4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999) Visit the 4th Generation forum to ask specific questions or find out more about the 4th Generation Maxima.

Put my modified stock intake back in, cleaned MAF sensor & TB

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 06:05 PM
  #1  
njmaxseltd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member who somehow became The President of The SE-L Club
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 16,024
Put my modified stock intake back in, cleaned MAF sensor & TB

I was running an Injen for the past few months. It's a great looking intake with an awsome roar. Sound I really don't need so I decided to put my modified stock intake back on the car. The mod to my stock intake is the opening of the lower resonator box, under the battery tray for another source of air. The most restrictive part of the stock intake I believe is the scoup section.

While I had everything apart I cleaned the TB, it really wasn't dirty, it had be done about 3 or 4 months ago. I also decided to clean the MAF sensor. I sprayed the intake air cleaner onto the sensor and screen and wiped down the side walls. I never touched the sensor, only sprayed it clean.

I'm not sure if it's the stock intake or the cleaning of the MAF, but my low end accelleration made a nice come back. I had read a thread a while back where somebody else reporting better power in the low end after a MAF cleaning as well.

Next time you have your intake out to clean your throttle body, give the MAF sensor a blast of cleaner as well. You might be pleasently suprised.

If anybody would like an Injen, please visit this thread.
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 07:56 PM
  #2  
joew's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,272
what kind of cleaner? alcohol?
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 08:35 PM
  #3  
Dave B's Avatar
Not DAVEB the parts guy
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,549
Re: Put my modified stock intake back in, cleaned MAF sensor & TB

Originally posted by njmaxseltd
so I decided to put my modified stock intake back on the car.
This is why you lowend came back. I bet your tip-in acceleration feels stronger too? I think the 4th gen intake just needs a little tweaking to perform. Hybrids and POP intakes seem to make around the town driveability a bit annoying (lack of initial acceleration, very noisy, heat issues) plus I haven't seen any measureable difference on the dyno or at the track between a modified stock intake and a hybrid.


Dave
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 04:07 AM
  #4  
njmaxseltd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member who somehow became The President of The SE-L Club
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 16,024
I agree with you Dave. I think just giving the stock setup another source of air, (not by hacking the air box) like I did with the resonator box really is the best of both worlds. You don't lose any tip-in accelleration, as you call it, and you get maybe a slight edge up top. The car definately feels smoother overall.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 06:05 AM
  #5  
Dave B's Avatar
Not DAVEB the parts guy
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,549
Originally posted by njmaxseltd
I agree with you Dave. I think just giving the stock setup another source of air, (not by hacking the air box) like I did with the resonator box really is the best of both worlds. You don't lose any tip-in accelleration, as you call it, and you get maybe a slight edge up top. The car definately feels smoother overall.
Even with my hacked airbox, the motor feels significantly smoother at every single rpm. When I've sealed my airbox and run your kind of setup it's even smoother, I wonder why that is. The aftermarket intakes make the VQ a bit buzzy. It's still really smooth with a aftermarket intake, but with the hacked/OSCAI it's like glass.


Dave
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 07:12 AM
  #6  
mzmtg's Avatar
Minister of Silly Walks
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 13,772
I only run an open intake when it's cold out. It gets so hot and humid here that it just kills your power. I run OSCAI in the summer and a cone filter in the winter.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 07:43 AM
  #7  
Anachronism's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,362
I am also back to (completely) stock intake w/K&N panel filter and it seems better all around than my other intakes. I am debating whether to mod the stock intake in any way. I was getting tired of the intake noise but I forgot how quite the stock intake is, I feel like I am driving an electric car

Your setup sounds like a more conservative version of the OSCAI. With this setup it seems to me that you would have the two air sources coming straight at each other causing turbulance, I don't know if this would matter though. I wonder if the lower resonator box is also there to intercept some of the dirt that comes in with the intake air.

