.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by PrinzII


...but if you have a Lowe's in the area, you can get it for $109 and no shipping.
Does that include the hook and loop backing pad and heavier counterweight?
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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Re: Re: As promised...pics after using the PC...

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It looks beautiful. Did you just polish? I need to do all the steps for both my cars.

Thanks Deezo. I clay bared a few weeks ago. This past weekend I used Menzerna Final Polish, then AIO, then SG. Then I took the pics.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Bluesbrekr

Does that include the hook and loop backing pad and heavier counterweight?
Counterweight yes, velcro backing plate no. They sell the 7336 model. You'd probably need to get velcro pads anyway so people usually end up getting the backing plate with the pads. Meguiar's makes one, and pretty much any online detailing store that sells pads has the plate too.

Still, either Coastal or Lowes are great deals, depending on what plans you have. Some people like the lighter counterweight (you get both with Coastal) for using the smaller accessories.


BTW, nice job on your car.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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What is the deal with Menzerna? This is the first Ive heard about it...
Doesnt seem to hurt though
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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Thanks, Bman. There is no Lowes anywhere near me, so Coastal was the way to go.

Pinnacle-Menzerna is a German polish. There are 2 grades. I used the least abrasive one because my paint was in pretty good shape. I got it from:

http://www.properautocare.com/
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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bro, it looks amazing!!! congrats on the job, I nominate you car for the second hottest detailed black max ; )... just kidding. Your car is gorgeous, keep up the good work.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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btw, i did my car this way, intensive polish, then fine polish... my boy told me to do it that way, and it came out great. I'm confused, you only used intensive polish? Your car looks amazing regardless... I thought the final polish really added the shine to my car.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by mjg
btw, i did my car this way, intensive polish, then fine polish... my boy told me to do it that way, and it came out great. I'm confused, you only used intensive polish? Your car looks amazing regardless... I thought the final polish really added the shine to my car.
Here's what I did....clay bar a few weeks ago. Then last weekend I washed the car (of course) then used only the Menzerna Fine Polish (yup, this is where the shine and depth came from) then Klasse AIO and finally Klasse SG. I didn't use the Intensive Polish, because I didn't have any bad scratches.

Thanks for the props in your previous post...btw I wonder who was nominated for the 'first' hottest detailed black Max ???
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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you used the 7424 or the 7428???
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Pinnacle
you used the 7424 or the 7428???
I have the 7424.

What's the 7428?
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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7428 is the mother of all polishers - its the one that will take your paint clear off if you're not paying attention - or not skilled.
glad to hear you were able to get your finish with the 7424, whew! Makes me want to go get one now and see the results.

http://www.cardomain.com/id/pinnacle - here is a link to pics of my car, cant see the chips in the hood since they werent there yet. Ill try to get some pics tomorrow and post them. I hit something going extremely fast and it chunked portions of my paint. Its frustrating putting so much effort into a car and have that happen.

Anyway, the 7428 is around 250.00 if you want to check them out.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by Pinnacle
7428 is the mother of all polishers - its the one that will take your paint clear off if you're not paying attention - or not skilled.
glad to hear you were able to get your finish with the 7424, whew! Makes me want to go get one now and see the results.

- here is a link to pics of my car, cant see the chips in the hood since they werent there yet. Ill try to get some pics tomorrow and post them. I hit something going extremely fast and it chunked portions of my paint. Its frustrating putting so much effort into a car and have that happen.

Anyway, the 7428 is around 250.00 if you want to check them out.
Link doesn't work (red X)

The 7428 sounds to risky for me!! Is it orbital like the 7424?
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 07:18 PM
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thanks for pointing my link out - try it now

It is not orbital from what I understand, it is strictly circular and builds up friction quickly. Instead of placing the entire pad on the paint surface, you have to lift one edge up just a bit, to reduce the friction and keep your paint. If the 7424 works - and you're one of the many people who prove that it does - forget I ever mentioned the 7428, unless you know someone that works it like magic and can teach you.
Old Jun 25, 2003 | 10:42 PM
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The 7428 is Porter Cable's rotary polisher, also called high-speed or circular polishers. Other companies such as Makita, De Walt and Milwaukee (sp?) also make them. Much more powerful but at the same time much more dangerous to use. This type of machine is why "machine polishing" automatically scares people.

Ever see a car on the road that looks detailed but you see this strange, wavy "hologram" effect all over the side? That is because some stupid grease monkey hack moron etc etc not trained to use a rotary polisher properly has butchered the paint. A rotary just sits in place and spins, creating a lot of heat and friction - this is why it can work magic. It's also why it's a weapon in unskilled hands. Unfortunately using this machine is really common in the industry and pretty much used exclusively by detailing shops but not all of them are good with it. That's why a lot of old fashioned hardcore enthusiasts shun using machines to do anything. As said, you need a lot of practice and good instruction to become "good" at using such a machine. Random orbitals like the 7424, as you know, are really safe to use and easy to learn in contrast, making them the perfect polishing machine for weekend warriors like the rest of us.
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 02:29 AM
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Pinnacle- your Max looks good! I was thinking the 7428 was probably a rotary unit. I wouldn't want to get that anywhere near my paint!!

Bman- You have Milwaukee spelled right...I live 80 miles north of there....they make some great quality tools....maybe they should develop a random orbital polisher like the 7424??!! Yeah, it's too bad some people think any electric polisher would be dangerous. The 7424 is really easy to use and safe...even for a first time user, like me!
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It's recommended that people starting out should by a Random Orbital and those who are very experienced by the rotory.
Old Jun 26, 2003 | 03:49 PM
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i want the rotary, but ill practice on a neighbors car at night first if it looks good in the morning, Ill try mine...
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