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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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Stereo dilemma! Your 2 cents appreciated..

Recommendations wanted! Recently replaced my Bose Head under warranty after it went kapoot. I currently have stock system with Infinity Basslink Sub and Polk 3500 EX Tweeters. I was pretty happy. Problem you ask? Yeah, the volume is totally weak now. The Svc. Manager at Nissan seemed to think that replacement heads are " governed " for warranty replacement from the factory, no adjustment. What the ...?! Hmmmm, thats a first, but possible. Anyway, the bottom line is, the volume just isn't cutting it now. So what would you do? Do I just go ahead and replace with an alternative, non-Bose head?? But I want more POWER! I would prefer just to keep the head and put in a serious " amp ", but don't know if I can do that since the speakers each have a built in amp already. Obviously I am not an audiophile... I do not know the specific problems I might run into because this a " frickin " Bose Proprietarty system, speakers, et al. OK, your in my shoes, what do you do? I dont want to put out big bucks, just big volume.
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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IMO Bose aka Blows is gonna keep givin u problems. If you take away one part of the Bose system u screw up the entire thing because its 1 ohm. Basically, get a new head unit and 4 new speakers is my recommendation, which if u go ebay can cost as little as like $400.

The bose system does not have preouts, so you would have to use either a high-low converter (converts speaker wire to RCA cable) or high-level input on the amp to power it, but if you did this youd need new speakers anyway because as i said, bose speakers are 1 ohm. So u might as well just put your money towards a good head unit.

Im over in Palm Harbor, a 30 min drive from you, so if you do decide to do anything and need help hooking it up or have wiring questions, im 30 min away.

You can hit me up on AIM at kpr10is or stop by the Clearwater Circuit City where I work, selling car audio.

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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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PS--some good head units to look at--Alpine, Pioneer, Eclipse, Clarion

Im a big Alpine fan but Ill be switching to an Eclipse head unit soon for the 8 volt preouts.
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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if ur not an audiophile like me, u can get away with buying new speakers and a head unit for about 275 bux (blaupunkt san jose, infinity reference, infinity kappas)

u will want to eventually get an amp tho
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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Very True!

Originally Posted by KashThaRipper
edit: double post..
Heres the Deal with the setup go ahead and take a gander in your trunk if you have an amp hanging from the top deck not to worry each speaker dosent have its own amp but like my man from Circuit City Said its only 1 ohm which licks culo. I say go ahead get the hook up from the man at Circuit city and get the Audiobahn 400*4 amp with Polk DB speakers and get an Alpine head unit with front and rear RCA out puts and your golden. Use that basslink sub and your all set. a banging set up for good money. That is if he graces you with his employee discount that is which would mean the amp would cost you $150, the front component DB6500 would cost you $95, the rear 2ways would run you $50 and the Alpine reciever would ru you about $200. Great sound for not that bad of a price.

PS: kpr10is did the employee price go up like it did down here before christmas or was that just in the Walker Region?
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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First I want to say I am not an audio buf, so I am not as sensitve too quality and detail, but I have a BOSE HU in my 2k max. I added an audiolink PD4, which ads 2 sets of preouts and plugs inline with the factory wiring harness. website is linkmeup.com cost $150. I had a 5 channel amp driving all stock speakers and a kiker comp vr sub. Now I am running alpine 4 channel and a mono sub amp with a type R sub. I still have all stock speakers which are run by the 4 channel amp, with no problems. This setup has worked great for me. The stock speakers are standing on there last leg though. That is my next upgrade. That is my .02 , good luck
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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check out the millions of threads on related subjects in the Car Audio/video forum....it will save alot of bandwidth!
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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Was the bass link and tweeters installed after the replacement head unit was installed?
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 05:17 AM
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No, I have had the Basslink and tweeters since day one, because stock just sucked so bad. Anyway, thanks to everybody for their input. I like what I hear, but of course... Here comes the wallet. I'll probably hook up with my man over at Circuit City to get back these tunes back on track.
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 05:41 AM
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replace it all....just as I did and yeah its costly but speakers are transferable into any car you get in the future....

I am quite happy with my system, just spend a lil extra and go for some quality components with a nice amp and sub...

btw dump that basslink-its garbage
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by kpr10is
IMO Bose aka Blows is gonna keep givin u problems. If you take away one part of the Bose system u screw up the entire thing because its 1 ohm. Basically, get a new head unit and 4 new speakers is my recommendation, which if u go ebay can cost as little as like $400.

The bose system does not have preouts, so you would have to use either a high-low converter (converts speaker wire to RCA cable) or high-level input on the amp to power it, but if you did this youd need new speakers anyway because as i said, bose speakers are 1 ohm. So u might as well just put your money towards a good head unit.

Im over in Palm Harbor, a 30 min drive from you, so if you do decide to do anything and need help hooking it up or have wiring questions, im 30 min away.

You can hit me up on AIM at kpr10is or stop by the Clearwater Circuit City where I work, selling car audio.