The scoop opening looks way to small to me but they way the stock intake works so well I am starting to wonder if the engineers at Nissan did this on purpose for some reason.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 12:24 PM
  #8  
99MAX's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 60
NJ, how did you modify your stock air box, i saw the 1 member say you did not hack the box so exactly what did you do???
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 06:55 PM
  #9  
njmaxseltd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member who somehow became The President of The SE-L Club
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 16,024
Originally posted by 99MAX
NJ, how did you modify your stock air box, i saw the 1 member say you did not hack the box so exactly what did you do???
Look under your batter tray, theres a sealed resonator box under there. Take it out, you have to remove most of the stock piping to get at it. Open up the back of it by drilling holes in it. Make swiss cheese out of it with a 3/4 inch drill bit. You wind up with another source of air for the stock piping. It does not increase noise at all and I feel it allows the engine to breath just a little better when you get on it.

There are no negative effects at all with this mod and nobody will ever know anything was done to your car. You can't see or hear it.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 07:21 PM
  #10  
nismos14's Avatar
§è~® f®ÈÄk
iTrader: (56)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 17,505
From: NJ
when u initially swiss cheesed it do you believe that you gained some power? or did it feel the same as stock?
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 01:08 AM
  #11  
ardika's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 994
Tom,

I don't quite understand what you mean by "open up the back of it by drilling holes in it". Do you mean the top part that faces the battery tray, or would it be the front part (facing the front/headlamps/front bumper)?

Could you elaborate just a little bit more, please?

Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
Look under your batter tray, theres a sealed resonator box under there. Take it out, you have to remove most of the stock piping to get at it. Open up the back of it by drilling holes in it. Make swiss cheese out of it with a 3/4 inch drill bit. You wind up with another source of air for the stock piping. It does not increase noise at all and I feel it allows the engine to breath just a little better when you get on it.

There are no negative effects at all with this mod and nobody will ever know anything was done to your car. You can't see or hear it.
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 01:37 AM
  #12  
Nismo's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 8,749
From: CA
back to the MAF spray, did you just use the CRC air intake cleaner? or what exactly did you use? I might give it a try but dont want to break my MAF from wrong spray.
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 05:28 AM
  #13  
mzmtg's Avatar
Minister of Silly Walks
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 13,772
Originally Posted by Nismo
back to the MAF spray, did you just use the CRC air intake cleaner? or what exactly did you use? I might give it a try but dont want to break my MAF from wrong spray.
I cleaned mine with rubbing alcohol and a q-tip.
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 06:24 AM
  #14  
ohannon7's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,764
Just straight up rubbing alchohol or did you dilute it at all? Im gonna clear my real soon, and the TB too. Cant wait to see if theres a diff.
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 07:29 AM
  #15  
njmaxseltd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member who somehow became The President of The SE-L Club
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 16,024
ardika - By the back I'm refering to the side that faces twards the fender. Directly opposite of the hole for the tube from the intake system.
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:09 PM
  #16  
endus's Avatar
An atavistic endeavor...
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,209
Originally Posted by mzmtg
I only run an open intake when it's cold out. It gets so hot and humid here that it just kills your power. I run OSCAI in the summer and a cone filter in the winter.
This is the absolute truth. Now that the weather is cooling down again I can feel the power coming back with the Frankencar. The car is doing that insane pull from 65-110 that I remember from when I first put it in last spring. HAI's will definitely make you slow when it's hot and/or humid. When the temperature dropped this weekend after weeks of hot/humid weather I literally could not believe how much faster the car was.

I think I might start doing what you do...HAI in winter, OSCAI or njmaxseltd's intake mod during the summer. I hadn't heard about swiss cheesing the resonator, so thanks for that njmaxseltd.

I dunno. I need to put the other half of my stock airbox back in and see what's what. I'm wondering if there might even be another way to get air from somewhere higher up in the front or maybe some way of coupling the stock intake with another hose and attaching those to the stock airbox while eliminating all the twists and turns in the stock one. I like the idea of the OSCAI, but there must be a better place to mount it.
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 01:04 PM
  #17  
Entropy's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 431
From: Lakeland, FL
Disclaimer: I have zero familiarity with the resonator on the Max... so I could be talking out my wazoo here.

There are two resonators on my '95 Nissan Hardbody with the V6. I have removed one and I will eventually get around to removing the other one (down in the fender wall). Many people have done this modification/removal with no problems.