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To change the headunit an adaptor is not needed. Just a spare set of cheap RCAs. Splice to the factory speaker leads and plug into the HU preouts.Simple.Cheap.Done.

5th gen Blose does not have amps on each speaker.

Impedance level of the factory speakers is irrelevant when changing the HU.

--Don
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kpr10is
IMO Bose aka Blows is gonna keep givin u problems. If you take away one part of the Bose system u screw up the entire thing because its 1 ohm. Basically, get a new head unit and 4 new speakers is my recommendation, which if u go ebay can cost as little as like $400.

The bose system does not have preouts, so you would have to use either a high-low converter (converts speaker wire to RCA cable) or high-level input on the amp to power it, but if you did this youd need new speakers anyway because as i said, bose speakers are 1 ohm. So u might as well just put your money towards a good head unit.

Im over in Palm Harbor, a 30 min drive from you, so if you do decide to do anything and need help hooking it up or have wiring questions, im 30 min away.

You can hit me up on AIM at kpr10is or stop by the Clearwater Circuit City where I work, selling car audio.

-Kevin
Appreciated Kevin... I'll try to get over there within a couple weeks. I'll call to make sure your there. I like Alpine as well... Any chance I can get in on your discount, or is that pushing the envelope? Whats the phone # over there? Thanks
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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i would recommend JL VR or XR series speakers, eclipse or alpine HU and an MTX amp to power them. that setup would probably be a little over $400 if you ordered from ebay, but would be well worth the money.
Old Apr 1, 2004 | 06:04 AM
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get some stuff stright.95 se has amps on all speakers. the change the head unint and keep factory speakers u do need an adapeter. or else the sperakers will work very funny.all treble and more treble where the bass is supposed to be. the adapter can be found at walmart of $18. Lastly the most important thing is to get a pioneer cd player. no the low end ones either. get one for close to 200 so that it has sfeq ( i think). not cd player lets u customize the sound like a pioneer. u can adjust the frequencies directly. not like an eq. put all treble up front and all bass in the back. and when u adjust the two they only adjust the proper speaker set. so when i up my bass my tweeters don't distort. all in the head unit. they are the greatist
Old Apr 1, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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get some stuff stright.95 se has amps on all speakers. the change the head unint and keep factory speakers u do need an adapeter. or else the sperakers will work very funny.all treble and more treble where the bass is supposed to be. the adapter can be found at walmart of $18. Lastly the most important thing is to get a pioneer cd player. no the low end ones either. get one for close to 200 so that it has sfeq ( i think). not cd player lets u customize the sound like a pioneer. u can adjust the frequencies directly. not like an eq. put all treble up front and all bass in the back. and when u adjust the two they only adjust the proper speaker set. so when i up my bass my tweeters don't distort. all in the head unit. they are the greatist

Yes we should get "some stuff straight". First of all the poster of this has a 2002 not a 95 so it does not have amps on all speakers. Second the "Adaptor" that your referring to is a Highlevel or LOC convertor, which shouldnt be used with Bose. The post that I made about directly connecting to preouts works perfectly and has been proven many times over. Third the headunit that use does not matter which brand, they all have simliar features with different names. SFEQ just happens to be Pioneers name. The term "greatest" is up for opinion as everyone has different tastes.

Please dont advise people of what they "Need" to get if you are not completely familiar with the situation.

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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by thekenone
get some stuff stright.95 se has amps on all speakers. the change the head unint and keep factory speakers u do need an adapeter. or else the sperakers will work very funny.all treble and more treble where the bass is supposed to be. the adapter can be found at walmart of $18. Lastly the most important thing is to get a pioneer cd player. no the low end ones either. get one for close to 200 so that it has sfeq ( i think). not cd player lets u customize the sound like a pioneer. u can adjust the frequencies directly. not like an eq. put all treble up front and all bass in the back. and when u adjust the two they only adjust the proper speaker set. so when i up my bass my tweeters don't distort. all in the head unit. they are the greatist
wtf are you smoking?!?!

it seems to be some good quality ****, do you have any for sale? if so, how much?

dude, your grammar is all over the place. why would anyone take you seriously? im sorry man...Don is correct...explain your "treble where the bass is supposed to be" theory..i'd love to hear it


im sorry man, but u dont seem to know much at all about electronics...u sound like an MECP certified installer...

.....i guess the pioneer would be better than eclipse?
Old Apr 1, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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omfg i don't belive u guys. if i knew i was typing a report for school and need to spell check and grammer check this i would have used word and copy pasted it in here. everyone who has every heard a car radio with subwoofers knows that the treble (higher frequency sound) should come mainly from the front 2 speakers, if u have 4 fron't speakers 2 doors 2 tweeters then that is where your treble should come from. and the bass is located in the rear; the deck speakers and the subwoofers. if u can't understand that then i probably would look like a fool to you. correct me if i am wrong but you don't was bass coming out of tweeter right? the pioneer has fron image inhancing which will make all treble adjustments only effect the front speakers and the bass adjustments for the rear speakers. i didn't pay attention to what year car he had so i will admit to being wrong there i thought i saw 4 gen somewhere in there. the amplifier adapter is prefectly safe. it allows intergration of the head unit to the factory amps. whatever your opiniion of it, it works. and well. the bose speakers with their amps kicks major a**. i can turn my stereo up really high w/o any distortion which is why i suggested it. i have done many stereo setups and no get as loud as my max even with aftermarket speaker (not amped of course). so please if u don't understand just ask don't berate me.
Old Apr 1, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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omfg i don't belive u guys. if i knew i was typing a report for school and need to spell check and grammer check this i would have used word and copy pasted it in here. everyone who has every heard a car radio with subwoofers knows that the treble (higher frequency sound) should come mainly from the front 2 speakers, if u have 4 fron't speakers 2 doors 2 tweeters then that is where your treble should come from. and the bass is located in the rear; the deck speakers and the subwoofers. if u can't understand that then i probably would look like a fool to you. correct me if i am wrong but you don't was bass coming out of tweeter right? the pioneer has fron image inhancing which will make all treble adjustments only effect the front speakers and the bass adjustments for the rear speakers. i didn't pay attention to what year car he had so i will admit to being wrong there i thought i saw 4 gen somewhere in there. the amplifier adapter is prefectly safe. it allows intergration of the head unit to the factory amps. whatever your opiniion of it, it works. and well. the bose speakers with their amps kicks major a**. i can turn my stereo up really high w/o any distortion which is why i suggested it. i have done many stereo setups and no get as loud as my max even with aftermarket speaker (not amped of course). so please if u don't understand just ask don't berate me.
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anyone that knows car audio knows that the more bass u can get up front the better...this is y competition vehicles mainly only use front speakers...the subs are in the trunk because there is no room for them in the front (although there are competition vehicles that have subs up front)....ur sound stage is seriously lacking depth and clarity if u only adjust for treble up front and bass in the rear...and there is a huge difference between loudness, and depth and clarity...the reason why the pioneer unit is setup like that is for people like urself..most aftermarket speakers (inexpensive) lack in the midbass region...so the idea with the pioneer unit is to high pass frequencies that are upper midbass or higher to the front, and more midbass in the reaer since rear speaker are usually able to handle more bass since they are larger. please do not post in this forum if you don't know what you are talking about....no one cares who has the loudest system that uses a headunit's internal amp...that's just retarded.

Old Apr 3, 2004 | 04:38 AM
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thekenone....where is your response?
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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well i think i will try to get u a vid with sound of my audio system so u can see what i am talking about. cause we must not be on the same page on something. plus i think everyone would care how loud a factory system would get with a new hu, because if my system (w/o 4 new speakers, w/o rewireing all the speakers, w/o buying a 4 channel amp) can get lounder or even close to a redone system then why bother?. also u will not have clarity with excessive bass from all speakers. have u ever heard of surround sound? all speakers are virtually free from bass except the subwoofers. that is the best soundscape. your car should duplicate it. but belive me the steup i suggested sound superb. i have not heard anyone on the street sounding better. normally too much bass or to many highs. and my last note is if u disagree with someone there isn't a need to go disrespect someone like u did. i would like to belive that you're over the age of 12. thus the reason why i haven't talked about you or called you names.
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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well i think i will try to get u a vid with sound of my audio system so u can see what i am talking about. cause we must not be on the same page on something. plus i think everyone would care how loud a factory system would get with a new hu, because if my system (w/o 4 new speakers, w/o rewireing all the speakers, w/o buying a 4 channel amp) can get lounder or even close to a redone system then why bother?. also u will not have clarity with excessive bass from all speakers. have u ever heard of surround sound? all speakers are virtually free from bass except the subwoofers. that is the best soundscape. your car should duplicate it. but belive me the steup i suggested sound superb. i have not heard anyone on the street sounding better. normally too much bass or to many highs. and my last note is if u disagree with someone there isn't a need to go disrespect someone like u did. i would like to belive that you're over the age of 12. thus the reason why i haven't talked about you or called you names.
im using polo's account

surround sound is for movies, totally different my friend. i never ever said that bass should come from every speaker!!!! damn you need to get out more....go to a competition and look and hear setups...you are totally wrong with your assumptions. im an electrical engineering student u damn jack@***, i know a lot more about this than you..leave it be my friend
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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you honestly think that your stock speakers with a new head unit sounds better than totally upgraded aftermarket systems? you base this on what you have heard? apparently you haven't heard much...maybe you should explain your theory on soundstage to high end manufacturers such as Diamond Audio who make components with a special output for rear fill (output which is decreased 10 dB from the front sound stage)...maybe they will change based on your empty theory..but i doubt it when you go to a concert the band and speakers are in front of you..when you go to a movie there is surround sound so get that part straight...i'm finished discussing this....later

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