Is there a reason that you couldn't just remove the resonator on the Maxima?
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 01:36 PM
  #18  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
i used strait rubbing alcahol on mine and let it dry. it got low end back, especialy from 1.5-3.
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 01:38 PM
  #19  
Street Reeper's Avatar
Handsome
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,074
The biggest limitation to the stock intake is the air box inlet. The inlet from the snorkel is smaller than the outlet going to the throttle body. No matter how much extra air you feed the stock snorkel it will not be able to match what the throttle body is capable of sucking in (because of the size difference.)

The hacked air box is very efficient in matching what the outlet to the throttle body can suck in. You can still have it suck in cooler air by aiming it away from the engine, this is how I did mine before I went with the JWT intake. I pointed it so that it was away from the engine and would hopefully draw in some air circulating around the hood.

Old Sep 2, 2003 | 02:17 PM
  #20  
ohannon7's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,764
instructions

Ok, can someone please tell me exactly how to clean the TB and MAF, or give me a link or something. I dont feel like messin sumptin up
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 02:49 PM
  #21  
venompwr2's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,434
From: Buffalo, NY
Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
Look under your batter tray, theres a sealed resonator box under there. Take it out, you have to remove most of the stock piping to get at it. Open up the back of it by drilling holes in it. Make swiss cheese out of it with a 3/4 inch drill bit. You wind up with another source of air for the stock piping. It does not increase noise at all and I feel it allows the engine to breath just a little better when you get on it.

There are no negative effects at all with this mod and nobody will ever know anything was done to your car. You can't see or hear it.
i have a hybrid, but still dont understand this hacked airbox thing, the one pic above i understand, but are you saying to make holes in the box underneath the battery? why not just remove it all together? I did this to my moms maxima, and it didnt have any effect good or bad on it.
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 02:51 PM
  #22  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php has the tb cleaning
to clean maf just put a few drops of rubbing alcahol on the sensor
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 07:53 AM
  #23  
ohannon7's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,764
ok thanks kevlo
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 10:18 AM
  #24  
ne max's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 301
Hi njmaxseltd, just last week i removed the tube coming from the intake scoop to the resonator box under the battery. So now there is the scoop + the hole in that tube that takes air going though the radiator to take in air and i feel like its given me more power and smoothness, although the engine is a little louder. It seemed like a pretty simple way to modify the stock airbox, but does anyone see any particular reason why this would be less effective or even harmful than swiss cheezing the resonator box?


Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
Look under your batter tray, theres a sealed resonator box under there. Take it out, you have to remove most of the stock piping to get at it. Open up the back of it by drilling holes in it. Make swiss cheese out of it with a 3/4 inch drill bit. You wind up with another source of air for the stock piping. It does not increase noise at all and I feel it allows the engine to breath just a little better when you get on it.

There are no negative effects at all with this mod and nobody will ever know anything was done to your car. You can't see or hear it.
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 10:23 AM
  #25  
SuperFishstick's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 662
time to clean my MAF. SO u say rubbing alcohol and a cue tip?
Old Oct 3, 2003 | 10:43 AM
  #26  
ardika's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 994
Excellent

This is interesting since I also did the swiss cheesing my collector last week. After two weekends, knock sensor is replaced (no bleeding) and torqued to 18 lbs, changed starter (intermittent no crank problem) with a new unit, cleaned TB and MAF, reconditioned electrical connections with dielectric grease and changed mid-pipe w/Stillen with stock resonator and swiss cheesing the box underneath battery tray.

Now the car pulls really good and I could hear the "rush" of air through that box. It's like a hiss, but not terrible hiss at that.

Originally Posted by ne max
Hi njmaxseltd, just last week i removed the tube coming from the intake scoop to the resonator box under the battery. So now there is the scoop + the hole in that tube that takes air going though the radiator to take in air and i feel like its given me more power and smoothness, although the engine is a little louder. It seemed like a pretty simple way to modify the stock airbox, but does anyone see any particular reason why this would be less effective or even harmful than swiss cheezing the resonator box?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
vingodine
5th Generation Classifieds (2000-2003)
45
May 21, 2016 12:46 PM
vanebecker
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
7
Aug 19, 2015 09:45 AM
sc10692
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
0
Aug 9, 2015 09:37 AM
ramtin325i
6th Generation Classifieds (2004-2008)
1
Aug 8, 2015 05:13 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:59 AM.